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Calf price chitchat

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    #2282
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    deise toffee wrote: »
    What would Norwegian red x Friesian bull calves be worth? First time I have a few of them this year.

    Saw one online in castleisland today on line. He was 25+ days old I think. Looked a fine big long calf but a bit narrow. I think he made 60 euro.

    Friesians were sold in bunches of 4-6, most lots varied from 12-20 days, 1-2 good ones 1-2 middling ones and two young ones. Selling around the 45 euro mart. Go into any mart on LSL, and open up mart and go into cathelog. On the day of the mart you can click on and see the actual sale and calves.

    HE and AA were crazy over 14 days 300 euro

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #2283
    4ever
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭4ever


    Should all calves being sold online be weighed?

    Brought home a blwh bull today who cost 275 but really wasn't worth that. He looked decent in the camera but he's well handy in real life. I find it very difficult to judge them on the camera size wise


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    #2284
    Niallers87
    Registered Users Posts: 367 ✭✭Niallers87


    deise toffee wrote: »
    What would Norwegian red x Friesian bull calves be worth? First time I have a few of them this year.

    Actually saw a bunch of 5 or 6 of them coming into the ring in kilmallock and they made about 80 euros i think


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    #2285
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    4ever wrote: »
    Should all calves being sold online be weighed?

    Brought home a blwh bull today who cost 275 but really wasn't worth that. He looked decent in the camera but he's well handy in real life. I find it very difficult to judge them on the camera size wise

    Phone camera is hard to judge calves with. Labtop or tablet is better

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #2286
    4ever
    Registered Users Posts: 11 ✭4ever


    Bass Reeves wrote: »
    Phone camera is hard to judge calves with. Labtop or tablet is better

    Bought on a laptop. 10kgs is a big difference in a calf and difficult to spot on the cameras. They should just be weighed and that would remove doubts.


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    #2287
    alps
    Registered Users Posts: 4,927 ✭✭✭alps


    How accurate are mart scales? For larger cattle, is it + or - 10kg?...would want to be bang on for calves..


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    #2288
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    I'm in the middle of a tb test here (reading on fri), I got cards today for calves under 6wks old, that I didn't test, I put them numbers into the agfood eligibility thing, and its saying I can move them now, which I didn't think I could during a tb test? Is that likely to change between now and like friday?


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    #2289
    Bass Reeves
    Registered Users Posts: 18,156 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    alps wrote: »
    How accurate are mart scales? For larger cattle, is it + or - 10kg?...would want to be bang on for calves..

    You would want a special scales for calves. Sensetivity is 5 or 10 kgs on most mart scales. It would need to be accurate to 0.5 kgs

    Slava Ukrainii



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    #2290
    Anto_Meath
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    I see Carnaross mart is weighing calves, they are using the scales they use to weigh the lambs


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    #2291
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,079 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Timmaay wrote: »
    I'm in the middle of a tb test here (reading on fri), I got cards today for calves under 6wks old, that I didn't test, I put them numbers into the agfood eligibility thing, and its saying I can move them now, which I didn't think I could during a tb test? Is that likely to change between now and like friday?

    If they weren't tested and you are currently clear work away


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    #2292
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    whelan2 wrote: »
    If they weren't tested and you are currently clear work away

    I'd say he'd have to wait till test read on fri. If he goes down and they moved twud be a **** show


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    #2293
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,079 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mooooo wrote: »
    I'd say he'd have to wait till test read on fri. If he goes down and they moved twud be a **** show

    No if they weren't tested it wont matter. I did it last year. Between testing and reading.


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    #2294
    farisfat
    Registered Users Posts: 326 ✭✭farisfat


    whelan2 wrote: »
    No if they weren't tested it wont matter. I did it last year. Between testing and reading.

    All animals in your herd the day of the test have to be tested.


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    #2295
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,206 ✭✭✭tanko


    farisfat wrote: »
    All animals in your herd the day of the test have to be tested.

    Are you sure, i thought if they're under six weeks old testing is optional?


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    #2296
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    See there today in fermoy the calf weight is up with its price.
    Must be the sheep marts are better set up for it.


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    #2297
    Mooooo
    Registered Users Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    tanko wrote: »
    Are you sure, i thought if they're under six weeks old testing is optional?

    It is but as far as I was told anyway, if in the middle of the test no animal can leave the herd?


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    #2298
    RedPeppers
    Registered Users Posts: 606 ✭✭✭RedPeppers


    4ever wrote: »
    Should all calves being sold online be weighed?

    Brought home a blwh bull today who cost 275 but really wasn't worth that. He looked decent in the camera but he's well handy in real life. I find it very difficult to judge them on the camera size wise

    Can’t see why the calf weight wouldn’t be displayed? Sold fr bulls last week, weights up for buyer to see


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    #2299
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Anto_Meath wrote: »
    I see Carnaross mart is weighing calves, they are using the scales they use to weigh the lambs
    I stand corrected but I think they are only showing the weights for FR bull calves, well that was the case last week. It's handy considering they (Viastar) are buying FR bull calves for shipping.


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    #2300
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    Mooooo wrote: »
    It is but as far as I was told anyway, if in the middle of the test no animal can leave the herd?
    I always thought the same unless it died and went on the knackery lorry.


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    #2301
    Anto_Meath
    Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    Base price wrote: »
    I stand corrected but I think they are only showing the weights for FR bull calves, well that was the case last week. It's handy considering they (Viastar) are buying FR bull calves for shipping.

    I only noticed it on the FR alright, but I looked back on the screen shot I put up here two weeks ago for the SPx heifer that made over €400 and I see they have the weight up for her, but they might not have it up for every calf. I did notice on Monday they didn't have it up for the runners which I that would have been handy.


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    #2302
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,079 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Mooooo wrote: »
    It is but as far as I was told anyway, if in the middle of the test no animal can leave the herd?

    Only if it was tested and is missing for the reading. A couple of years ago I had a cow did the splits and another the vet put down with a heart condition between testing and reading. I had to write a letter to the department explaining on animal welfare reasons they were put down.


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    #2303
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    whelan2 wrote: »
    Only if it was tested and is missing for the reading. A couple of years ago I had a cow did the splits and another the vet put down with a heart condition between testing and reading. I had to write a letter to the department explaining on animal welfare reasons they were put down.

    Had the same here last year, a cow dropped dead between the test and reading, knackery took the cow away, my vet didn't really care, and I heard nothing from the department. But yeh I think I'll wait, I don't want to like sell them and suddenly the permit won't go through.


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    #2304
    White Clover
    Registered Users Posts: 4,558 ✭✭✭White Clover


    DukeCaboom wrote: »
    See there today in fermoy the calf weight is up with its price.
    Must be the sheep marts are better set up for it.

    Fermoy is a very progressive mart in fairness.


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    #2305
    DukeCaboom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,028 ✭✭✭DukeCaboom


    White Clover wrote: »
    Fermoy is a very progressive mart in fairness.

    True, its out on its own compared to the rest of the Cork Marts.
    Sean is easily the best manager(for buyer & seller) & John is a very fair auctioneer.


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    #2306
    JeffKenna
    Registered Users Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭JeffKenna


    White Clover wrote: »
    Fermoy is a very progressive mart in fairness.

    I find the weight brilliant. Not going to pretend I'm a good judge of stock so it's really interesting to see the weights with the calfs sold.


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    #2307
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Mooooo wrote: »
    It is but as far as I was told anyway, if in the middle of the test no animal can leave the herd?

    Ok got an answer off a department vet today, yep this is the official line, from start of the tb test until the tb reading is over no animals should enter or exit your herd, if your within test and herd isn't restricted you'll still be able to generate permits on agfood during this time however ha.


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    #2308
    castletrader
    Registered Users Posts: 162 ✭✭castletrader


    einn32 wrote: »
    70€ in the yard for handy FR bulls at two weeks.
    Calves not even able to make €5 in Carnew today . fr bulls


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    148multi
    Registered Users Posts: 1,412 ✭✭✭148multi


    castletrader wrote: »
    Calves not even able to make €5 in Carnew today . fr bulls

    3 handy fr bulls for a€5 in carrigallen today, fr bulls averaging 45-50


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    #2310
    straight
    Registered Users Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭straight


    Is there boats going or what?


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    #2311
    Base price
    Registered Users Posts: 11,133 ✭✭✭✭Base price


    straight wrote: »
    Is there boats going or what?
    Lorries went out today.


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