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34 Days of back to back snooker begins today !

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  • #202
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    It's a bit of a slow burner this UK i have to say. The fact Eurosport have no analysis before, during or after all matches is not great. Some of the players have been pretty poor and matches have not been very exciting.

    Still though it's a great tournament so when BBC come on board next week and we get some analysis it will be a lot better. A tournament as prestigious as this deserves some analysis at the very least.


  • #203
    Rothko
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    It's a bit of a slow burner this UK i have to say. The fact Eurosport have no analysis before, during or after all matches is not great. Some of the players have been pretty poor and matches have not been very exciting.

    Still though it's a great tournament so when BBC come on board next week and we get some analysis it will be a lot better. A tournament as prestigious as this deserves some analysis at the very least.

    Tbh, these matches feel more like qualifiers rather than an actual first round proper.


  • #204
    Joe_ Public
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    Pity that. After picking out a good plant. Last shot of the night for him i suspect.

    Scratch that: jinx worked!


  • #205
    Joe_ Public
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    Jaysus, 4 chances to win that frame Leo! What more did you want? Nice finish by ron, though.


  • #206
    El_Duderino 09
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Thanks - the way they spoke about it, it was a bit unclear as to whether that £10,000 was for the charity, or the players. The high break prize was interwoven into that conversation; as well as the donation per century for the foundation/charity.

    The way I heard it was £15k (high break prize plus bonus for 147) for Wilson and £10 for the charity. Whether that’s just divided between the 2 players with 147s and the charity or whether any parts of it get doubled, I don’t know.


  • #207
    Joe_ Public
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    There is no 147 bonus at all now, as it stands wilson and bingham are sharing the 15k high break prize. 20k is going to the jenny may trust.


  • #208
    Chalk McHugh
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    Two maximums already this week. I don't think there was ever three in one tournament. Can't recall it anyway. I think we will see another one.


  • #209
    Rothko
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Jaysus, 4 chances to win that frame Leo! What more did you want? Nice finish by ron, though.

    Pity to see him get whitewashed but he really can't complain.


  • #210
    zuutroy
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    Two maximums already this week. I don't think there was ever three in one tournament. Can't recall it anyway. I think we will see another one.

    German Masters a few years ago and a previous UK both had 3.


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  • #211
    Joe_ Public
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    Rothko wrote: »
    Pity to see him get whitewashed but he really can't complain.

    Nah, he obviously did just go out with the intention of going for his shots and not die wondering. Just didn't get him very far. Should have won that 6th frame though.

    The structure of this tournament is a bit questionable imo, not giving the amateurs much of a chance by pairing them with the top ranked. Open draw would be fairer i believe.


  • #212
    Silly Gilly
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    zuutroy wrote: »
    German Masters a few years ago and a previous UK both had 3.

    Why did you delete your IPB account?


  • #213
    Glenman
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    It's a bit of a slow burner this UK i have to say. The fact Eurosport have no analysis before, during or after all matches is not great. Some of the players have been pretty poor and matches have not been very exciting.

    Still though it's a great tournament so when BBC come on board next week and we get some analysis it will be a lot better. A tournament as prestigious as this deserves some analysis at the very least.

    I presume Eurosport will begin analysis from Saturday like BBC. Normally the first week was not televised at all.


  • #214
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Glenman wrote: »
    I presume Eurosport will begin analysis from Saturday like BBC. Normally the first week was not televised at all.

    Yea i presume they will. I checked the BBC coverage and it starts on Saturday but only a certain few live hours each day and then the usual red button thing that i don't have so hopefully Eurosport will get back to their usual excellent coverage and proper analysis.


  • #215
    ArmaniJeanss
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    Yes, looking at last years thread there was no Eurosport tv coverage at all until Round 2 on Saturday.
    So I'm guessing we should just regard this as bare-bones 'bonus' coverage as if it was on their player. And hopefully normal quality service resumes at the weekend.


  • #216
    Joe_ Public
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    This caught my eye between sessions, not for the content, but the fact that BBC Newsnight would give 6 minutes to a young Jimmy White getting a makeover. What times!

    https://twitter.com/BBCArchive/status/1331926927658115077?s=20


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  • #217
    Joe_ Public
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    Ken be happy to be level at the interval, Lu was looking strong early on. Have a feeling this could go the distance.


  • #218
    Brian?
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    Ding v some bald fella is the worst match I can ever remember watching. The standard is awful.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #219
    Joe_ Public
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    Ken wins a marathon 5th frame to sneak in front. Not sure but that had to be well over an hour, included Lu arguing for 10 minutes over a ball replacement.


  • #220
    deise300
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    Any stream for this Joe? Good comeback from Ken after losing the first 2


  • #221
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Judd Trump v Paul Davison is probably on Eurosport this evening but more than likely another one sided affair. If i had the choice i'd like to see Kurt Maflin v Aaron Hill as it has all the makings of an exciting, close fought match between two players desperate to progress.


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  • #222
    Joe_ Public
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    deise300 wrote: »
    Any stream for this Joe? Good comeback from Ken after losing the first 2

    I think you could find a link handy enough, maybe search live stream snooker on twitter and something will turn up. Am watching on a bookies website, you need an account though.

    Ken wearing him down now, 4-2, benefit of three decades of experience!


  • #223
    Brian?
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    Judd Trump v Paul Davison is probably on Eurosport this evening but more than likely another one sided affair. If i had the choice i'd like to see Kurt Maflin v Aaron Hill as it has all the makings of an exciting, close fought match between two players desperate to progress.

    I honestly don't want to watch the best players white wash the worse. I'd much rather watch that as well.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #224
    Joe_ Public
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    Another longgg frame and Lu nicks it for 4-4. Ken had him frazzled earlier on, Lu close to mini breakdown. Let him off the hook though. Its a fascinating encounter, bit of a grind but not bad snooker.


  • #225
    Joe_ Public
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    Lu found another gear, disappointing for Ken from 4-2 up. Credit to Lu though, Ken threw all his craft and experience at him, thought his head was gone at least twice but held himself together well in the end.

    Hill up against it against Maflin tonight i think, but hope he acquits himself well. Never know what you're going to get with Kurt sometimes, can be brilliant or stink the gaff out. Somewhere in the middle would be ok!


  • #226
    waynescales1
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    Leo Fernandez is a player I find it difficult to motivate myself to support.

    Shame about Ken, Hill later this evening, might try watch a bit.


  • #227
    Joe_ Public
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    Very scrappy opener by both but a win is a win! Hopefully build his confidence on that.


  • #228
    Joe_ Public
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    Like that. Had a couple of tricky pots on, turned them down and played the safety which earned him the frame winning chance and made the ton clearance. So much about confidence and keeping a clear head this game!


  • #229
    Rothko
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    Yeah, great start for Hill here. Hope he can keep it going.


  • #230
    Joe_ Public
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    Cueing like a dream. And maflin all over the gaff so far.


  • #231
    Joe_ Public
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    Maflin finally woken up. 3-1 a good interval lead, keep doing what he's doing and has a great chance.


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  • #232
    Joe_ Public
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    Lost his lead here but to be fair, not done a lot wrong. Couple of loose safeties under pressure. Big frame incoming.


  • #233
    Joe_ Public
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    That was calamitous. Unlucky in off on the yellow but didn't think he could miss the snooker behind the pink. Dunno can he recover from that.


  • #234
    Rothko
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    Big mistake by Hill lets Maflin steal the frame. That could be a big moment in the match.


  • #235
    Rothko
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    Looks like Maflin is going through. A few mistakes by Hill proved to be very costly.


  • #236
    Joe_ Public
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    Very disappointed for him, second match running he's led 3-0 only not to win. Gotta hurt. Confidence drained out of him there, not handling pressure very well. On the plus side, thought his safety on the whole was quite decent, big improvement in recent displays. Couldn't buy a long pot for love nor money which is usually a strong point of his game.


  • #237
    refusetolose
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    aaron shows a lot of rage don't he :) ,lot to learn yet

    whats next for him?


  • #238
    Joe_ Public
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    Maybe not rage but definitely a bit of visible frustration there alright, allowing his emotions to get better of him. Its a brutal sport at times, very lonely when things going against you.

    Just scottish open now in 2 weeks and then nothing till February i'd say. Break probably not a bad thing but does need to be earning some badly needed ranking points.


  • #239
    FR01
    Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭FR01


    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Maybe not rage but definitely a bit of visible frustration there alright, allowing his emotions to get better of him. Its a brutal sport at times, very lonely when things going against you.

    Just scottish open now in 2 weeks and then nothing till February i'd say. Break probably not a bad thing but does need to be earning some badly needed ranking points.

    Yes a lot of frustration and not only inexperience showing but a touch of maturity also, this kid is a player of that there’s no doubt but it’s not all about potting balls and making breaks,that’s easy when you’re flying and your opponent is struggling but it’s digging in when you need to and grinding out ugly wins is the hallmark of a top player.. Maflin is no mug but he fancied the job more than Hill at 3-3.

    Hindsight is a great thing but that win against Ronnie earlier in the season may be beginning to have a negative affect on him now.

    It’s more important that what he learns from these defeats he takes into the Scottish Open and the second half of the season.


  • #240
    Joe_ Public
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    FR01 wrote: »
    Yes a lot of frustration and not only inexperience showing but a touch of maturity also, this kid is a player of that there’s no doubt but it’s not all about potting balls and making breaks,that’s easy when you’re flying and your opponent is struggling but it’s digging in when you need to and grinding out ugly wins is the hallmark of a top player.. Maflin is no mug but he fancied the job more than Hill at 3-3.

    Hindsight is a great thing but that win against Ronnie earlier in the season may be beginning to have a negative affect on him now.

    It’s more important that what he learns from these defeats he takes into the Scottish Open and the second half of the season.

    Yes, i think the downside of the ronnie victory was palpable, so easy to get ahead of yourself in these things. All that attention and the rte interviews, he's young and human so very understandable if it went to his head a bit. Nothing wrong with hard defeats once you're learning and adapting to the environment, definitely has a good bit to go yet on what we've seen.

    I know he has a decent set up at home, a few good players around him, but if I were him, i'd be keen to avail of the fergal/ken/murphy axis in dublin at every available opportunity. A very deep well of knowledge and experience to tap into there.


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  • #241
    Brian?
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    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Yes, i think the downside of the ronnie victory was palpable, so easy to get ahead of yourself in these things. All that attention and the rte interviews, he's young and human so very understandable if it went to his head a bit. Nothing wrong with hard defeats once you're learning and adapting to the environment, definitely has a good bit to go yet on what we've seen.

    I know he has a decent set up at home, a few good players around him, but if I were him, i'd be keen to avail of the fergal/ken/murphy axis in dublin at every available opportunity. A very deep well of knowledge and experience to tap into there.

    Dublin? Have they moved on from Celbridge? ;)

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #242
    FR01
    Registered Users Posts: 194 ✭✭FR01


    Joe_ Public wrote: »
    Yes, i think the downside of the ronnie victory was palpable, so easy to get ahead of yourself in these things. All that attention and the rte interviews, he's young and human so very understandable if it went to his head a bit. Nothing wrong with hard defeats once you're learning and adapting to the environment, definitely has a good bit to go yet on what we've seen.

    I know he has a decent set up at home, a few good players around him, but if I were him, i'd be keen to avail of the fergal/ken/murphy axis in dublin at every available opportunity. A very deep well of knowledge and experience to tap into there.

    Couldn’t agree more and the three boys would welcome him with open arms , three different table set ups also which will help too.


  • #243
    gormdubhgorm
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    Bingham 147 don't see many starting with a double.

    I am getting a bit suspicious at this stage two 147's made fairly effortlessly in the one tournament. OK I know the crowds are not there which may lead to less pressure. Plus the standard of overall snooker has improved from 25 years ago.

    But it seems to me the tables look to be playing easier? The ball seems to have a great chance of going into the pocket whereas in other periods it would have jangled out, or at least wobbled?

    Or am I being completely unfair?


    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • #244
    waynescales1
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    gormdubhgorm wrote: »
    Bingham 147 don't see many starting with a double.

    I am getting a bit suspicious at this stage. OK I know the crowds are not there which may lead to less pressure. Plus the standard of overall snooker has improved from 25 years ago. But it seems to me the tables look to be playing easier? The ball seems to have a great chance of going into the pocket whereas in other periods it would have jangled out, or at least wobbled?



    It's the cloths rather than the pockets in my opinion. One thing the older generation of player regularly mentions is how easy it is to move the cueball around the table on these modern "superfine" cloths. Something which is quite important if you're going to make a 147.


  • #245
    mickdw
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    waynescales1 wrote: »
    It's the cloths rather than the pockets in my opinion. One thing the older generation of player regularly mentions is how easy it is to move the cueball around the table on these modern "superfine" cloths. Something which is quite important if you're going to make a 147.

    Yes and i think there is too much made of how tight the pockets are versus a club table. I used to play regularly on fergal o briens table when it was in lucan and to be honest while the pockets were a good bit tighter than the other tables, the way the fast cloth allowed you to just stroke everything pretty much made up for the pockets as you will be more accurate with less power.
    The pockets would still catch me regularly but they are beautiful tables to play on. A straight black for example screwing off the cushion and out into middle of table needs no power on those cloths.
    Thats going back maybe 15 years so id say today they are even faster.


  • #246
    waynescales1
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    mickdw wrote: »
    Yes and i think there is too much made of how tight the pockets are versus a club table. I used to play regularly on fergal o briens table when it was in lucan and to be honest while the pockets were a good bit tighter than the other tables, the way the fast cloth allowed you to just stroke everything pretty much made up for the pockets as you will be more accurate with less power.
    The pockets would still catch me regularly but they are beautiful tables to play on. A straight black for example screwing off the cushion and out into middle of table needs no power on those cloths.
    Thats going back maybe 15 years so id say today they are even faster.

    Yes, the ease and range of positional shots available to the modern player, due to the faster cloth seems to be the main contributor. As O'Sullivan says "nowadays anybody can make 100s".


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  • #247
    Brian?
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    waynescales1 wrote: »
    It's the cloths rather than the pockets in my opinion. One thing the older generation of player regularly mentions is how easy it is to move the cueball around the table on these modern "superfine" cloths. Something which is quite important if you're going to make a 147.

    Yeah. I’ve played on superfine cloth a good bit. It’s wonderful to get a reaction out of the cue ball. Control around the Black is much easier. Little soft screw and stun shots are easier to play.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • #248
    Chalk McHugh
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    mickdw wrote: »
    Yes and i think there is too much made of how tight the pockets are versus a club table. I used to play regularly on fergal o briens table when it was in lucan and to be honest while the pockets were a good bit tighter than the other tables, the way the fast cloth allowed you to just stroke everything pretty much made up for the pockets as you will be more accurate with less power.
    The pockets would still catch me regularly but they are beautiful tables to play on. A straight black for example screwing off the cushion and out into middle of table needs no power on those cloths.
    Thats going back maybe 15 years so id say today they are even faster.

    You used play in Hemericks club? Spent many a time in Raphael's myself. Was a very well run club and a great addition to the village. Such a shame it's long gone.


  • #249
    mickdw
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    You used play in Hemericks club? Spent many a time in Raphael's myself. Was a very well run club and a great addition to the village. Such a shame it's long gone.

    Yep. Lovely club. I lived in lucan for 3 years from about 2001 to 2004 and would have been there 3 to 4 evenings a week.
    If the place was busy they would let you on fergals table once they knew you werent going to rip the cloth or something.


  • #250
    Chalk McHugh
    Registered Users Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    mickdw wrote: »
    Yep. Lovely club. I lived in lucan for 3 years from about 2001 to 2004 and would have been there 3 to 4 evenings a week.
    If the place was busy they would let you on fergals table once they knew you werent going to rip the cloth or something.

    If i could i used play on the table just up the steps in the door to the immediate right at the window. During the day was usually fine but at night you could be sitting at the table and chairs beside the reception foyeur having a cup of tea and waiting for a free table. What was Fergals table num again? Was it 5? Been a long time so memory is fading a bit.


  • #251
    mickdw
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    Chalk McHugh wrote: »
    If i could i used play on the table just up the steps in the door to the immediate right at the window. During the day was usually fine but at night you could be sitting at the table and chairs beside the reception foyeur having a cup of tea and waiting for a free table. What was Fergals table num again? Was it 5? Been a long time so memory is fading a bit.

    Good question was it 9? 5 doesnt sound right. Last table up at the back.
    Never liked the tables near the reception - a quiet corner was more to my liking.


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