Sourcing an Amorak or Ranger up North for farm work any dealer recommendations?

Tommyturf · 26-01-2021 9:30am #1

Thanks in advance

grayzer75 · 26-01-2021 9:36am

I've been dealing with Agnew's in Belfast for the past 15 years and never had an issue, although I have only bought domestic vehicles but I'm sure they're worth a look for their commercials as well:

https://www.agnewcars.com/volkswagen-commercials/used-commercials/approved/?COGManufacturer=Volkswagen&COGModel=Amarok%2cAMAROK+A32+DIESEL%2cAMAROK+A33+DIESEL

Cavanjack · 26-01-2021 10:18am

Is there anything to be saved travelling north or going to England now?

Kevhog1988 · 26-01-2021 10:56am

Herselfs father brings in vehicles from the uk regularily. savage spec on the uk jeeps compared to here.

punisher5112 · 26-01-2021 10:58am

Cavanjack wrote: »

Is there anything to be saved travelling north or going to England now?

Yes but be careful as the terms of the vehicle been registered in the north so Northern reg for example and if on UK plates in the region I believe 12 months....

Have to read up on it better but there isn't the charges etc if were bringing over the water..... From the UK mainland...

Tommyturf · 26-01-2021 1:22pm

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Herselfs father brings in vehicles from the uk regularily. savage spec on the uk jeeps compared to here.

any solid traders over there? i still think theres probably a bit to be saved, when VRT, VAT, duty, exchange, and better spec are all considered. thanks

Kevhog1988 · 26-01-2021 1:34pm

Tommyturf wrote: »

any solid traders over there? i still think theres probably a bit to be saved, when VRT, VAT, duty, exchange, and better spec are all considered. thanks

I'm not sure who/where he buys off tbh. Just know that he'd have a steady flow of good yokes coming through the garage. I know he said some new change to emissions makes them dearer since the new year but I don't really ask too many questions on it, that could be just cars. Not sure if there's any additional fees/costs now with brexit.

390kid · 27-01-2021 1:18pm

Does it have to be up north? See Kane’s in Longford with a nice selection of amaroks?

Tommyturf · 27-01-2021 1:40pm

390kid wrote: »

Does it have to be up north? See Kane’s in Longford with a nice selection of amaroks?

Thanks for response, I'll look at kanes now. Now once the value is there I'd purchase anywhere tbh, cheers

Mooooo · 27-01-2021 2:27pm

I see on the reviews from the Australian videos the main complaint is the lack of curtain airbags in the rear, is it the same in Europe?

funkey_monkey · 03-02-2021 2:18pm

https://www.alexandertractors.com/#search/vehicletype-Commercials/

When you go up you can get yourself a couple of good in-calf heifers from his Jalex herd

Tommyturf · 03-02-2021 2:28pm

funkey_monkey wrote: »

https://www.alexandertractors.com/#search/vehicletype-Commercials/

When you go up you can get yourself a couple of good in-calf heifers from his Jalex herd

There a Rob, all prices ex Vat, may keep looking in South!

kevthegaff · 03-02-2021 4:37pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/commercials-for-sale/2017-toyota-hilux-invincible/26471621 what are this crowd like for jeeps, these hilux look nice

Mooooo · 03-02-2021 4:49pm

Us it just the 13.5% vrt and vat that is charged on them now from the north?

kevthegaff · 03-02-2021 4:53pm

Mooooo wrote: »

Us it just the 13.5% vrt and vat that is charged on them now from the north?

So on a 20000 jeep that's 2700?

DonegalMick · 03-02-2021 10:20pm

I bought a Ford ranger a few year ago from brown and day in clay, outside Derry City, found them very good to deal with

Rabbitman · 11-02-2021 8:36pm

Alexandertractors Randalstown have some nice Amoraks priced fairly ok . Never dealt with them myself but a few guys down here bought tractors from them and found them very honest .

Kevhog1988 · 23-02-2021 12:31pm

I drove a ranger last night herself's father has in at the moment. Christ there's some comfort in it.

390kid · 24-02-2021 2:12am

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

I drove a ranger last night herself's father has in at the moment. Christ there's some comfort in it.

Was it the 3.2 model? There seems to be a big variety on the specs you can get on them

Albert Johnson · 24-02-2021 2:44am

390kid wrote: »

Was it the 3.2 model? There seems to be a big variety on the specs you can get on them

The 3.2 are high spec but have the price tag to match. The 2.2 seem more like the poverty spec you'd expect from an entry level Ford.

The 3.2 look the part but there too big and gaudy imo although there getting very popular locally. If I had that sort of money to spend I think I'd still go with the Land Cruiser.

Kevhog1988 · 24-02-2021 10:51am

Its the 2.2 model but fierce highly specced inside. leather interior and heated seats etc. ive seen a few of them 3.2's around here and they look fierce redneck. They have a 2 tone trim on the interior of a lot of them thats rotten.

390kid · 24-02-2021 7:39pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

The 3.2 are high spec but have the price tag to match. The 2.2 seem more like the poverty spec you'd expect from an entry level Ford.

The 3.2 look the part but there too big and gaudy imo although there getting very popular locally. If I had that sort of money to spend I think I'd still go with the Land Cruiser.

Ye they do seem fairly big and bulky looking don’t know how they’d be in a tight spot with a tri axle trailer, ye I’d share the same view as you when it comes to the spending part. How are the reports of the amorak for farming l?

Albert Johnson · 24-02-2021 8:29pm

390kid wrote: »

Ye they do seem fairly big and bulky looking don’t know how they’d be in a tight spot with a tri axle trailer, ye I’d share the same view as you when it comes to the spending part. How are the reports of the amorak for farming l?

I've yet to encounter a crewcab that had anything better than an average steering lock and turning circle. The problem with any of them is when you put a 14" trailer on the back you're into an outfit that's 32 or 34 foot long. You'd have a nice sized lorry to get to that size and it would be more maneuverable in a tight yard. Most of the places I'd be you'd want a map to find space to turn around.

There's not that many of the Amorak locally and I'd have thought they'd be pricey too. The lack of a 4wd low box would put me off although maybe it wouldn't make much difference in the overall scheme of thing's. I had a drive in a friend's 201 short wheel base Land Cruiser lately and tbh there still the best jeep imo. Are they gone to a 2.8 engine now in the cruiser?

Mooooo · 24-02-2021 8:56pm

The auto and v6 combo in the amarok is supposed to be a good combo, 8 speed auto so plenty gears

selectamatic · 24-02-2021 9:46pm

Kevhog1988 wrote: »

Its the 2.2 model but fierce highly specced inside. leather interior and heated seats etc. ive seen a few of them 3.2's around here and they look fierce redneck. They have a 2 tone trim on the interior of a lot of them thats rotten.

That 2.2 engine isn't that great at all. Supposed to be underpowered for them and can give oil pump problems.

It's used in transits, some Peugeot and Citroen vans and some Jaguar cars and it has a patchy rep in all of them.

Think Ford have done a few recalls on them.

390kid · 25-02-2021 11:41am

Albert Johnson wrote: »

I've yet to encounter a crewcab that had anything better than an average steering lock and turning circle. The problem with any of them is when you put a 14" trailer on the back you're into an outfit that's 32 or 34 foot long. You'd have a nice sized lorry to get to that size and it would be more maneuverable in a tight yard. Most of the places I'd be you'd want a map to find space to turn around.

There's not that many of the Amorak locally and I'd have thought they'd be pricey too. The lack of a 4wd low box would put me off although maybe it wouldn't make much difference in the overall scheme of thing's. I had a drive in a friend's 201 short wheel base Land Cruiser lately and tbh there still the best jeep imo. Are they gone to a 2.8 engine now in the cruiser?

Ye there a 2.8 now man I work for has one and reckons she’s a animal to pull

Mad_maxx · 25-02-2021 12:07pm

Albert Johnson wrote: »

The 3.2 are high spec but have the price tag to match. The 2.2 seem more like the poverty spec you'd expect from an entry level Ford.

The 3.2 look the part but there too big and gaudy imo although there getting very popular locally. If I had that sort of money to spend I think I'd still go with the Land Cruiser.

perhaps im mistaken and you are referring to a commercial SWB but a three year old landcruiser ( five seater ) costs the same as a brand new Ford Ranger 3.2 wildtrak

a 2.2 ranger should not be considered IMO

a cousin of mine has a 3.2 ,he says its the best pick up he has ever driven and he,s owned hilux before

Grueller · 25-02-2021 1:26pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

perhaps im mistaken and you are referring to a commercial SWB but a three year old landcruiser ( five seater ) costs the same as a brand new Ford Ranger 3.2 wildtrak

a 2.2 ranger should not be considered IMO

a cousin of mine has a 3.2 ,he says its the best pick up he has ever driven and he,s owned hilux before

How old?

Mad_maxx · 25-02-2021 4:01pm

Grueller wrote: »

How old?

2016

DBK1 · 25-02-2021 4:06pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

perhaps im mistaken and you are referring to a commercial SWB but a three year old landcruiser ( five seater ) costs the same as a brand new Ford Ranger 3.2 wildtrak

a 2.2 ranger should not be considered IMO

a cousin of mine has a 3.2 ,he says its the best pick up he has ever driven and he,s owned hilux before

The problem with the 3 year old land cruisers is they are the same price as a new land cruiser as well.

A friend of mine went to buy one last week. Waiting time for a new one is 6-8 months. There was a few clean second hands in the dealers yard so he enquired about them.

A 2 year old with 20k km on it was €4000 dearer than the new one, same spec. A 1 yr old with 48k km on it was only €1,500 less than the new one. He said to the salesman “sure that’s crazy, how could they be worth that?” “They can’t be got so that’s what they’re making” was the reply and “if you don’t want to pay that there’s no problem, the next lad in will.”

Vinnymcdonnell · 25-02-2021 4:07pm

Why not just get a high Spec Nissan Navara. Will be more comfortable than the other crewcabs as it has independent rear suspension rather than leaf's like the rest. Would need to be the newer shape (16+) so it does not have the rear bed rust issues.

We bought a 6 month old one from the North and saved around 15k in 2016. High spec with leather and auto box, was a very good jeep to be fair

Grueller · 25-02-2021 4:42pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

2016

To be fair that's not old enough to know if they are durable enough or not though. I only think of buying a jeep when it gets to about 8 years old.

Albert Johnson · 25-02-2021 6:36pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

perhaps im mistaken and you are referring to a commercial SWB but a three year old landcruiser ( five seater ) costs the same as a brand new Ford Ranger 3.2 wildtrak

a 2.2 ranger should not be considered IMO

a cousin of mine has a 3.2 ,he says its the best pick up he has ever driven and he,s owned hilux before

I'd be comparing it too a commercial Land Cruiser which isn't exactly comparing like with like I know. I'd only need 2 seats so a crewcab isn't much of an advantage to me and the extra turning area required is more of a hindrance than anything. The 3.2 are getting very popular locally and are supposed to be very powerful but I thought they weren't without there faults and were considered thirsty enough to run. The problem with the 3 year old Land Cruiser atm is that it isn't much cheaper than a brand new one but that's another story.

Albert Johnson · 25-02-2021 6:40pm

Vinnymcdonnell wrote: »

Why not just get a high Spec Nissan Navara. Will be more comfortable than the other crewcabs as it has independent rear suspension rather than leaf's like the rest. Would need to be the newer shape (16+) so it does not have the rear bed rust issues.

We bought a 6 month old one from the North and saved around 15k in 2016. High spec with leather and auto box, was a very good jeep to be fair

In fairness the newer ones would want to be substantially ahead of the older model which seemed to have an endless list of faults with snapping in two being the most prominent one. I see very little newer type Navaras locally which tells it's own story although Tom Regan seems to be importing a few lately going by donedeal. They seem more popular in England although that's probably because there one of the lower priced pickups to buy new.

funkey_monkey · 25-02-2021 6:48pm

https://pickupand4x4.co.uk/nissan-navara-to-be-axed-in-the-uk-as-facelift-cancelled/

No more Navara by the looks of it:

As a facelifted Navara goes on sale around the world, Professional Pickup & 4×4 has learned that Nissan is withdrawing the popular pickup truck from sale in the UK and Europe

However, an entirely new Navara is expected in 2025, based on the next-generation Mitsubishi L200 platform and, while unlikely, it remains a possibility that this could be introduced in the UK and Europe.

Mad_maxx · 25-02-2021 9:44pm

Vinnymcdonnell wrote: »

Why not just get a high Spec Nissan Navara. Will be more comfortable than the other crewcabs as it has independent rear suspension rather than leaf's like the rest. Would need to be the newer shape (16+) so it does not have the rear bed rust issues.

We bought a 6 month old one from the North and saved around 15k in 2016. High spec with leather and auto box, was a very good jeep to be fair

dead as a dodo compared to a 3.2 ford ranger

enricoh · 25-02-2021 10:23pm

DBK1 wrote: »

The problem with the 3 year old land cruisers is they are the same price as a new land cruiser as well.

A friend of mine went to buy one last week. Waiting time for a new one is 6-8 months. There was a few clean second hands in the dealers yard so he enquired about them.

A 2 year old with 20k km on it was €4000 dearer than the new one, same spec. A 1 yr old with 48k km on it was only €1,500 less than the new one. He said to the salesman “sure that’s crazy, how could they be worth that?” “They can’t be got so that’s what they’re making” was the reply and “if you don’t want to pay that there’s no problem, the next lad in will.”

Sounds like we're back in the Celtic tiger! What could possibly go wrong!

DBK1 · 25-02-2021 11:38pm

enricoh wrote: »

Sounds like we're back in the Celtic tiger! What could possibly go wrong!

Unfortunately that’s what it’s looking like alright!

Kevhog1988 · 26-02-2021 12:02am

enricoh wrote: »

Sounds like we're back in the Celtic tiger! What could possibly go wrong!

I'd welcome a property crash... I'm on the hunt for a house lol

Kevhog1988 · 10-03-2021 10:53pm

Herself had the 3.2 ranger home from the garage this evening. A different drive to the 2 litre ranger. Definitely geared differently. Serious towing power id say

Vinnymcdonnell · 11-03-2021 1:04pm

Mad_maxx wrote: »

dead as a dodo compared to a 3.2 ford ranger

We never had any issues with ours pulling loads. We always had landcruiser’s prior to the Navara and compared to them it was as good. Great pickup from our point of view anyway and was reliable.

The problem with the new pickup’s though is the size of them, they are big b@stards on small roads and for parking

kevthegaff · 11-03-2021 3:14pm

Was in getting the hilux tested, 41k for the 2.4, 45 for the 2.8 basic models. 82k for landcruiser with seats!! Think vet is 27k on new landcruisers..I'd get 9k for my 08, prob best option buying new as heard of alad buying a 3 year old hilux that engine went after it was traded in from some dodgy salesmen.. with no servicing..

Sourcing an Amorak or Ranger up North for farm work any dealer recommendations?

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