Escaping to the countryside?

Still waters wrote: »

You're wife works, lol, she could spend that time having quality time and raising her kids properly like good mothers do in rural Ireland with tiny mortgages, or vice versa if you wanted to stay at home

So could I, lol! We have a tiny mortgage and have plenty of quality time with the kids and we raise them properly and not to judge people without knowing much about them. She likes to work three days a week and she's a good mother.

freshpopcorn wrote: »

You could also buy a very small property in rural Ireland and live off the land.
Get a job locally that may pay less and cycle /walk there everyday. if you wanted to reduce your carbon footprint further.

As I said, I like having the city close by and all the amenities it offers. I don't have to drive to get to them, I have a job locally and I cycle/walk there every day resulting in a very low carbon footprint.

freshpopcorn wrote: »

It was honestly a serious suggestion.
I heard about a family and they've gone off the grid to reduce their carbon footprint/etc. They found it easier in the country because they could afford a good plot of land to live off.

I don't think he is looking to lower carbon footprint, he is trying to tell everyone that his way of living is better. If you can't compare the size you need to find carbon footprint or theatres or restaurants and pubs.

sk8erboii wrote: »

I get it y'all. You cant stand conflict, never could. That's why when you're brought to a place thats all about competition (for money, for pussy, for fame) you just cant hack it.

Truth is, you're never gonna make it. Never will. You might aswell lay down and surrender (Go to the countryside and be alone so no one can hurt your fee fees).

You cant hack it in the arena. Here in Dublin, its a young man's game. The worn and tired slink away quietly to moldy pubs to complain about whoever they cant fight (Liberals? Immigrants? Feminists).

Thats what you are. Worn. You used to be a sharp knife. But you lost your edge. This is the time of our lives and your death.

Really piling back the champagne this weekend?

Jim Morrison meets James Joyce.

A well written piece though, nice flow to it.

We should all aspire to the vision that De Valera described in a speech in 1943:-

"....The ideal Ireland that we would have, the Ireland that we dreamed of, would be the home of a people who valued material wealth only as a basis for right living, of a people who, satisfied with frugal comfort, devoted their leisure to the things of the spirit – a land whose countryside would be bright with cosy homesteads, whose fields and villages would be joyous with the sounds of industry, with the romping of sturdy children, the contest of athletic youths and the laughter of happy maidens, whose firesides would be forums for the wisdom of serene old age........

That's exactly what life in the countryside is like.............isn't it?
Surely the great man's vision has been realised by now.........hasn't it?

I'm from the country but moved to Dublin 7 years ago for work. Myself and my partner bought up here recently enough but in the next few years we are going to have to make a decision about where we want to live long term and its looking very likely that its going to be in the country.

My situation is probably different to some on here as I'd only consider moving to the area I grew up in (and thankfully my partner is ok with that) as most of my family and friends still live there which is the main reason I'd want to move back especially when it comes to the stage of us having children. Also I just think my children would have a more enjoyable childhood in the countryside.

Main issue is jobs in our field of work are nearly all in Dublin but hopefully with the move to more remote working then won't need to travel every day plus with lower mortgage only one of us might need to work. I know one working families is very unusual in Dublin nowadays but is still not that unusual in the country.

Snow Garden wrote: »

I wont let you off that easy. You made the assertion that people in rural areas spent longer in their cars commuting to work. I proved you were talking nonsense but of course you will never admit when you're wrong.

Lol, very good. Read back my friend I said that if we moved to the country we'd be more car reliant than I am now! Currently we use bikes and public transport to get around and use the cars at the weekend. You see in the city and suburbs we have trains and buses, there's also cycle lanes.


In rural areas throughout the world there isn't

Snow Garden wrote: »

Here you are again: https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpub...ci/p6cii/p6td/

Not working, fix it and I'll check in later, I don't have time, I'm off West for some wind and waves.

Snow Garden wrote: »

There is also no doubt that going to the beach in Kerry, Mayo, Donegal, Clare, Galway, Sligo is a damn sight better than any seaside in Dublin.
The Irish Sea is not a patch on the Wild Atlantic Way.

Believe me! I've surfed and sailed off the coast of each of these counties and I worked on the WAW initiative when it was developed in Dublin! It's fantastic that you use the destinational marketing name we came up with, shows what a good job we did.



Every sea has unique offerings Snow Garden

I live and farm in rural Cavan.
Just started a job in Cavan town, which is 12 miles away.
My commute is 20 minutes and costs about 15 euro per week, diesel wise.
Wife works in Dublin city centre, 80 miles away.
Her commute is 2 hours 20 minutes.
20 minutes into Cavan, and 2 hours on the 109x.
Her commute costs about 140 euro a week.
You would want to be paying me a serious wage to entice me to do what she does.
In reality, 450 per week in your pocket in Cavan town would be better than 750 in Dublin.

Omackeral wrote: »

Hahah the perfect gif reaction

El_Bee wrote: »

Yeah but aren't you much more likely to be burgled if you live in a rural area?

Not really. I think there are less opportune burglaries but once someone decides to get into your house they will. And once they do they can do more damage before anyone notices.

I Was VB wrote: »

Ever get tired of city life? I know I have, Currently living in south dublin city centre and working in north Dublin, I’m tired of a hour sitting in traffic each way to get to work, tired of paying €3.50 per hour for parking, tired of little scruffs thinking they are gangsters, tired of junkies, cyclists, not having change out of two pints from a tenner (I know it’s been that way for ages) tired of walking Instagram accounts, tired of people looking down thier nose at people who have a €20 less than them in thier pockets, tired of trials by social media, tired of knocked together houses being sold for €500k just because of the postcode*


so that’s why I want to move to Leitrim, nice and quiet, just a few acres of land and a little cottage, potter around the garden, wake up in the morning to the sound of a cock a doodle doo, instead of a cock in a BMW driving in the bus lane. Get away from city life, just me and the country air, and a few retired freedom fighters and Semtex weapons dumps, get a job in a bar for €250 per week, that’s the dream. Anyone ever do it?**

* I realize most of these problems aren’t exclusively city related.

** probably not going to move to Leitrim or the arsehole of Ireland in the immediate future but thinking about it the last while and I need some inspiration.

I actually did this in Carrick on Shannon during the recession. Except I was job seeking at the time so there was no €250 a week job, just €204 a week at the time. Its ok, I'm now paying the social solidarity levy now myself. As far as what I was doing with my time - philosopher / theologian. (an incredibly busy one at that)

The problem with people living rurally is they want the same services as urbanites do. Some rural dwellers want fibre optic broadband, some want a squad car patrolling nearby to deter burglaries, others object to paying more for their phone/broadband even though it costs more to provide their home with a line because their lines are fed by overground poles on private land, some want a bus stop outside of their driveway so they won't have to pay for a taxi, I'm sure others have complained about an ambulance or fire brigade not showing up in time.

We have a very entitled rural population who just don't comprehend how expensive it is to provide services to one-off houses and how heavily subsidised their lifestyles are. These homes are also breeding grounds for parish pump politicians, like the Healy-Raes who exploit this entitled attitude by beating the "Dublin is neglecting us" drum for their own political gain.

We have a very serious problem with one-off housing in this country and something needs to be done about it, they were banned for all but a "locals only" clause a year ago, but it's too little too late. Eircom rolled out broadband to 350k semi-rural one-off houses, if people want fibre optic internet, they should sell their homes and move to semi-rural one covered by Eircom's rural rollout.

OneEightSeven wrote: »

The problem with people living rurally is they want the same services as urbanites do. Some rural dwellers want fibre optic broadband, some want a squad car patrolling nearby to deter burglaries, others object to paying more for their phone/broadband even though it costs more to provide their home with a line because their lines are fed by overground poles on private land, some want a bus stop outside of their driveway so they won't have to pay for a taxi, I'm sure others have complained about an ambulance or fire brigade not showing up in time.

We have a very entitled rural population who just don't comprehend how expensive it is to provide services to one-off houses and how heavily subsidised their lifestyles are.

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The thing is, a lot of the infrastructure is long ago paid for.
The ESB lines are there since the 30's/40's, ( although my mothers home place only got power in the late 50's) and most phone lines since the 1960's.
Roads are mostly 50 years established.

The problems people buying in the country run into are sometimes due to unfamiliarity with basic engineering/science.
They buy a cottage in scenic splendour, but are blind to the fact that its in a hollow, with poor mobile coverage, perhaps with poor drainage, on a steep hill thats inaccessible in frost etc etc.

Its a falsehood to state that rural dwellers want services provided, and dont comprehend how expensive these sre.

In the country, you need line-of-sight to get decent broadband (and a local supplier) and a line of sight of the Astra satellite for TV.
You will be on either a Group Scheme ( local co-op run) or your own spring or bored well.
Group Scheme will cost anything between 150 and 350 a year, a bored well will cost ESB running costs and perhaps a pump engineers call out now and then. If your pump burns out, budget between 700 to a 1000 euro.
If you need to drill a well and set up from scratch, expect to pay anything between 3500 and 5000 euro.
You will have a septic tank. Time will come when attempts will be made to tax both it and your well, but you will probably need to get it emptied every ten years or so.
So what I'm saying is, country living isn't for people who want "all their services provided" for them.
The urban home owner pays these costs in the price of their house, the developer has paid all the Council levies, ESB and eircom and sewage connection costs etc, and passed on the cost.
On the flip side, you have much more freedom and privacy.
A lot depends on your temperment and personality.