Planned Terror attack Germany

Blueshoe · 23-03-2019 12:20am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

I dont actually see the point of threads like these. And sane person knows what's going on. Anyone saying it gets slandered. In ireland the troubles where because ira wanted a united ireland. These attacks etc are carried out by people who don't want anything. They just want death for many reasons. So you cant talk to them. You can try change there thinking but that's hard because if you mention what they are thinking or stand for your in trouble.

Well I don't think that's true
Islamic terrorists might think they are taking the war to the enemy or non believers
White supremacists might think that they are saving the western world from invaders in their lands.

The reality of it is they are just shooting or blowing up innocent people who are on their way home from work or out doing a bit of shopping.

Auguste Comte · 23-03-2019 12:20am

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Just more whataboutery bla, bla, bla from you again.

Did the IRA attack Germany, nope.
Did the IRA attack Holland , nope.
Did the IRA attack England, yep.

What did England do with the Irish who they thought were involved and had intelligence on?

I think you will find that the provos did actually carry out attacks in Germany and the Netherlands.

Atoms for Peace · 23-03-2019 12:21am

The IRA did attack BA bases in Germany. But at that time the likes of the Red army faction we're doing similar attacks.

Working class heroes · 23-03-2019 12:21am

It was those giant rats. Dirty foreign fcukers invading our lovely peaceful Island. Or Germany or somewhere...

Am I doing this right? Am I racist enough?

goose2005 · 23-03-2019 12:21am

NIMAN wrote: »

But it appears that in nearly all the cases the culprits are known about.

You rarely see a terror event when the person was totally unknown to authorities.

But there are so many that nothing can really be done. European police aren't going to intern 50,000 people and even if they did it would just create more terrorists.

goose2005 · 23-03-2019 12:22am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

I dont actually see the point of threads like these. And sane person knows what's going on. Anyone saying it gets slandered. In ireland the troubles where because ira wanted a united ireland. These attacks etc are carried out by people who don't want anything. They just want death for many reasons. So you cant talk to them. You can try change there thinking but that's hard because if you mention what they are thinking or stand for your in trouble.

they are very clear about what they want, they want the whole world to be like ISIS or Saudi Arabia.

Mr.Crinklewood · 23-03-2019 12:28am

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Just more whataboutery bla, bla, bla from you again.

Did the IRA attack Germany, nope.
Did the IRA attack Holland , nope.
Did the IRA attack England, yep.

What did England do with the Irish who they thought were involved and had intelligence on?

Christ at least get your facts right...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Nick_Spanos_and_Stephen_Melrose

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osnabr%C3%BCck_mortar_attack

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Hazell_(IRA_murder_victim)

Actually forgot Belgium

https://www.apnews.com/1952cb8550ad1d291ad70cb3618d40ed

...

Now if you are just talking about deporting/denying access to known terrorists...that's a different story...

Checkmate19 · 23-03-2019 12:42am

goose2005 wrote: »

they are very clear about what they want, they want the whole world to be like ISIS or Saudi Arabia.

So they believe in some sort of idealogy of a certain religion which we must not mention. So why are there not more saying this is not correct rather than you cant mention a certain religion. Imo religion is the root of all evil. You can believe in any fairytale etc you want but i think people have the right to express why they dont believe in fairytales. Why should one religion have such impunity to any form of critism or ridicule. But we all know the answer to that. So boards should stop beating around the bush and close this thread as there is no proper discussion about this just scared talk.

Sweetemotion · 23-03-2019 12:42am

Mr.Crinklewood wrote: »

Christ at least get your facts right...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killings_of_Nick_Spanos_and_Stephen_Melrose

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osnabr%C3%BCck_mortar_attack

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heidi_Hazell_(IRA_murder_victim)

Actually forgot Belgium

https://www.apnews.com/1952cb8550ad1d291ad70cb3618d40ed

...

Now if you are just talking about deporting/denying access to known terrorists...that's a different story...

Again I ask did they attack Germany or Holland?

Blueshoe · 23-03-2019 12:52am

Just to add to my post. News out that a Jewish Dutch father and son have been stabbed in Amsterdam by an Egyptian man who when arrested claimed he did it in the name of the prophet Muhammad.

Things are getting out of hand

how.gareth · 23-03-2019 12:59am

Blueshoe wrote: »

Just to add to my post. News out that a Jewish Dutch father and son have been stabbed in Amsterdam by an Egyptian man who when arrested claimed he did it in the name of the prophet Muhammad.

Things are getting out of hand

Things are only getting out of hand now?? After a double stabbing? Jesus man have you just woken up from a coma!

Checkmate19 · 23-03-2019 1:02am

Does anyone question when these terror attacks happen why do they happen. Its all disaffected youths radicalized. Radicalized by a group of people who believe in an ideology that you cant challenge. So how do you stop this. This discussion really needs to be had. Because if you don't it will continue. People need to have he balls to stand up to this and challenge it. Call a spade a spade and allow free speech. Mocking religion happens all the time. Father ted etc so why is a certain religion given a pass. We all know why and thats a hugh part of problem. The scumbag in new zealand is a scumbag.

Checkmate19 · 23-03-2019 1:03am

And before any says anything i think all religions are crap.

Blueshoe · 23-03-2019 1:03am

how.gareth wrote: »

Things are only getting out of hand now?? After a double stabbing? Jesus man have you just woken up from a coma!

I didn't realise incidents were turning into a daily occurrence

MonkieSocks · 23-03-2019 1:06am

Checkmate19;.............In ireland the troubles where because ira wanted a united ireland.

Wrong there.

The trouble initially started because Catholics in NI were being discriminated against and treated as 2nd class citizens.

When Catholics began to be murdered by Loyalist paramilitaries and British soldiers.....the IRA responded with similar methods

The call for a united Ireland came later.

DS86DS · 23-03-2019 1:08am

Where's the big mode note threatening to ban anybody who dares step out of line? :rolleyes:

Checkmate19 · 23-03-2019 1:11am

MonkieSocks wrote: »

Wrong there.

The trouble initially started because Catholics in NI were being discriminated against and treated as 2nd class citizens.

When Catholics began to be murdered by Loyalist paramilitaries and British soldiers.....the IRA responded with similar methods

The call for a united Ireland came later.

I think maybe that's true to an extent. Ill give you that. Bit late to be arguing the toss on that. Still think its about all ireland. It was building and this was always going to happen i think. I dont think religion played the major part.

how.gareth · 23-03-2019 1:14am

DS86DS wrote: »

Where's the big mode note threatening to ban anybody who dares step out of line? :rolleyes:

It’s early days yet brah!

MonkieSocks · 23-03-2019 1:21am

DS86DS wrote: »

Where's the big mode note threatening to ban anybody who dares step out of line? :rolleyes:

here it is

Sweetemotion · 23-03-2019 2:48am

Checkmate19 wrote: »

I think maybe that's true to an extent. Ill give you that. Bit late to be arguing the toss on that. Still think its about all ireland. It was building and this was always going to happen i think. I dont think religion played the major part.

I'm lost for words.

Mr.Crinklewood · 23-03-2019 7:39am

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Again I ask did they attack Germany or Holland?

Yes, as myself and two other posters have already said.

They murdered people in Germany and Holland ....and Belgium.

I was concerned when you didn't know these facts beforehand, Just getting suspicious now.

Could you reply to my questions please?

eagle eye · 23-03-2019 12:55pm

Blueshoe wrote:

All of these threads go the same route with people arguing. Does anyone actually have a solution or an idea of what can be done to prevent or dissuade terrorists from carrying out these attacks? Whether they are Islamic, white supremacist or any other type.

Or am I just being naive?

Yes I have but you won't like it.
Solution is to end the internet, smartphones etc.

Blueshoe · 23-03-2019 6:14pm

eagle eye wrote: »

Yes I have but you won't like it.
Solution is to end the internet, smartphones etc.

So we don't hear about attacks anymore? Similar to closing your eyes and cover your ears

The Capo · 23-03-2019 6:17pm

Part and Parcel as the man once said.

corminators · 23-03-2019 6:20pm

Generally in history of you mix two completely different types of people with different value systems whose basic values go against each other it don't work out so well.

biko · 23-03-2019 6:28pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Every single thread like this has some clown trying to derail the topic with whataboutery about the IRA.

Maybe you can can explain to me your reasoning for posting so. Are we just supposed to ignore what's happening in Europe and bend over when it arrives on our shores?

Because you know but, but,but the IRA bla, bla, bla.

Indeed, I think no-one denies the threat current IRA is, but to bring it into Jihadist threads is to devalue the Jihadi threat.

Like I read somewhere, yes terrorists kill a lot of people but more people die from slipping in their bathtub.
Ok, so should I now ignore the rising Jihadi threat and stop taking baths?

Boggles · 23-03-2019 6:30pm

biko wrote: »

Indeed, I think no-one denies the threat current IRA is, but to bring it into Jihadist threads is to devalue the Jihadi threat.

Like I read somewhere, yes terrorists kill a lot of people but more people die from slipping in their bathtub.
Ok, so should I now ignore the rising Jihadi threat and stop taking baths?

Staircases are the real killer.

Also baths? Do you live in Downton Abbey?

biko · 23-03-2019 6:55pm

Boggles wrote: »

Also baths? Do you live in Downton Abbey?

Perchance I do

eagle eye · 23-03-2019 7:12pm

Blueshoe wrote:

So we don't hear about attacks anymore? Similar to closing your eyes and cover your ears

Have a look at a graph of terrorist attacks, deaths and injuries. Then go check when internet became a common thing and you'll see a spike and continued growth as internet improves.
There are more terrorists that ever before because of social media and advanced online tracking of susceptible individuals.

The_Kew_Tour · 23-03-2019 9:07pm

Only for the Internet Police most likely would not be stopping a average of 2 attacks happening every 3 days

Planned Terror attack Germany

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