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2019-2020 Off Season Thread

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  • #102
    ShyMets
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭ShyMets


    jack presley wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/mlbrandomstats/status/1232026295132999680?s=21

    I'm sure it was just a wild pitch:)


  • #103
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    jack presley wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/mlbrandomstats/status/1232026295132999680?s=21

    Tough year ahead maybe for Altuve and the rest of them.

    The Commissioner didnt do enough.

    Cheating is cheating , if all the Astros players were caught 100% using steroids can you imagine the ban they would have handed down?

    How is this different.


  • #104
    circular flexing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    How is this different.


    It's different because unlike steroids there's no test for sign stealing and the price for player testimony was immunity.


    I've also seen it mentioned that after the Red Sox sign stealing investigation in 2017, the commissioner issued a directive that placed the onus on the GM/field manager to prevent any sign stealing from happening on their team. This is why Hinch and Lunhow were suspended and not the players. Given the players have union protections, any disciplinary procedures against them would likely fail.



    Obviously the whole thing stinks and is wrong but MLB set themselves up for this.


  • #105
    jack presley
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    First big casualty of Spring Training. Luis Severino needs TJ.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28780316/yankees-starter-luis-severino-needs-tommy-john-surgery


  • #106
    circular flexing
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,589 ✭✭✭circular flexing


    Surprised to see Tim Tebow still knocking around the minors.


  • #107
    jack presley
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Surprised to see Tim Tebow still knocking around the minors.

    The fact that he hit a HR in a spring training game and the media are doing cartwheels reminds me as to why I want him to disappear again. He's just a distraction.


  • #108
    jack presley
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    Yankees not having much luck to start the season

    https://twitter.com/SNYtv/status/1232768696197767170


  • #109
    jack presley
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    I'll just leave this here

    https://twitter.com/genymets/status/1233491238235627523

    Edit: Now with video

    https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/status/1233492060285657088


  • #110
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,380 ✭✭✭The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman


    jack presley wrote: »
    I'll just leave this here

    https://twitter.com/genymets/status/1233491238235627523

    Edit: Now with video

    https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/status/1233492060285657088

    It happens to great players not just the Tim Tebows of this league


  • #111
    jack presley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,687 ✭✭✭✭jack presley


    I had never heard of Jomboy until he did that video of the Astros with the bin but since then I've fallen into a rabbit hole of watching all his Breakdown videos on on brawls, ejections and other stuff that gores on in baseball games. Some of it is very funny. Well worth a watch if you have a big of time to kill

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCl9E4Zxa8CVr2LBLD0_TaNg


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  • #112
    jack presley
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    Looks good don't you think?

    https://twitter.com/Rangers/status/1235276360517660677?s=20


  • #113
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,823 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    jack presley wrote: »
    Looks good don't you think?

    Much more attractive with the roof open. Reminds me of Safeco. They do need a roof they play in brutally hot weather during the summer. Nice photo gallery online


  • #114
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Looks good don't you think?

    https://twitter.com/Rangers/status/1235276360517660677?s=20


    Looks good but is also a colossal waste of money considering how new Globe Life Park is and as usual the public end up picking up a significant portion of the cost.


  • #115
    jack presley
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Looks good but is also a colossal waste of money considering how new Globe Life Park is and as usual the public end up picking up a significant portion of the cost.

    We need that roof! Can't have people sweltering in the heat now can we....?????

    Yeah, I agree a complete scam for the taxpayers. I don't know for sure but they probably subsidised Jerry World to some degree as well.


  • #116
    jack presley
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    Hopefully people will remember this on Bobby Bonilla day

    https://twitter.com/mikemayerMMO/status/1237451252805652480

    (and that Boston are paying $50.5m this season on players who won't play for them this year).


  • #117
    circular flexing
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    Looks like the Governor of Washington is going to ban public gatherings of more than 250 people which would obviously impact Seattle Mariners. Mariners are discussing staying in Arizona and playing home games there.


  • #118
    ShyMets
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Looks like the Governor of Washington is going to ban public gatherings of more than 250 people which would obviously impact Seattle Mariners. Mariners are discussing staying in Arizona and playing home games there.

    The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if we see opening day delayed or games played in empty stadiums


  • #119
    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman
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    ShyMets wrote: »
    The way things are going I wouldn't be surprised if we see opening day delayed or games played in empty stadiums

    I believe from mates in NewYork that it looks like the season will be indefinitely suspended.


  • #120
    jack presley
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    The Reservoir Dubs Anchorman wrote: »
    I believe from mates in NewYork that it looks like the season will be indefinitely suspended.

    Baseball’s probably the league that can adapt to a closure the best. Say they start in May or June, a 120 game season or whatever wouldn’t take away from the integrity of the season.


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  • #121
    smackbunnybaby
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,335 ✭✭✭smackbunnybaby


    jack presley wrote: »
    Baseball’s probably the league that can adapt to a closure the best. Say they start in May or June, a 120 game season or whatever wouldn’t take away from the integrity of the season.

    and the double headers option too.


  • #122
    ShyMets
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    smackbunnybaby wrote: »
    and the double headers option too.

    They have more options then other sports. Off course it all depends how this plays out. Most predictions suggest this wont peak until June. Lets hope not


  • #123
    boccy23
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    Why not play behind closed doors? Some stadiums are like that on a normal day anyway. I was in Marlins park with less than 3000 other souls.


  • #124
    circular flexing
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    Strong indications that MLB will now suspend operations. Probably the only choice they have now considering NHL also shut down.


  • #125
    jack presley
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Strong indications that MLB will now suspend operations. Probably the only choice they have now considering NHL also shut down.

    So the Astros gets suspended after all........


  • #126
    circular flexing
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    They have cancelled about half the spring training games today.


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  • #127
    jack presley
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    They have cancelled about half the spring training games today.

    https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1238180305770549249

    Will probably end up being a lot longer than 2 weeks I'd say


  • #128
    ShyMets
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    jack presley wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1238180305770549249

    Will probably end up being a lot longer than 2 weeks I'd say

    The right call. Agree. I imagine we're looking at a delay of at least a month


  • #129
    jack presley
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    Tommy John for Noah Syndergaard. No baseball going on and there's still bad news for Mets fans.


  • #130
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Tommy John for Noah Syndergaard. No baseball going on and there's still bad news for Mets fans.


    Chris Sale too!


  • #131
    Coeus
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Tommy John for Noah Syndergaard. No baseball going on and there's still bad news for Mets fans.
    This could only happen to the Mets giving what is going down in the US. He may not miss so much baseball given that a shortened season is the best we can hope for.


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  • #132
    Igotadose
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    How is it they can do the TJ surgery on Syndegaard 'right away' in NYC. I thought hospitals had much higher priorities, and this is elective surgery at best. Seems wrong somehow.


  • #133
    ShyMets
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    Coeus wrote: »
    This could only happen to the Mets giving what is going down in the US. He may not miss so much baseball given that a shortened season is the best we can hope for.

    Did you not hear the Donald speaking. This will all have blown over in a few weeks. He's got a good feeling about it.


  • #134
    circular flexing
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    Happy opening day!


  • #135
    jack presley
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    What do you make of this? Baseball in May, all in Arizona. Seems a bit optimistic to me.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona


  • #136
    boccy23
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    jack presley wrote: »
    What do you make of this? Baseball in May, all in Arizona. Seems a bit optimistic to me.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona

    It would be nice though. Definitely something to look forward to.


  • #137
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    What do you make of this? Baseball in May, all in Arizona. Seems a bit optimistic to me.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29004498/mlb-union-focused-plan-allow-season-start-early-arizona


    Honestly, I'm fully prepared for there to be no sports for the rest of the year. The risks are too high.


  • #138
    jack presley
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Honestly, I'm fully prepared for there to be no sports for the rest of the year. The risks are too high.

    Yeah, beginning to feel that way myself. Cancelled my MLB.TV sub today and refund due in 3-5 days.


  • #139
    circular flexing
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    jack presley wrote: »
    Yeah, beginning to feel that way myself. Cancelled my MLB.TV sub today and refund due in 3-5 days.


    ESPN talked to a few of the players anonymously and it sounds like there's a lot of pushback from the players at the idea of being holed up in Arizona for 4+ months.


  • #140
    Igotadose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,823 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Yankees co-owner Hank Steinbrenner died yesterday. Not from Covid. Sorry for his family.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/29034938/yankees-executive-hank-steinbrenner-dies-63-lengthy-illness


  • #141
    rebelyell99
    Registered Users Posts: 394 ✭✭rebelyell99


    Mlb seems to be eyeing a July return.The latest idea being thrown around seems to be three 10 team divisions and start playing in Arizona , Florida hopefully moving to home ballparks when safe .Its probably wishful thinking but it would be something to look forward to.


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  • #142
    jack presley
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    rebelyell99 wrote: »
    Mlb seems to be eyeing a July return.The latest idea being thrown around seems to be three 10 team divisions and start playing in Arizona , Florida hopefully moving to home ballparks when safe .Its probably wishful thinking but it would be something to look forward to.

    Hopefully something happens, if only to save us from the stuff reporters have had to resort to writing about. The top story on MLB.com's daily news email today is "The best left fielder in each team's history".


  • #143
    krustydoyle
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    I just can't see this Arizona/Miami thing working.. Its all down to greed, same as the NFL.. way too much money involved so i can only imagine the pressure coming from sponsors etc


  • #144
    jack presley
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    krustydoyle wrote: »
    I just can't see this Arizona/Miami thing working.. Its all down to greed, same as the NFL.. way too much money involved so i can only imagine the pressure coming from sponsors etc

    Players aren’t getting paid while games aren’t being played so I’m sure they’re itching to get back too. The superstars on big contracts probably not as much as the regular roster player though.


  • #145
    circular flexing
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    Another proposal being suggested now is 80 game season starting in July with expanded rosters and postseason. Teams would play in their home stadiums where possible and games would mostly be in the same division.


  • #146
    Stephen A Smith
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Another proposal being suggested now is 80 game season starting in July with expanded rosters and postseason. Teams would play in their home stadiums where possible and games would mostly be in the same division.

    Don’t think that’ll happen if as is suggested the players have to take a significant wage cut. That seems to be the big stumbling block ahead for MLB.


  • #147
    circular flexing
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    Stephen A Smith wrote: »
    Don’t think that’ll happen if as is suggested the players have to take a significant wage cut. That seems to be the big stumbling block ahead for MLB.

    To be more precise, one of the biggest issues is that the owners want to split salary based on revenue (which is effectively a salary cap). The players union has been successful in avoiding a salary cap like other major sports so far and it feels like owners are trying to introduce salary cap through the back door. If the proposal was to pay 1/2 salary for 80 games, I think players would be on board with that.


  • #148
    Igotadose
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    Sign him as insurance for Syndegaard (o.k., I'm joking. It'd be entertaining for a start or two.)

    https://sports.yahoo.com/bartolo-colon-wants-to-pitch-one-more-season-in-mlb-and-even-has-a-preferred-team-in-mind-203719383.html

    Never tire of watching this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX8-Ze-0GR4


  • #149
    jack presley
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    I watched my first KBO game today. Enjoyable enough although at certain times during the game they bring out the cheer squads who make an awful racket for the 0 fans in attendance.


  • #150
    circular flexing
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    Not looking good for any play this season now, the owners have now proposed a sliding scale salary arrangement

    https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1265422054880358402

    Obviously the players are opposed to this structure so there's still more negotiation to be done. Hard to know when the cutoff date would be but I imagine if there's no agreement in the next week or so then it'll be too late.


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  • #151
    ShyMets
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    circular flexing wrote: »
    Not looking good for any play this season now, the owners have now proposed a sliding scale salary arrangement

    https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1265422054880358402

    Obviously the players are opposed to this structure so there's still more negotiation to be done. Hard to know when the cutoff date would be but I imagine if there's no agreement in the next week or so then it'll be too late.

    Based on that proposal its difficult to see any agreement being reached


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