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Administering of contaminated blood products - was it genocide?

  • 12-06-2019 4:05pm
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    political analyst
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    I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


    Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?


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    corner of hells
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    political analyst wrote: »
    I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


    Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?

    For the sake of the thread, I'm going to say yes , yes it would.

    P.S. in reality, I agree with Srameen.


  • #5
    _Brian
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    political analyst wrote: »
    I remember the Lindsay Tribunal that investigated the administering of contaminated blood products in this country. The horror unfolded worldwide. A similar inquiry in the UK is ongoing.


    Would the infection of people - especially, but not confined to, haemophiliacs - by the administering of these products be regarded under international law as genocide?

    No


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    The Princess Bride
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?

    Yes.


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  • #7
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    The Princess Bride wrote: »
    Yes.

    That’s good. That’s really good. People could have undiagnosed serious diseases and I knew some tests were done but didn’t know if inflammation was checked for.


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    political analyst
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    Zackary Creamy Nitwit wrote: »
    As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.


    Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?


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    Grayson
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    That’s good. That’s really good. People could have undiagnosed serious diseases and I knew some tests were done but didn’t know if inflammation was checked for.

    I don't think people are ever told. they just don't use the blood.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Grayson wrote: »
    I don't think people are ever told. they just don't use the blood.

    I wasn’t saying they were. I simply meant that it’s good that those blood products aren’t used.


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    Sardonicat
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    political analyst wrote: »
    Zackary Creamy Nitwit wrote: »
    As genocide is the deliberate killing of a large group of people, especially those of a particular nation or ethnic group, then no it would not be considered genocide.


    Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?
    They weren't knowingly infected.


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    Capt'n Midnight
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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »
    Can I ask, are blood donations tested for signs of abnormal inflammation in the body somewhere?
    Kuru is a human disease that can have an incubation time of 56 years or more.

    And you can't store blood for that long.

    vCJD as in Mad Cow Disease is in the same class, so there could be other diseases out there we don't know to test for. Which is why it's so important to screen donor.


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    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    Kuru is a human disease that can have an incubation time of 56 years or more.

    And you can't store blood for that long.

    vCJD as in Mad Cow Disease is in the same class, so there could be other diseases out there we don't know to test for. Which is why it's so important to screen donor.

    Kuru is very rare, since people have pretty much stopped eating each other. Nearly non-existent, I should think.


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    ytpe2r5bxkn0c1
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    political analyst wrote: »
    Haemophiliacs constitute a large group of people with a genetic disorder - so how can knowingly letting them be infected via blood products not be genocide?

    And deliberately killed??


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    political analyst
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    Zackary Creamy Nitwit wrote: »
    And deliberately killed??


    Isn't that what giving someone blood that you know is contaminated is?


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    ToddyDoody
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    The courts said no but I say yes.


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