Philips LED Gu10

loremolis · 08-04-2014 10:19am #1

4 Philips 4watt GU10's for £19.39

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-Watt-Energy-Saving/dp/B00GQVXEU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396948251&sr=8-1&keywords=philips+led+gu10

dodzy · 08-04-2014 11:31am

loremolis wrote: »

4 Philips 4watt GU10's for £19.39

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-Watt-Energy-Saving/dp/B00GQVXEU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396948251&sr=8-1&keywords=philips+led+gu10

RRP: £78. I don't think so.

L1011 · 08-04-2014 11:45am

Less than €9 each individually here so the RRP is complete fatansyland. Still a decent price, but not 75% off.

moodrater · 08-04-2014 11:45am

loremolis wrote: »

4 Philips 4watt GU10's for £19.39

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-Watt-Energy-Saving/dp/B00GQVXEU0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1396948251&sr=8-1&keywords=philips+led+gu10

Just fyi to interested parties 165 lumen is not 35 watt replacement, its around 25w, 35w is 230lumen.

sweetie · 08-04-2014 12:02pm

Got a set to try. Looking for a dimmable equivalent also.

dodzy · 08-04-2014 12:16pm

I'm still waiting for the 7w Philips Master to move into "affordable territory" :mad:

fleet · 08-04-2014 12:40pm

dodzy wrote: »

I'm still waiting for the 7w Philips Master to move into "affordable territory" :mad:

I have the 5.5W and they're nice.

The solution to low wattage LED not supplying enough light it more bulbs though. Throw twice the number of lower wattage bulbs at a given lighting scenario and you'll get the same light at more even coverage, with the advantage of mixing light colours if you like.

ted1 · 08-04-2014 12:44pm

Eurosales do Philips master 4W for about 8 euro. these are dimmable and have a higher lumens.

dodzy · 08-04-2014 12:45pm

clintondaly wrote: »

The 2 Euro shops do 2 X GU10 for guess what ? 2 Euros
Dunnes also usually have them in stock in packs of 5 for less than a tenner(phillips ones)

Yeah, but they're halogen, not LED. My house is full of the little bstrds and I can't wait to get shot of them. Most inefficient bulb ever, with a shocking life span if regularly used.

ted1 · 08-04-2014 12:45pm

clintondaly wrote: »

The 2 Euro shops do 2 X GU10 for guess what ? 2 Euros
Dunnes also usually have them in stock in packs of 5 for less than a tenner(phillips ones)

They are Halogens and are to expensive to run, if they were free I wouldn't take them off their hands.

the pay back on LED GU10's is months not years.

dodzy · 08-04-2014 12:50pm

ted1 wrote: »

Eurosales do Philips master 4W for about 8 euro. these are dimmable and have a higher lumens.

Yeah, unfortunately the 50w equivalent ( which started its life as a 7w, then went to 6w and now its at 5.5w (dimmable) - don't ask me why ), is retailing at just under €15 a pop. Still too bloody expensive, although I should really start swapping out 4 at a time.

sweetie · 08-04-2014 12:59pm

ted1 wrote: »

Eurosales do Philips master 4W for about 8 euro. these are dimmable and have a higher lumens.

same as this Ted?

Scruff · 08-04-2014 4:21pm

i'm new to this gu 10 style bulbs, seems to have at least 3 different types in my house with one in particular build very pale, dim white....
Anyone know if this one is any good? seemd to be high lumen for a led:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimmable-brightest-downlight-currently-available/dp/B006S29VTA

dodzy · 08-04-2014 6:14pm

Scruff wrote: »

i'm new to this gu 10 style bulbs, seems to have at least 3 different types in my house with one in particular build very pale, dim white....
Anyone know if this one is any good? seemd to be high lumen for a led:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimmable-brightest-downlight-currently-available/dp/B006S29VTA

There are an abundance of LEDs on the market. I ordered 4 from China for approx 30€. 2 have failed already after 2-3 months use. The philips master range get good feedback and have a very long life expectancy so my next punt will be on them. Those Amazon ones, well its up to you but i'd be steering clear.

ted1 · 08-04-2014 8:19pm

Scruff wrote: »

i'm new to this gu 10 style bulbs, seems to have at least 3 different types in my house with one in particular build very pale, dim white....
Anyone know if this one is any good? seemd to be high lumen for a led:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dimmable-brightest-downlight-currently-available/dp/B006S29VTA

Personally I'm not a fan if cluster LEDs. There old technology with poor heat sinks.

Zonda999 · 08-04-2014 8:30pm

At least they're saying an average life of 10,000 hours. Some still claim "50,000" hours which is total BS. The LEDs individually may last 50,000 Hours in test conditioins, not in real world applications life this

TerrorFirmer · 08-04-2014 8:54pm

http://www.woodiesdiy.com/Product/TCP-LED-GU10-5W-1Pack/22464/3.2.12#.U0TED1deyiM

Seems OK value. E18 for 3 with the offer.

ted1 · 08-04-2014 8:54pm

Zonda999 wrote: »

At least they're saying an average life of 10,000 hours. Some still claim "50,000" hours which is total BS. The LEDs individually may last 50,000 Hours in test conditioins, not in real world applications life this

I reckon that some might. I use do be involved in R & D and accelerated life testing and the testing is pretty good.

there Solid state so no mechanical part or filaments to fail. as long as the Power supply doesn't fluctuate they should be ok

moodrater · 08-04-2014 9:12pm

ted1 wrote: »

I reckon that some might. I use do be involved in R & D and accelerated life testing and the testing is pretty good.

there Solid state so no mechanical part or filaments to fail. as long as the Power supply doesn't fluctuate they should be ok

Like everything chinese it will likely be the woeful electrolytic capacitors that will go not the leds although I suspect the leds in the one linked to above are being grossly overdriven. Overdriven leds, high RDSon fets, no heatsink fins, no potting compound = hot fets + hot electrolytics = premature failure.

Odyssey 2005 · 08-04-2014 11:18pm

Ikea do these for €5.00 each

ted1 · 08-04-2014 11:35pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Ikea do these for €5.00 each

I can vouch for the IKEA globe led lamps. 5.5w and lights the room well

moodrater · 08-04-2014 11:56pm

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Ikea do these for €5.00 each

Ikea ones are conservatively rated at 200lm too so even better and in tests they are better than that: http://www.olino.org/us/articles/2013/12/06/ikea-ledare-led-lamp-gu10-4w-200lm-ww

ted1 · 09-04-2014 12:31am

moodrater wrote: »

Ikea ones are conservatively rated at 200lm too so even better and in tests they are better than that: http://www.olino.org/us/articles/2013/12/06/ikea-ledare-led-lamp-gu10-4w-200lm-ww

Didn't expect the power factor to be so poor.

moodrater · 09-04-2014 2:04am

ted1 wrote: »

Didn't expect the power factor to be so poor.

About the same as a cfl, Philips Corepro is marginally worse: http://www.olino.org/us/articles/2013/10/18/philips-gu10-4w-245lm

jprboy · 09-04-2014 5:07pm

ted1 wrote: »

Eurosales do Philips master 4W for about 8 euro. these are dimmable and have a higher lumens.

That's not including VAT, though.

Got 13 of these from Euro Sales in March 2013 and reckon they have already paid for themselves.

ted1 · 09-04-2014 5:24pm

8.16 is the price i paid inclusive of VAT.

jprboy · 09-04-2014 10:01pm

ted1 wrote: »

8.16 is the price i paid inclusive of VAT.

Were you buying in bulk and/or are you in the trade?

ted1 · 09-04-2014 10:14pm

jprboy wrote: »

Were you buying in bulk and/or are you in the trade?

No I just bought 8. I sent my wife down to get them. No trade price giving.

dingding · 06-05-2014 12:43am

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-GU10-Perfect-White/dp/B00BQAVLVA/

Here is 10 for about 30 Euro. You will need parcel motel as they will not post to ROI.

hfallada · 06-05-2014 12:46am

Eurosales are very cheap for Phillips goods. You can get the bathroom/kitchen double U-shaped,flat CFLs for around €2.50 and they are longer life and more efficient than retail ones. And they are about half the price of any ware chain

wotswattage · 08-05-2014 6:53pm

dingding wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-GU10-Perfect-White/dp/B00BQAVLVA/

Here is 10 for about 30 Euro. You will need parcel motel as they will not post to ROI.

I ordered them last night.
Work out at €3.70 per bulb all in -incl parcel motel.

dingding · 08-05-2014 10:05pm

Ordered as well. They will be in the motel in the morning.

dingding · 09-05-2014 12:18am

Ordered them on the 6th when I first saw them and they have checked into the motel and in transit

Just confirming to a previous poster that I purchased as well

Access · 09-05-2014 8:15pm

ted1 wrote: »

I can vouch for the IKEA globe led lamps. 5.5w and lights the room well

+1

Have one to test in a table lamp shade and gives out same light as a bog standard 60w bulb and same colour temp. Very happy with it but can only get them in screw type and not bc

moodrater · 09-05-2014 9:08pm

Access wrote: »

+1

Have one to test in a table lamp shade and gives out same light as a bog standard 60w bulb and same colour temp. Very happy with it but can only get them in screw type and not bc

You can get adapters on ebay/amazon, I paid about 50c each when I bought 10 the es bulbs are always cheaper so definitely worth it in the end.

dingding · 09-05-2014 9:09pm

Just got the 10 pack from amazon today. They are great bulbs with great light

Davy · 10-05-2014 11:33am

dingding wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-GU10-Perfect-White/dp/B00BQAVLVA/

Here is 10 for about 30 Euro. You will need parcel motel as they will not post to ROI.

Thats a good price. Just to anyone who has dimmer switches, theses ones aren't dimmable like the masterLED range.

clickhere · 10-05-2014 1:28pm

Davy wrote: »

Thats a good price. Just to anyone who has dimmer switches, theses ones aren't dimmable like the masterLED range.

Davy ,am i right in thinking i can use these with a dimmable switch and they will just light full. Thanks.

dingding · 10-05-2014 6:20pm

If you put them in a dimmer switch you will damage them. I put an LED lamp inadvertently into a lamp with a dimmer before and ever since that it has a very annoying flicker, I think I killed it.

skelligs · 10-05-2014 7:15pm

Lumen is only 165

From Philips website
4-35W GU10 3000K 36D voltage 230 beam 300 lumen 165 efficacy 41 packed 10 >80 code 20197700

165 lumen is about a 20w halogen in terms of brightness.

300 - 360 lumen is almost standard of current lamps, but they are also at a premium price.

That said, 165 lumen will probably be suitable for most domestic areas, but if you need brightness, look for 300lumen+.

wush06 · 10-05-2014 8:59pm

dingding wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-GU10-Perfect-White/dp/B00BQAVLVA/

Here is 10 for about 30 Euro. You will need parcel motel as they will not post to ROI.

Thanks op total of 35.46 to my parcel motel.

mytime · 10-05-2014 9:06pm

Slightly OT but are there any deals on Phillips mr16 led?

dingding · 11-05-2014 7:15pm

IT might be an option to remove the transformers and get the GU10 connection, they are not that dear.

Qwerty? · 11-05-2014 11:04pm

dingding wrote: »

IT might be an option to remove the transformers and get the GU10 connection, they are not that dear.

That's what I did, you'll get GU10 connectors for less than a €1 a piece.

On a side note, has anyone found a suitable Dimmer for LED's? Can't find one for controlling 2x 3.5w LED bulbs:(

dingding · 11-05-2014 11:54pm

wush06 wrote: »

Thanks op total of 35.46 to my parcel motel.

Just if you order multiple packs you don't pay anything additional for postage and you are only paying for one Motel Stay. I was so happy with the first 10, I ordered another couple of packs, and the postage was the same as the first time.

L1011 · 12-05-2014 12:16am

Qwerty? wrote: »

On a side note, has anyone found a suitable Dimmer for LED's? Can't find one for controlling 2x 3.5w LED bulbs:(

Easier to buy bulbs that can be dimmed with a conventional dimmer than getting a faff-tastic dimmer that only works for a specific type of controller.

Qwerty? · 12-05-2014 12:33am

MYOB wrote: »

Easier to buy bulbs that can be dimmed with a conventional dimmer than getting a faff-tastic dimmer that only works for a specific type of controller.

My bulbs are dimmable, but conventional dimmers won't control 7 watts from what I understand

L1011 · 12-05-2014 12:42am

Qwerty? wrote: »

My bulbs are dimmable, but conventional dimmers won't control 7 watts from what I understand

Most modern ones can. Have you got some ancient rheostat dimmer? They also piss heat out rather than actually reducing power consumption.

johnny_adidas · 24-05-2014 2:30am

dingding wrote: »

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-CorePro-GU10-Perfect-White/dp/B00BQAVLVA/

Here is 10 for about 30 Euro. You will need parcel motel as they will not post to ROI.

I see these have gone up to 33 sterling now plus postage. Was delighted with first packet I bought. Just wondering if anyone has spotted them elsewhere for under 40 euro delivered?

Admldj · 24-05-2014 8:55am

Tried the led lights about 5 years ago, I have 14 spots in my house at 50w each so was desperate to try anything ,I found them terrible! like having a load of dim torches, took them all out and left the halogens in, a few months later tescos were doing a cfl bulb with a gu10 fitting 7w for €1.50 reduced from €9.50, I whipped up enough for my place and never looked back, one went on me last week though and had me thinking of led again have they come on or are they still a bit dim?

vibe666 · 24-05-2014 9:09am

Yes, much better now and much cheaper, but watch out for some of the really cheap ones, there's been reports of them being potentially very dangerous recently.

Philips LED Gu10

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