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  • 20-11-2020 10:28am
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    chefy
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭


    We had a fire in a hedge in Laois recently and received a bill for €2800. I've been out of work due to covid 19 and simply can't pay. What happens from here.


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    blackbox
    Registered Users Posts: 4,101 ✭✭✭blackbox


    chefy wrote: »
    We had a fire in a hedge in Laois recently and received a bill for €2800. I've been out of work due to covid 19 and simply can't pay. What happens from here.

    Will your house (or farm) insurance not cover it?


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    chefy
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭chefy


    It's a rented property and have no insurance.


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    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,149 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    the landlord might have insurance that covers it. have you asked them?


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Contact all your local TD's, explain your situation and ask them to make representations on your behalf.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    chefy
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭chefy


    The original bill was sent to the landlord and passed on to me.

    Thanks for the advice on the TDs I'll try that as a last resort.


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    chefy
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭chefy


    The original bill was sent to the landlord and passed on to me.

    Thanks for the advice on the TDs I'll try that as a last resort.


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    DonalK1981
    Registered Users Posts: 370 ✭✭DonalK1981


    It's sad to think that the public services money doesn't cover the cost of these unless there is malice or arson involved...


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    un5byh7sqpd2x0
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,862 ✭✭✭un5byh7sqpd2x0


    DonalK1981 wrote: »
    It's sad to think that the public services money doesn't cover the cost of these unless there is malice or arson involved...

    It does in some counties.


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    [Deleted User]
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    How did the fire start?
    Was negligence or any messing involved


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    chefy
    Registered Users Posts: 13 ✭chefy


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    How did the fire start?
    Was negligence or any messing involved

    Pure accident. Small clearing bonfire in purpose mabe bin. Sparks floated into the hedge and it caught fire over a few minutes.


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    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    chefy wrote: »
    Pure accident. Small clearing bonfire in purpose mabe bin. Sparks floated into the hedge and it caught fire over a few minutes.

    Maybe contact the fire brigade first and explain your financial situation and go from there. They might be able to point you in the right direction


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    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,160 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    chefy wrote: »
    Pure accident. Small clearing bonfire in purpose mabe bin. Sparks floated into the hedge and it caught fire over a few minutes.

    Accidents don't happen, they are caused. Your fire, your bill.


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    Muas Tenek
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Muas Tenek


    You could apply for a waiver from Laois County council. Download the waiver form from their website and apply.
    They could give a percentage or complete waiver based on your income and ability to pay.
    https://laois.ie/departments/fire-rescue/service-charges/


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    Mrs OBumble
    Registered Users Posts: 25,671 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    Muas Tenek wrote: »
    You could apply for a waiver from Laois County council. Download the waiver form from their website and apply.
    They could give a percentage or complete waiver based on your income and ability to pay.
    https://laois.ie/departments/fire-rescue/service-charges/

    The OP's income is irrelevant. The liability for the bill is with the property owner.


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Mrs OBumble wrote: »
    The OP's income is irrelevant. The liability for the bill is with the property owner.

    Don't think so, (in Kerry) the bill is sent to the person that makes the phone call.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Peintre Celebre
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Don't think so, (in Kerry) the bill is sent to the person that makes the phone call.

    This is one of the most stupid common misconceptions around.

    You see a house on fire and you live opposite and ring it in. They do not send you the bill


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    This is one of the most stupid common misconceptions around.

    You see a house on fire and you live opposite and ring it in. They do not send you the bill

    No, this is a fact in Kerry.

    I know.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Peintre Celebre
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Peintre Celebre


    Yeah I'm sure they do, if the caller is the person liable for the bill.

    They don't hit a random passerby with a call out fee for ringing in a road traffic collision or house fire, for instance. If you think they do you are incorrect


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    the hedgeman
    Registered Users Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭the hedgeman


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    No, this is a fact in Kerry.

    I know.

    At car collisions where fire brigade are in attendance,both drivers get the same bill ,1 of the drivers did ring emergency services,someone has to pay usually the insurance company, this is in kerry


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Peintre Celebre wrote: »
    Yeah I'm sure they do, if the caller is the person liable for the bill.

    They don't hit a random passerby with a call out fee for ringing in a road traffic collision or house fire, for instance. If you think they do you are incorrect

    I don't think they do, I know they do.

    If you choose not to believe me that's your choice but you are wrong.

    I know.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    nuckeythompson
    Registered Users Posts: 939 ✭✭✭nuckeythompson


    complete bullcrap - my cousin in tralee had a small fire in there back shed _ completely burned down
    the next door neighbour called the FB as my cousin was at work- my cousin got the bill and not the neighbor who kindly called them.
    if this was the case people would not call the FB in fear of getting a bill


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    Muas Tenek
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Muas Tenek


    The local authority will always try to bill the beneficial party. First port of call will be the landowner who can then send the bill on to the leaseholder (or whoever started the fire).
    The OP was very unfortunate in this incident, but there are controlled burning rules in Ireland (for very good reasons) which require a license from the LA to burn.
    Op unfortunately you will be held to pay this bill - but as I said you should apply for a waiver.


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    [Deleted User]
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    I needed the fire service last year and my bill was a few hundred. The local council offices were very helpful in setting up a monthly DD plan for me to suit my own terms. I wanted it payed off within a year, but by the sounds of it I could have made the payment over multiple years.

    Contact your county council office, the relevant phone number will be on your bill, and explain the situation to them and see what they can do for you. Good luck.


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    Muas Tenek
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭Muas Tenek


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Don't think so, (in Kerry) the bill is sent to the person that makes the phone call.

    This is only true if the call is from beneficial recipient who is also the owner of the property.
    If several people call in a fire they do not all receive a bill.
    People should not be put off calling the Fire brigade when they see a fire or other incident because they are afraid they will get a bill.


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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    nuckeythompson wrote: »
    complete bullcrap - my cousin in tralee had a small fire in there back shed _ completely burned down
    the next door neighbour called the FB as my cousin was at work- my cousin got the bill and not the neighbor who kindly called them.
    if this was the case people would not call the FB in fear of getting a bill

    Okay I'm trying to tell you that I know from personal experience.

    I've been told it's bullcrap and a stupid common misconception by people who think they know better, it is neither.

    I know I am right, not because of what my cousin told me or what I read on the internet or heard from a fireman.

    Maybe we should just agree to disagree on this.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    Rows Grower
    Registered Users Posts: 7,826 ✭✭✭Rows Grower


    Muas Tenek wrote: »
    This is only true if the call is from beneficial recipient who is also the owner of the property.
    If several people call in a fire they do not all receive a bill.
    People should not be put off calling the Fire brigade when they see a fire or other incident because they are afraid they will get a bill.

    Incorrect.

    I agree with the rest of your post.

    "Very soon we are going to Mars. You wouldn't have been going to Mars if my opponent won, that I can tell you. You wouldn't even be thinking about it."

    Donald Trump, March 13th 2018.



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    kravmaga
    Registered Users Posts: 1,945 ✭✭✭kravmaga


    chefy wrote: »
    The original bill was sent to the landlord and passed on to me.

    Thanks for the advice on the TDs I'll try that as a last resort.

    Does the landlord have Insurance? Whoever has the insurance policy pays the bill.

    Op, how can the bill be €2,800 ? In Dublin( all 4 councils) the call out fee is usually between €500 to €600 approx.

    Where are they going with the €2,800??


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    wench
    Registered Users Posts: 1,630 ✭✭✭wench


    kravmaga wrote: »
    Does the landlord have Insurance? Whoever has the insurance policy pays the bill.

    Op, how can the bill be €2,800 ? In Dublin( all 4 councils) the call out fee is usually between €500 to €600 approx.

    Where are they going with the €2,800??
    Looks like some councils charge the actual cost rather than a flat fee
    https://www.theaa.ie/blog/calling-end-fire-brigade-call-charges/


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    listermint
    Registered Users Posts: 33,616 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    Rows Grower wrote: »
    Incorrect.

    I agree with the rest of your post.

    Have you a link to Kerry's council rules in this. Cheers


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    Nigzcurran
    Registered Users Posts: 2,681 ✭✭✭Nigzcurran


    listermint wrote: »
    Have you a link to Kerry's council rules in this. Cheers

    How could they? It dosnt exist in Kerry county council or any county council, utter nonsense


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