Hive Active Heating etc

metricspaces · 09-01-2018 2:31pm

savemejebus wrote: »

Is there a list of Hive approved installers or is it all controlled by Bord Gais? They won't install for Oil boilers according to their site.

Any electrician would be able to install it. You'd install it yourself, it took the Bord Gais guy 5min to install mine and they are not electricians, they are just the guy who services boilers.

savemejebus · 09-01-2018 2:51pm

metricspaces wrote: »

Any electrician would be able to install it. You'd install it yourself, it took the Bord Gais guy 5min to install mine and they are not electricians, they are just the guy who services boilers.

Thats good. I just have no clue about that sort of stuff and while the instructions seem ok, i'm nervous to mess up anything. Plus I was hoping there would be an SEAI approved installer so that i can try to get the hive under the heating controls grant.

bod71 · 09-01-2018 9:57pm

savemejebus wrote: »

Is there a list of Hive approved installers or is it all controlled by Bord Gais? They won't install for Oil boilers according to their site.

I got my hive stats installed by bord gais, and i have an oil boiler.

savemejebus · 09-01-2018 11:30pm

bod71 wrote: »

I got my hive stats installed by bord gais, and i have an oil boiler.

Interesting, on the hive ireland site i had selected professional installation and when I clicked to say I had an oil boiler it told me that professional installation was not available for oil.

metricspaces · 10-01-2018 12:34am

savemejebus wrote: »

Interesting, on the hive ireland site i had selected professional installation and when I clicked to say I had an oil boiler it told me that professional installation was not available for oil.

You really are not getting anything "extra" by getting Bord Gais to install. I would say the use of "professional installation" is a very loose use of the word professional.

I got it half price, so was worth it. If I didn't have this deal I'd just buy from Amazon and install myself or get electrician to install.

The Bord Gais installer actually failed to connect one wire in one of my controllers. I didn't notice that one of my zones was not working until he left. He tried to blame electrician who was in the house at the same time. Then said I'd have to pay a call out charge if it turned out to be electricians fault. He called out, spent about 30min trying to figure out what was wrong, before eventually realising he didn't connect up a wire correctly.

The Bord Gais installer won't touch your existing thermostats. He'll just tell you to turn them up to max setting. I had an electrician in the house at same time as Bord Gais installer called, electrician removed the existing thermostats and changed the wires so it was a straight through connection (i.e. as if it was set to max). He then placed the new Hive thermostat holder in the place where the existing thermostat was....so he finished off the job properly that the Bord Gais does not do.

rkdub · 14-01-2018 12:05am

THE ALM wrote: »

Worth looking at alright, personally find it much easier to work with, currently have it running on a Rpi.

a few days with it now. it does look much more promising than i expected originally.. thanks!

THE ALM · 14-01-2018 2:36pm

rkdub wrote: »

a few days with it now. it does look much more promising than i expected originally.. thanks!

No problem, yeah once set up it is good to go and an updated version should be in the works for the next update of Home Assistant and developers are continually working at it.

Ghostrider7 · 15-01-2018 4:37pm

Quintis wrote: »

Has anyone tried the Hive active smart plug?

I have a few of the Hive smart plugs and light bulbs, bought them in the sales. All work great, no problems and all connect easily enough with Google Home.

I stuck with smart plugs for the Hive as you can only have a certain amount of devices (11 I think) with the Virgin Media router before you have to upgrade. As the Hive devices all connect to one hub you can have as many as you like and it appears as one device unlike something like TP Link smart plugs with energy monitoring, each one of these smart plugs count as one.

I find if you add any new devices to the Hive then to connect them to Google Home you need to unlink Hive in the Google Home app and reconnect them.

DublinGuy11 · 15-01-2018 9:00pm

Quick question, recently got Hive installed. I have schedule set up whereby heating and hot water come on at the same time, twice a day, morning and evening time. The last few days however, everything has been fine in the morning but in the evening, there has been no hot water in the taps even though the app says the hot water is on, as per the schedule. It is a brand new boiler in we have got as well so unlikely that is the problem. It feels like a setting issue or something, considering everything is working fine in the morning. Has anyone any suggestions on what the solution to this matter could be?

metricspaces · 15-01-2018 11:20pm

There's a HIVE helpline you can ring so maybe they can help if you don't find an answer here.

I'd check if the controller lights up and gas comes on when activating hot water from App manually.

If this works I'd imagine it's a problem with your schedule. Then try resetting schedule to default/deleting your schedule and setting it up again.

selsun · 18-01-2018 8:11pm

My boiler heats either taps or rads, never both at the same time. Maybe check if yours isn't same. Morning hot water maybe left over from night.

mel123 · 19-01-2018 1:31pm

Pick your brains guys. I put Hive on manually mostly. Is this correct, in that, heating is left on manually, once the house reaches that temperature, the heating goes off.....and stays off. So say i leave it on all night at 18, the house reaches 18, heating goes off, but temp of the house drops to say 14, heating doesnt then go back on. Is this correct?
Fine if it is, I just want to make sure its not a glitch with mine and I dont need to fix something.

THE ALM · 19-01-2018 3:15pm

mel123 wrote: »

Pick your brains guys. I put Hive on manually mostly. Is this correct, in that, heating is left on manually, once the house reaches that temperature, the heating goes off.....and stays off. So say i leave it on all night at 18, the house reaches 18, heating goes off, but temp of the house drops to say 14, heating doesnt then go back on. Is this correct?
Fine if it is, I just want to make sure its not a glitch with mine and I dont need to fix something.

I would have thought that if it is just left on manual mode that it would maintain the temperature that it is set to i.e. 18 therefore when it drops below this the boiler would start up and boost the heat again to 18.

squonkie · 20-01-2018 3:06pm

I normally use it on manual as well and it maintains it at the temp I set. I can hear the boiler switching on and off

fullstop · 20-01-2018 4:59pm

Is it possible to get different thread sizes on the bulbs? The website only offers screw or bayonet, but no size.

THE ALM · 20-01-2018 5:13pm

fullstop wrote: »

Is it possible to get different thread sizes on the bulbs? The website only offers screw or bayonet, but no size.

Think that is your only choice I'm afraid.

Ghostrider7 · 20-01-2018 6:08pm

fullstop wrote: »

Is it possible to get different thread sizes on the bulbs? The website only offers screw or bayonet, but no size.

The screw version is an E27 screw base bulb which I think from memory is 27mm although I haven't measured it.

sadhbhie · 21-01-2018 10:09am

Just wondering if anyone has bought from amazon and self installed recently? Reading back I know there used to be problems with registering - has that been resolved now hive are selling directly to Ireland?

rkdub · 22-01-2018 8:26am

sadhbhie wrote: »

Just wondering if anyone has bought from amazon and self installed recently? Reading back I know there used to be problems with registering - has that been resolved now hive are selling directly to Ireland?

I got a set at a good price on black Friday from amazon uk. I installed and they are working great for me.

fullstop · 24-01-2018 11:39pm

Do people generally buy the hardware outright and pay the lower monthly fee, or rent for 24 months until the hardware is paid off that way?

THE ALM · 27-02-2018 5:57pm

Notice Hive have released a couple of gu10 bulbs to the range for those invested in the Eco system. Cheaper alternative to Hue. New hub 360 must be due release soon as the option is now there to add it to the app.

THE ALM · 06-03-2018 9:43am

I see in the new hive app update that it is possible to add the hue bulbs to the hive app, have just added ours. They are sure pushing updates and new features regularly, would hope that trv's will be in offing soon, did see somewhere that they are under review.

mel123 · 06-03-2018 12:56pm

I have the hive bulbs, got them before Christmas when the sale was on, and only got around to putting them up (nightmare shades that have to be screwed off), and find them pretty bad. Ive them in two separate rooms, and they flash when i turn them on, last night it wouldnt go on at all. In one room i had to take it down cause it was buzzing (granted it could be the fitting). Anyone else have problems with them? Like if it was one, i would say its something to do with the fitting, but its both rooms bulbs are flashing when turned on, another rooms was the buzzing sound, bit of a coincidence.

lawred2 · 06-03-2018 2:11pm

BoardsMember wrote: »

Am I right in thinking that if I wanted to control two heating zones plus hot water via Hive I would need:

Active Heating and Hot Water: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B011B3J6B8/ref=abs_brd_tag_dp?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE
and
Hive 2 - Active Heating Multizone: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B018E1SHQU/ref=abs_brd_tag_dp?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Hoping either/both come up as deals on Amazon over the next few days!

BG currently doing an offer of Hive Active installation..

We have three zones - upstairs/downstairs + water.. Would Hive Active as installed by BG be insufficient for three zones?

THE ALM · 06-03-2018 2:27pm

mel123 wrote: »

I have the hive bulbs, got them before Christmas when the sale was on, and only got around to putting them up (nightmare shades that have to be screwed off), and find them pretty bad. Ive them in two separate rooms, and they flash when i turn them on, last night it wouldnt go on at all. In one room i had to take it down cause it was buzzing (granted it could be the fitting). Anyone else have problems with them? Like if it was one, i would say its something to do with the fitting, but its both rooms bulbs are flashing when turned on, another rooms was the buzzing sound, bit of a coincidence.

I have half a dozen of the bulbs and no problem with any of them, some e27 and some b22 fitting in dimmable and cool to warm white.

I find there customer support good to deal with so might be worth shooting of an email to them.

THE ALM · 06-03-2018 2:30pm

Those looking at Hive, Heatmerchants have a deal on the until the end of the month if you know someone with an account, your plumber etc.

8kvscdpglqnyr4 · 16-04-2018 10:17pm

Just wondering if someone can give some instruction on a self-install of a Hive.

I have 3 zones + hot water. There is a thermostat on each of the floors connected to the controller.
I have Hive purchased for 1 zone and hot water and 2 other Hives for the other 2 zones.

I have one of these installed already and want to replace it:
https://www.ephcontrols.com/section/4-zone-programmer-2/

The thermostats looks like this:
71-0b94qtML._SX522_.jpg

I'm looking to replace it with the Hive system.

I'm fairly comfortable with these sorts of things but I just want to make sure I will get the job done.

Any help greatly apprecited

BigAl81 · 20-04-2018 10:52pm

Hi Divil,

I had the exact same controller on my wall and 2 zones + hot water. I replaced the old system with Hive. I bought it direct from Hive and it came with installation.

Can't help on how to install it, but I can say it worked for me with the exact same equipment as I had.

The only thing I'd check with Hive is if it can handle 4 zones, it might not? Their number is on their website and I find them good on the phone.

Al.

8kvscdpglqnyr4 · 23-04-2018 9:07am

Thanks Al. I've confirmed the Hive does support 4 zones.

Can anyone else comment on installation? I'm thinking about doing it myself. Any advice?

WeleaseWoderick · 03-05-2018 10:19am

Got the Hive Active Heating and Hot Water Thermostat installed recently and the system works fine locally but I cannot get the app to discover the thermostat.

The app has picked up the Hub OK and the Hub's LED is showing that it is connected to the thermostat (solid green LED), but the app can't seem to see the thermostat.

Has anyone had this issue before? I have strong wifi coverage in the areas where all three components are placed.

THE ALM · 03-05-2018 12:19pm

WeleaseWoderick wrote: »

Got the Hive Active Heating and Hot Water Thermostat installed recently and the system works fine locally but I cannot get the app to discover the thermostat.

The app has picked up the Hub OK and the Hub's LED is showing that it is connected to the thermostat (solid green LED), but the app can't seem to see the thermostat.

Has anyone had this issue before? I have strong wifi coverage in the areas where all three components are placed.

Does the thermostat show as connected? The green led on the hub means that it is connected to the internet ok.

Is the green light showing on the receiver also?

Have you installed the device on the app?

The connection from the hub to receiver to thermostat works by zigbee so the wifi coverage will not matter.

kennethsmyth · 03-05-2018 4:12pm

Griffin Mealy Refrigeration wrote: »

Just wondering if someone can give some instruction on a self-install of a Hive.

I have 3 zones + hot water. There is a thermostat on each of the floors connected to the controller.
I have Hive purchased for 1 zone and hot water and 2 other Hives for the other 2 zones.

I have one of these installed already and want to replace it:
https://www.ephcontrols.com/section/4-zone-programmer-2/

The thermostats looks like this:

I'm looking to replace it with the Hive system.

I'm fairly comfortable with these sorts of things but I just want to make sure I will get the job done.

Any help greatly apprecited

Have the exact same programmer and use two nests to give me 3 zones (same idea as the hives)

You don't need to get rid of programmer only put all to on. I kept it so if the nests decide to become an issue in the future i can kill them off, small bit of rewiring a junction box and i'm back in business with a simple timer programmer - it just allows for more options

Choice to keep or get rid of the programmer (personally I'd keep it)

WeleaseWoderick · 03-05-2018 7:53pm

THE ALM wrote: »

Does the thermostat show as connected? The green led on the hub means that it is connected to the internet ok.

Is the green light showing on the receiver also?

Have you installed the device on the app?

The connection from the hub to receiver to thermostat works by zigbee so the wifi coverage will not matter.

Managed to get it working finally!

Everything was showing as connected but I put the receiver into pairing mode again, factory reset the thermostat and reconnected the hub.

App found the thermostat straight away then.

BigAl81 · 03-05-2018 9:52pm

Just tested mine with Google Home, very handy, can say "Hey Google, set the downstairs to 21 degrees" or "turn off the downstairs" etc and it all works well

lawred2 · 04-05-2018 9:11am

BigAl81 wrote: »

Just tested mine with Google Home, very handy, can say "Hey Google, set the downstairs to 21 degrees" or "turn off the downstairs" etc and it all works well

Nice

That's good to know.

Haven't nailed my colors to the mast yet as to whether to go with Google or Amazon.

THE ALM · 31-08-2018 10:17am

Just noticed a new setting under thermostat settings for 'Ready By' which seems to work by having the temperature at the desired level when the time is set rather than just come on at the set time, a bit like the learning feature on Nest.

the-island-man · 03-02-2019 1:54am

Hi,

I am having trouble determining what type of receiver I need for the hive thermostat. The one that just controls the heat or the one for heat and hot water.

The current thermostat I have for my oil boiler when switched on heats the radiators and the hot water but there is no separate control for just hot water on the front of the thermostat.

As you can see from one of the pictures attached, there are four wires into the thermostat :
L in, N in, N out and L out.

There is also a separate thermostat upstairs that just controls the element in the Immersion cylinder.

I have studied the self install guide but I am still unsure:

https://www.hivehome.com/img/attachments/Hive_Thermostat_Installation_Guide.pdf

maxamillius · 03-02-2019 11:04am

the-island-man wrote: »

Hi,

I am having trouble determining what type of receiver I need for the hive thermostat. The one that just controls the heat or the one for heat and hot water.

The current thermostat I have for my oil boiler when switched on heats the radiators and the hot water but there is no separate control for just hot water on the front of the thermostat.

As you can see from one of the pictures attached, there are four wires into the thermostat :
L in, N in, N out and L out.

There is also a separate thermostat upstairs that just controls the element in the Immersion cylinder.

I have studied the self install guide but I am still unsure:

https://www.hivehome.com/img/attachments/Hive_Thermostat_Installation_Guide.pdf

So that picture is a mechanical timer, not a thermostat.

The timer is upstairs just controls your immersion,there is no thermostat on that except for one that slides into the element.

Can you take a picture of your boiler?

D12C · 25-02-2019 6:17pm

Does anyone know if it's possible to set up notifications for Hive i.e. when the heating is turned on? Either through the app itself or another app? Thanks

A320 · 26-02-2019 5:04pm

D12C wrote: »

Does anyone know if it's possible to set up notifications for Hive i.e. when the heating is turned on? Either through the app itself or another app? Thanks

IFTTT does I think....

THE ALM · 09-05-2019 11:01am

TRV's can now be pre-ordered, working out at about £40 each for a 5 pack so not bad price wise.

mel123 · 09-05-2019 1:28pm

THE ALM wrote: »

TRV's can now be pre-ordered, working out at about £40 each for a 5 pack so not bad price wise.

I think this is expensive! I LOVE my hive, but for the sake of remembering to turn on rads in spare rooms i think they are over priced. Maybe i just dont have a lot of use for my spare room though and thats why i think that.

pm1977x · 13-05-2019 11:52pm

mel123 wrote: »

I think this is expensive! I LOVE my hive, but for the sake of remembering to turn on rads in spare rooms i think they are over priced. Maybe i just dont have a lot of use for my spare room though and thats why i think that.

Agreed, but I foresee my resolve breaking once there's a price reduction or a sale event, I'll definitely pick at least one up to tinker with, the TRV in my spare room is hard to access behind the bed so...any excuse!

scamalert · 21-06-2019 3:43pm

prob noob question but just gotten Hive installed today with new boiler, ive setup schedules on hive thermostat , but i cant figure boost option, once i go to select quick boost, eventually im thrown option quick cool ?

THE ALM · 21-06-2019 3:47pm

scamalert wrote: »

prob noob question but just gotten Hive installed today with new boiler, ive setup schedules on hive thermostat , but i cant figure boost option, once i go to select quick boost, eventually im thrown option quick cool ?

Yeah, for some reason they now call it quick cool but this is the boost option, can cycle through from 30mins to 6 hours I think. You can also boost it with the buttons on top of the thermostat.

scamalert · 21-06-2019 4:13pm

THE ALM wrote: »

Yeah, for some reason they now call it quick cool but this is the boost option, can cycle through from 30mins to 6 hours I think. You can also boost it with the buttons on top of the thermostat.

thx for reply know of the buttons, but wanted to see in app and while it says quick boost, then where time setup comes in turns to quick cool. got app on another phone older Samsung and it says boost :cool:

VonLuck · 03-09-2019 10:19pm

I'm thinking of getting Hive for a two bed apartment to control the radiators and hot water separately. Is it worth getting for small-ish apartments, and if so, is there anything in particular I should know before taking the plunge into a smart heating system?

scamalert · 04-09-2019 11:09am

VonLuck wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting Hive for a two bed apartment to control the radiators and hot water separately. Is it worth getting for small-ish apartments, and if so, is there anything in particular I should know before taking the plunge into a smart heating system?

I wouldnt have clue what way its setup is it block of apartments, is boiler in your hot press ? or just a knob on a wall to control heating on/off ?

I have it setup on semi d came with new gas boiler - insulation is crap in general for house, so few C drop can easily be felt.

running heating for half an hour bring temps up about 0.5/0.7c in the house so its not bad.

in general you can control it mainly off your phone and set whatever routines that suit you, ex id run how water for 15 mins before someone comes home of work at night then another half an hour in the morning - that routine id use until its still most days 18-20c in house.

aside installation cost i cant see much downfall, specially in smaller apartment as you say it would work more effective as less space to heat so temps would be up faster - of course usual insulation of apartment counts as well.

as ive yet to test it fully once winter hits to see average temps in house and how often ill need to run it. but mobile aspect is great, to turn it on from where ever you might be, to kick in heating or hot water before your back.

Keedowah · 04-09-2019 11:26am

VonLuck wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting Hive for a two bed apartment to control the radiators and hot water separately. Is it worth getting for small-ish apartments, and if so, is there anything in particular I should know before taking the plunge into a smart heating system?

I would. I have it in my home for the last two years and find it extremely handy, particularly when away and want to come back to a warm house / hot water.

turniton · 11-09-2019 12:39pm

kennethsmyth wrote: »

Have the exact same programmer and use two nests to give me 3 zones (same idea as the hives)

You don't need to get rid of programmer only put all to on. I kept it so if the nests decide to become an issue in the future i can kill them off, small bit of rewiring a junction box and i'm back in business with a simple timer programmer - it just allows for more options

Choice to keep or get rid of the programmer (personally I'd keep it)

Sorry guys. I have an EPH R17 (1 zone) manual control, that I use to program heating times. let s say I get the hive. I ll leave the EPH control ON and than with the Smart Phone I can control heating time through the Hiive (sorry I am new to this)

Hive Active Heating etc

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