Black Lives Matter protest in Dublin

20Cent wrote: »

What's with the hatred of ordinary people expressing opinions or solidarity with others in this country?. Protests, marches and public gatherings like that are the hallmark of a healthy democracy.

I think it's more tha Blm appear to have progressed more into a hate organisation than anything else. I hope I'm wrong but even seeing their stupid antics at the Toronto gay pride parade makes me think they are a force for bad as opposed to a force for good. All imo of course. Interested to hear other opinions.

Let me be clear that I do not have expert knowledge (or really that much at all) of BlackLivesMatter, so you can take this with a pinch of salt.

So far, BLM do not appear to be a terrorist organisation and definitely does not appear to have been set up as one. One can disagree with their examples (of police brutality specifically aimed at black people), but thus far, their methods seem to have been loud and noticable but not violent.

It is very easy to dismiss a group and their concerns when some complete blithering idiot goes rogue and starts shooting people, but said blithering idiot in this case was immediately condemned by the spokespeople for the group. The vast majority of them absolutely do not want a race war. It's a war that the black people of the US would undoubtedly lose.

An interesting point from the Wiki, which I had not heard about when it happened;
"In November, BLM activists protested after Jamar Clark was shot by Minneapolis Police Department.[100] Later that month, after continuous protest at the Minneapolis 4th Precinct Police Station, a march was organized to honor Jamar Clark, from the 4th Precinct to downtown Minneapolis. After the march, masked men carrying firearms appeared and began calling the protesters racial slurs. After protesters asked the armed men to leave, the men opened fire, shooting five protesters.[101] All injuries required hospitalization, but were not life-threatening. The men fled the scene only to later be found and arrested. The men arrested were young, one white, one Hispanic, both believed to be white supremacists.[102]"

There will always be extremists. There will always be mentally ill people. There will always be people who just want to cause pain and suffering, as if it will somehow make up for the suffering they've felt. Dismissing their motives as just plain wrong feels like a moral victory over them for what they did, but dismissing the issues being raised by the peaceful ones based on the actions of a condemned lone wolf is piling another wrong onto the wrongs already committed.

Many of the statistics quoted by people showing that Blacks commit the majority of crimes in the US (or proportionately more than the overall numbers should deem reasonable) have also highlighted the systemic poverty and lack of opportunity for Black people in the US at the moment. Obviously this does not apply to everyone, but proportionately more black people live in deprivation still. This is a breeding ground for violence, it doesn't matter what colour the skin is at that point.

I don't know if the march is particularly relevant to Ireland, but it's hardly the first time (and won't be the last time) that people march or protest based on foreign affairs.

conorhal wrote: »

It would be one thing if that were true, but the crowd behind these hashtag movements and BLM in particular are no Martin Luthor King's, they're a seriously shady bunch of entryist hijackers and what matters to them most isn't black lives but how much power and influence they can accrue off the back of protest movements. Just as water charges marches were, for the Socialist Workers Party, more about getting their banners front and center then solidarity, you can bet your arse that those behind this are more eager to sow discord than solidarity because there's always and empire to build and a well paid quango job to be had at the back of it.

That's specifically Alicia Garza, Patrisse Cullors and Opal Tometi, the founders of BLM? Why those three then?

wp_rathead wrote: »

You are correct, 50.4% of people killed by police white while 47.6% were minorities (2% unknown)
What you are forgetting/choose to ignore is that 62.6% of population is White while 37.4% are Minorities - so proportionally the number of minorities killed is very high
Especially when you look at unarmed people killed by police, it goes to 34.3% White and 62.7% Minorities (3% unknown)

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving Blacks and Whites, Blacks commit 85 percent and Whites commit 15 percent.

http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime

smash wrote: »

Ah come on now, don't start this crap. They're Irish (of African heritage). Let's not start with the Americanisms.

Oh, oh, the pc brigade on to me...😩

smash wrote: »

I think you'll find that your comment would render you a member of the PC brigade, not me.

Far from it. Just not a pedantic fcuk who likes to parse every sentence I write. Irish of African heritage sounds stupid so you can stick that one up your hole.

Banned.