Anc and Bps 2019

Attie Ross · 23-10-2019 9:09pm

whelan2 wrote: »

County executive meeting on Tuesday night. Will try and go

Whelan2
I'm in your part of the country just to let you know looked tonight at bank account and money in from 17/10.

whelan2 · 23-10-2019 9:19pm

Just looked at my application again and the plots that were showing last night as 0 claimed are now back correct. Hopefully it's being worked on. Will ring ifa in the morning

Attie Ross · 23-10-2019 9:24pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Just looked at my application again and the plots that were showing last night as 0 claimed are now back correct. Hopefully it's being worked on. Will ring ifa in the morning

Hopefully get it sorted soon.

whelan2 · 24-10-2019 10:18am

Spoke with ifa man. He wasn't aware there was a problem and will report it to higher up

wrangler · 24-10-2019 10:27am

whelan2 wrote: »

Spoke with ifa man. He wasn't aware there was a problem and will report it to higher up

Thanks, the dept seem to be telling you lies one after another.
There's no point in having a code of practise if the farmers themselves don't enforce it

whelan2 · 24-10-2019 10:45am

Under GDPR the ifa can not look up individual cases anymore. Rang teagasc too and there's supposed to be an update running today. Teagasc man meeting dept next week about it

Mortelaro · 24-10-2019 11:32am

whelan2 wrote: »

Under GDPR the ifa can not look up individual cases anymore. Rang teagasc too and there's supposed to be an update running today. Teagasc man meeting dept next week about it

Actually they can if they like Teagasc have your permission to act as your Agent
Theres a lot of jiggery pokery being hidden behind by people who either don't know what theyre doing ,don't care or both
And it's the farmer at the coal face of it getting pushed around

whelan2 · 24-10-2019 11:36am

I will ring the department tomorrow and see what the story is . Hopefully the update will have some effect.

Cran · 24-10-2019 11:38am

whelan2 wrote: »

I will ring the department tomorrow and see what the story is . Hopefully the update will have some effect.

I was told payment runs were suppose to go this week Tuesday & Thursday doesn't look like either happened

wrangler · 24-10-2019 12:26pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Under GDPR the ifa can not look up individual cases anymore. Rang teagasc too and there's supposed to be an update running today. Teagasc man meeting dept next week about it

The department can act the brat now no problem if they're protected by GDPR
I used to be able to get hardship cases paid in four or five days years ago.

Mad_maxx · 24-10-2019 1:16pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I will ring the department tomorrow and see what the story is . Hopefully the update will have some effect.

An uncle of mine ( who has farmed for fifty years) refers to the staff in portlaoise as " pompous mediocrities"

whelan2 · 24-10-2019 9:41pm

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Avns1s · 24-10-2019 10:04pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Waiting here anyway, neither bps or anc paid to date!

Cran · 24-10-2019 10:18pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Waiting here

Attie Ross · 24-10-2019 10:51pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Looked this evening on AGfood down for second payment of anc on 3/10.

anfieldrd · 24-10-2019 11:13pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Anc paid, waiting on BPS.

Sacrolyte · 25-10-2019 8:34am

Notin

whelan2 · 25-10-2019 9:46am

Was talking to a very helpful girl there now. I'm in for a satellite inspection. They are coming back on a daily basis. Ring again next Thursday. My dads dud dual claim is being removed and he will be in for payment. There is light at the end of the tunnel

grizzlyadams · 25-10-2019 11:16am

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Bps paid but no sign of anc

wrangler · 25-10-2019 12:15pm

grizzlyadams wrote: »

Bps paid but no sign of anc

Have you reached the minimum stocking rate yet.
and you must have stock on the land for at least 7mths
Even though payment is supposed to come in september, my neighbour doesn't get his money until his stock are on the land for seven full months which is mid november

Water John · 25-10-2019 1:51pm

Ok got maps today and an adjusted acerage. The parcels adjusted are rough land, not going to argue about it. I'm overdeclared by about 1.5%, in total.
What are the implications, other than a reduction?

whelan2 · 25-10-2019 2:05pm

Water John wrote: »

Ok got maps today and an adjusted acerage. The parcels adjusted are rough land, not going to argue about it. I'm overdeclared by about 1.5%, in total.
What are the implications, other than a reduction?

I assume you just accept it and then you get paid?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 25-10-2019 3:31pm

Water John wrote: »

Ok got maps today and an adjusted acerage. The parcels adjusted are rough land, not going to argue about it. I'm overdeclared by about 1.5%, in total.
What are the implications, other than a reduction?

If you have spare entitlements, make sure to claim them each year by deactivating different ones or you'll lose them, afaik.

whelan2 · 25-10-2019 5:57pm

My dads payment is now showing in payments due .

adne · 25-10-2019 8:39pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Are there many others still waiting their payment?

Nothing got here.. satellite inspection pending processing... bull****

anfieldrd · 26-10-2019 9:49am

Advisor rang Department yesterday, I should be paid next week but nothing up on Ag food yet. My application was just left sitting there is what they told him!!

whelan2 · 26-10-2019 10:20am

anfieldrd wrote: »

Advisor rang Department yesterday, I should be paid next week but nothing up on Ag food yet. My application was just left sitting there is what they told him!!

It's not good enough really is it?

wrangler · 26-10-2019 8:12pm

whelan2 wrote: »

It's not good enough really is it?

If IFA weren't aware of problems when you phoned them it must have been you that prompted this

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/ifa-calls-on-creed-to-resolve-payment-delays/

adne · 26-10-2019 8:40pm

wrangler wrote: »

If IFA weren't aware of problems when you phoned them it must have been you that prompted this

https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/ifa-calls-on-creed-to-resolve-payment-delays/

Know scores of people in my locality that issue. It's been flagged with IFA since mid Sept without any resolution.

This article in the media is typical of IFA. A press release to make it appear their resolving when in reality all is is is a press release with no substance

whelan2 · 26-10-2019 9:23pm

adne wrote: »

Know scores of people in my locality that issue. It's been flagged with IFA since mid Sept without any resolution.

This article in the media is typical of IFA. A press release to make it appear their resolving when in reality all is is is a press release with no substance

I have rang the department 10 times. I alone have succeeded in getting my dad's payment processed. Hopefully mine will be sorted soon. Surely there must be figures out there of the amount of people who haven't been paid yet. I know the amount of unpaid clients my teagasc advisor alone has is incredible. Apart from on here there has been nothing about the delays in the farming media.

wrangler · 26-10-2019 9:25pm

adne wrote: »

Know scores of people in my locality that issue. It's been flagged with IFA since mid Sept without any resolution.

This article in the media is typical of IFA. A press release to make it appear their resolving when in reality all is is is a press release with no substance

Thankfully I never have got any problem getting paid, Public service is rubbish but take it from me that it's not always the departments fault.
You saw what whelan was told, that local office hadn't been informed of any problem.
Anyway it's not my problem now

Mooooo · 26-10-2019 11:04pm

whelan2 wrote: »

I have rang the department 10 times. I alone have succeeded in getting my dad's payment processed. Hopefully mine will be sorted soon. Surely there must be figures out there of the amount of people who haven't been paid yet. I know the amount of unpaid clients my teagasc advisor alone has is incredible. Apart from on here there has been nothing about the delays in the farming media.

I think the journal had something 3700 unpaid due to satellite inspections or something, don't have it to hand but there was something there alright. We were held up for 3 months last year due to a few fecking nettles along the roadway the time the picture was taken, part they had marked red width even amount to an acre, point something of it. Frustrating

Water John · 26-10-2019 11:18pm

What is really irking is that, in a year or two they'll be insisting we have more areas for biodiversity and wild life. How many times have people got in the digger to clear any area that might be picked up by the satellite in the sky, or the two legged satellite.

amacca · 26-10-2019 11:36pm

Water John wrote: »

What is really irking is that, in a year or two they'll be insisting we have more areas for biodiversity and wild life. How many times have people got in the digger to clear any area that might be picked up by the satellite in the sky, or the two legged satellite.

I specifically went in an cut rushes (habitat) because of their rules.....seemed moronic to me at the time...even more so now

if they made it sustainable for primary producers to look after biodiversity you'd imagine the vast majority of them would...****ing food harvest 2020...the shine should be gone off that now surely

when will the meddling ****ers get it right and leave a living/even a part time living or a few bob in it for the people working on the ground, they shouldn't be in charge they are so poor at it

Sheep breeder · 27-10-2019 12:28am

Last year didn’t get paid the first day, rang up and enquired and was told satellite inspection the problem. A week later got a field visit for the bird cover crop. The guy said the satellite had difficulties picking up the crop due to dry summer and this was the reason for non payment.
A neighbour hasn’t got the ANC payment due to appealing the deductible area with the new townlands. This is what he was told on the phone.

sonnybill · 30-10-2019 12:40am

Got sorted all together 25-10-19

Beep first
Then 70% bps
85% ANC

Limestone Cowboy · 30-10-2019 12:49am

sonnybill wrote: »

Got sorted all together 25-10-19

Beep first
Then 70% bps
85% ANC

Are many people paid for beep? No sign of it here.

Tanko1414 · 01-11-2019 12:59pm

anfieldrd wrote: »

Anc paid, waiting on BPS.

Yes awaiting BPS payment ANC paid

whelan2 · 01-11-2019 1:04pm

Rang today. No news still waiting for the satellite inspection. Under the charter they have until june to pay farmers

Sacrolyte · 01-11-2019 1:05pm

Still nothing here. Told now it’s a satellite inspection. What are they looking for in satellite inspections.Is it glas measures, farmyards, spreading dates adhereance or just area checks?

whelan2 · 01-11-2019 1:13pm

Sacrolyte wrote: »

Still nothing here. Told now it’s a satellite inspection. What are they looking for in satellite inspections.Is it glas measures, farmyards, spreading dates adhereance or just area checks?

Just area afaik

Buford T. Justice XIX · 01-11-2019 1:49pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Rang today. No news still waiting for the satellite inspection. Under the charter they have until june to pay farmers

Did they say which June?:pac:

Mortelaro · 01-11-2019 1:57pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Rang today. No news still waiting for the satellite inspection. Under the charter they have until june to pay farmers

From September to June ? 9 months ðŸ˜±
Wtf sort of charter is that?
Dáil Question needed

whelan2 · 01-11-2019 2:01pm

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Did they say which June?:pac:

I just said ffs. She said now it would be very few that would be left until June. Local teagasc man meeting dept on Monday and he will bring up my case

whelan2 · 01-11-2019 2:02pm

Mortelaro wrote: »

From September to June ? 9 months ðŸ˜±
Wtf sort of charter is that?
Dáil Question needed

Ye I dont know who negotiated that. They have my application since April.

Tanko1414 · 01-11-2019 7:10pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye I dont know who negotiated that. They have my application since April.

They have all applications since May yet only now they carrying out inspections, total bullsh#t, if you were late putting in application they very fast to penalise for late submission, they will find any excuse to cut payments...... I have people looking for payment and I can't pay them what the f#ck am I supposed to do....

whelan2 · 01-11-2019 7:15pm

Tanko1414 wrote: »

They have all applications since May yet only now they carrying out inspections, total bullsh#t, if you were late putting in application they very fast to penalise for late submission, they will find any excuse to cut payments...... I have people looking for payment and I can't pay them what the f#ck am I supposed to do....

I went to my bank manager as soon as I knew what a cluster**** it was. Takes the pressure off me

MIKEKC · 01-11-2019 7:24pm

Tanko1414 wrote: »

They have all applications since May yet only now they carrying out inspections, total bullsh#t, if you were late putting in application they very fast to penalise for late submission, they will find any excuse to cut payments...... I have people looking for payment and I can't pay them what the f#ck am I supposed to do....

If things are that bad, perhaps retire from farming

wrangler · 01-11-2019 7:25pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Ye I dont know who negotiated that. They have my application since April.

Charter of rights expects 90% of payments on 16th October and a target of 100% of balancing payment on 1st dec.
That's why I tell people not to commit to any payments/instalments until December......
EU allows them until june the following year, Great Britain used to be so slow that you didn't know what year you were getting

Dinzee Conlee · 01-11-2019 7:48pm

MIKEKC wrote: »

If things are that bad, perhaps retire from farming

Ah, bit harsh maybe...
We read often that most enterprises are barely break even so it’s hardly surprising that the BPM is used to pay bills...

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