Pokemon Go Mark III

RobbingBandit · 25-05-2018 2:58pm

Hatched baby Merrill don't think I'll be doing much else today warm weather is bad for my health problems might try get out after 7 if it is cooler. Two gyms in Finglas village hopefully one will have Aerodactyl.

Diemos · 25-05-2018 3:32pm

josip wrote: »

What would you recommend instead?

Chansey or Beldum.

Nody · 25-05-2018 4:08pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

So unless you are confident you will be getting regular ex raid passes I'd suggest powering up your mewtwo and enjoying him now.

The place I do my weekly raiding has 8 or 9 sponsored gyms and all can trigger EX raids at multiple times in a day. So far I've gotten two back to back invites (last one is next week which I can't do) in four weeks but yea I'm fairly sure I should see more invites as time moves along (it's also the only place I can pretty much always get a pick up boss raid regularly so I'm sort of committed to raid there to get my legendary 'mons over time :P). I'll still be working up the one I got (after all getting 6+ more which have to better will not only take a lot of time but a ton of candy!) along the way; if nothing else than to increase the available 3k mons to use.

josip · 25-05-2018 4:40pm

Thirdfox wrote: »

Remember even a 67% iv Mewtwo (the worst possible from an ex raid) has 98% of the total stats of a 100% iv mewtwo (310 out of 315 attack, 705 out of 720 total stats).

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/84bkrf/mewtwo_iv/

Does that 2% difference matter? Sure maybe in some edge cases but I would think that in real life you wouldn't notice a difference - I saw one person on reddit mention that the difference between a 67iv machamp and 100iv machamp is 0.3 seconds in clearing a standard blissey (not sure what cp that blissey is though )

So unless you are confident you will be getting regular ex raid passes I'd suggest powering up your mewtwo and enjoying him now.

I'm living by this mantra btw - for example I'm walking and powering up my 87% kyogre instead of my 93% max attack one - the end cp difference is 20ish cp at lvl40 and I'm sure I wouldn't notice a difference using the 87 one over the 93 one. The 87% kyogre was picked up on my holidays in Munich so it's much more "fun" for me to use him

I thought that with the way damage breakpoints are calculated, that there could be a 3.3% (1/34) difference in Mewtwo damage output between poor/good IVs?

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/breakpoint-calculator#/

Jfrost · 25-05-2018 5:33pm

Diemos wrote: »

Chansey or Beldum.

Chansey??
Love seeing these clueless posts.
Walk what you want first, if you have everything you want then walk your strongest attackers, to make them stronger.
At the moment Tyranitar is my walking buddy as I have a 98% Larvitar, and 4 96% Tyranitar that I want to max out.
But a Chansey just sits in a gym and gives no better return then a Pidgey after 8 hours, no good in a Raid nor is Blissey... With both your relighing on other players to take Raid boss down.

syboit · 25-05-2018 5:50pm

Jfrost wrote: »

Chansey??
Love seeing these clueless posts.
Walk what you want first, if you have everything you want then walk your strongest attackers, to make them stronger.
At the moment Tyranitar is my walking buddy as I have a 98% Larvitar, and 4 96% Tyranitar that I want to max out.
But a Chansey just sits in a gym and gives no better return then a Pidgey after 8 hours, no good in a Raid nor is Blissey... With both your relighing on other players to take Raid boss down.

Tell that to the guys who keep golden razz'n a 3k+ Blissey. But I will agree the main priority is always something you don't have, I reckon I walked most of my lileep candies (Note to self: they are everywhere right now).

Even powering up your best attackers becomes less effective after a while, I think there was only 1 legendardy raid I did where we have 5 people (2 under 30's) and it was a struggle to the end.

RobbingBandit · 26-05-2018 11:23pm

Rainbow weather feature for Alolan pokemon forms.

http://comicbook.com/gaming/2018/05/25/pokemon-go-rainbows-alolan-pokemon/

Thirdfox · 27-05-2018 2:23pm

josip wrote: »

I thought that with the way damage breakpoints are calculated, that there could be a 3.3% (1/34) difference in Mewtwo damage output between poor/good IVs?

https://pokemongo.gamepress.gg/breakpoint-calculator#/

Useful link thanks!

Looking at machamp boss for example - (I used pokebattler to run a simulation)

A 10/10/10 iv mewtwo takes 135.8 seconds to beat a tier 3 machamp boss

https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/MEWTWO/quickMoves/CONFUSION_FAST/cinMoves/SHADOW_BALL/levels/40/ivs/AAA/defenders/MACHAMP/quickMoves/BULLET_PUNCH_FAST/cinMoves/CLOSE_COMBAT/cp/17294/strategies/DODGE_SPECIALS2/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?includeDetails=true&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&weatherCondition=NO_WEATHER&seed=1527426157311

A 15/15/15 iv mewtwo takes 130.4 seconds to beat machamp

https://www.pokebattler.com/fights/attackers/MEWTWO/quickMoves/CONFUSION_FAST/cinMoves/SHADOW_BALL/levels/40/ivs/FFF/defenders/MACHAMP/quickMoves/BULLET_PUNCH_FAST/cinMoves/CLOSE_COMBAT/levels/RAID_LEVEL_3/strategies/DODGE_SPECIALS2/DEFENSE_RANDOM_MC?includeDetails=true&dodgeStrategy=DODGE_REACTION_TIME&weatherCondition=NO_WEATHER&randomAssistants=0&seed=1527426327675

Oh and just for fun I did an 87% (13/13/13) mewtwo too - that's 132.7 seconds to win against machamp.

So the difference in this case is 5.4 seconds in a "worst" case scenario - is it worth it to deny oneself use of the lower iv mewtwo until a higher one is found? That's a personal choice but I'd rather be enjoying my uber strong low iv mewtwo already

Btw - in windy weather because of the boost to damage the difference between a 66iv mewtwo (confusion/shadow ball) and 100iv mewtwo (c/sb) on a machamp boss falls to around 0.8 seconds (120.6 vs 121.4 seconds to win) - hardly any difference to speak of I think.

RobbingBandit · 27-05-2018 8:56pm

How do I report spoofers got knocked out of a gym in glasnevin cemetery at 7:56pm cemetery was closed this gym is not accessible from outside the grounds so unless there is a staff member playing it's a spoofer.

josip · 27-05-2018 11:00pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

How do I report spoofers got knocked out of a gym in glasnevin cemetery at 7:56pm cemetery was closed this gym is not accessible from outside the grounds so unless there is a staff member playing it's a spoofer.

Might have been one of the residents?

syboit · 28-05-2018 8:34am

RobbingBandit wrote: »

How do I report spoofers got knocked out of a gym in glasnevin cemetery at 7:56pm cemetery was closed this gym is not accessible from outside the grounds so unless there is a staff member playing it's a spoofer.

https://support.pokemongo.nianticlabs.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=319948

RobbingBandit · 28-05-2018 10:00am

Unfortunately I need the name of the spoofer in order to report which I don't have will just have to be more vigilant in future, death to spoofers or at least brick their phones.

Diemos · 28-05-2018 10:16am

Jfrost wrote: »

Chansey??
Love seeing these clueless posts.
Walk what you want first, if you have everything you want then walk your strongest attackers, to make them stronger.
At the moment Tyranitar is my walking buddy as I have a 98% Larvitar, and 4 96% Tyranitar that I want to max out.
But a Chansey just sits in a gym and gives no better return then a Pidgey after 8 hours, no good in a Raid nor is Blissey... With both your relighing on other players to take Raid boss down.

Clueless? :rolleyes:

A +1000cp chansey holds its hp for over a day, gives enough time for notifications to allow you to golden ras any gym.

Yes, walking attackers is viable, but I assumed that people would have enough attacker candy, between events and raid bosses there should be no chortage of attacker candy, plus most of the top tier attackers are legendary.

My point was rather than walking rubbish like lileep or slakoth just to tick the gotcha box, just to be patient and walk meta relavent mon.

josip · 28-05-2018 10:20am

Son walking Slakoth at the moment and loves him.
The nonchalant lift of the paw when he gives him a tickle.
Only Fire Butt was better.

RobbingBandit · 28-05-2018 10:27am

Mewtwo still seems to be 5k per candy

syboit · 28-05-2018 1:45pm

Diemos wrote: »

My point was rather than walking rubbish like lileep or slakoth just to tick the gotcha box, just to be patient and walk meta relavent mon.

I wish I had the patience to not walk ones I was short, every one I've walked heavily, Kabuto/Omanyte/Mareep/Larvitar/Lileep/Slakoth have eventually had its day and I'm now tripping over candies

mcgovern · 28-05-2018 1:58pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Mewtwo still seems to be 5k per candy

Legendaries are normally 20km per candy I think, so 5km would be right.

Rooy · 28-05-2018 2:42pm

I happily walked a Chasney for the past few months to power up my team of Blisseys , enjoy the defence side of things and have large numbers of decent attackers ready . I find for busy gyms I take down then getting a Blissey in there gives you the best chance of getting a notification in time in order to hold onto it at the start until your team follows you in there.
Im always chasing gyms so my Blisseys are my used Mons.

Diemos · 28-05-2018 3:11pm

syboit wrote: »

I wish I had the patience to not walk ones I was short, every one I've walked heavily, Kabuto/Omanyte/Mareep/Larvitar/Lileep/Slakoth have eventually had its day and I'm now tripping over candies

It's exactly what I did through gen 1 & 2, by gen 3 I just stopped caring about the dex. I just focused on meta relevant pokemon.

Everyone plays the game differently. I, for instance, am constantly out of stardust, but I have teams of maxed out attackers.

Diemos · 28-05-2018 3:13pm

Rooy wrote: »

I happily walked a Chasney for the past few months to power up my team of Blisseys , enjoy the defence side of things and have large numbers of decent attackers ready . I find for busy gyms I take down then getting a Blissey in there gives you the best chance of getting a notification in time in order to hold onto it at the start until your team follows you in there.
Im always chasing gyms so my Blisseys are my used Mons.

Try just powered up Chansey, they are beasts!!!! Plus make sure you have the best moveset to counter machamp (zen / dazzling). You see so many pound/hyperbeam Blissey that are 3000+.

Jfrost · 29-05-2018 11:41am

Rooy wrote: »

I happily walked a Chasney for the past few months to power up my team of Blisseys , enjoy the defence side of things and have large numbers of decent attackers ready . I find for busy gyms I take down then getting a Blissey in there gives you the best chance of getting a notification in time in order to hold onto it at the start until your team follows you in there.
Im always chasing gyms so my Blisseys are my used Mons.

Been a rural player, my gym holders can still in a gym for days or weeks and occasionally months without been touch.... So the defense aspect of gym holding hasn't been of interest

Angron · 29-05-2018 4:41pm

Went to Galway for another Mewtwo raid, ended up catching it on 4 accounts, including my own :pac:

Nody · 29-05-2018 5:57pm

And another EX Raid for next Wednesday at 11am; joy... At this speed it will take me two months to get EX raid on Saturdays

Thirdfox · 29-05-2018 7:52pm

Angron wrote: »

Went to Galway for another Mewtwo raid, ended up catching it on 4 accounts, including my own :pac:

The real question is how many you pinapped

RobbingBandit · 29-05-2018 8:53pm

Shiny Omanyte is so awesome unsuccessful Latios catch is not, pokekarma giveth and taketh away.

Angron · 30-05-2018 8:05am

Thirdfox wrote: »

The real question is how many you pinapped

Only went for the pinap on mine, caught it first ball :P

RobbingBandit · 30-05-2018 8:26am

Alolan Exeggutor is available it's a dragon type

DublinCJM · 30-05-2018 9:14am

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Alolan Exeggutor is available it's a dragon type

Just noticed it was dragon. Still need a few for my last Gold medal on Dragon types.

Tenger · 30-05-2018 10:27am

DublinCJM wrote: »

Just noticed it was dragon. Still need a few for my last Gold medal on Dragon types.

Oh, that hadnt occured to me. Im a long way from Gold so far.

josip · 30-05-2018 10:34am

They've put commas in the XP to make it more readable

Diemos · 30-05-2018 10:50am

The ability to feed berries from the gym menu is great.

Rooy · 30-05-2018 11:00am

Diemos wrote: »

The ability to feed berries from the gym menu is great.

Ya , i delighted with that change , far easier than having to locate and drill in from list of pokemons and type in 'defender' correctly.

Nody · 30-05-2018 1:25pm

And I've just managed to get my third golden gym /happy dance. I got one more gym locally which I can get to gold; the rest are all early silver and only touched once a week basically and hence will take ages...

RobbingBandit · 30-05-2018 5:11pm

Walking Walimer as I still need 100 candy to evolve mine and I really think it will be part of the next mythical research ala magikarp.

Tenger · 30-05-2018 10:50pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Walking Walimer as I still need 100 candy to evolve mine and I really think it will be part of the next mythical research ala magikarp.

I’ve got enough to evolve another Wailmer and a Swablu, a Magikarp and a Slakoth. I’m holding off on all of them in case of being needed for Special research.

josip · 30-05-2018 11:20pm

For those of you who duo Tyranitar with normal weather (no boost either way)
Do you accept that you're going to lose the first team and go with 6 Machamps, faint and another teams with 2/3 decent Machamps?
Or do you use 4 Machamps and 2 Hariyama anchors to try and finish it off before the first team all faint?
Max reviving all the first team isn't really an option for me for various reasons.

At the moment we've got 2 level 31 teams of 5 Machamps and a Hariyama anchor.
But they're fainting with about 25s to go and in the end although we're getting it close, there's still 5-10s left on the bar.

Thirdfox · 31-05-2018 8:46am

The last breakpoint for machamp is at 36 for 15 attack iv and 36.5 for 14 attack iv.

With a ttar duo you should be getting it done within the first team - if both teams faint you get a "boss recovers hp" bug when you go back in.

I've 4 lvl40 machamp, 2 lvl40 hariyama. My wife has various machamp of bad/middling/good ivs at lvl30-31 and I've run the simulations and we can't beat ttar without a weather boost - we probably would miss out on completing it by around 20 seconds (hitting the last breakpoint at 36 (or higher for my wife's poor iv machamps) is very important.

One strategy I've seen done on reddit is only 3 machamps are needed for one team - i.e. for my wife if she can power up 3 machamps to the last break point she can max revive the 3 champ team once they've fainted (and I'm still battling to avoid the HP bug) and go in again - I haven't run the exact simulation yet - but this way we should be able to duo ttar without weather boosts.

It still requires a lot of stardust/candy commitment from my wife though - as a casual player she has around 20k dust and very few machop candy. All the more reason to only focus on 3 machamps instead of 6 I guess. That doesn't help with your max revive situation however - but if you've got normal revives and hyper potions it may be good enough (since you only need the time to revive and potion 3 champs - and they should all be ready in a battle party for quick selection after fainting).

Once my wife's machamps have hit the theoretical duo level of ttar I'll let you know how it turns out.

Angron · 01-06-2018 11:25pm

Had a very good day today. Got a second shiny Ho-oh, a shiny Omanyte, and a shiny Kabuto

RobbingBandit · 02-06-2018 4:14pm

Tried 5 aerodactyl got three close to beating other two close to red need a stardust boost for my top ten gonna catch everything in sight today with a starpiece on

Angron · 02-06-2018 4:22pm

Got a 100% Articuno from the research stuff, so that's nice.

alchemist33 · 02-06-2018 6:15pm

Still shinyless from this event, just like the fighting one. It's getting pretty frustrating. Also the only one in my house without a shiny Ho-oh! (Although they don't have a 100% one like I do)

syboit · 02-06-2018 7:51pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Still shinyless from this event, just like the fighting one. It's getting pretty frustrating. Also the only one in my house without a shiny Ho-oh! (Although they don't have a 100% one like I do)

Think I'm getting shiny burn out, I was lucky enough to get a shiny kabuto which gave me a boost but going through a lot of aron's/omanyte's and no sign of one. Did 3 ho-oh raids today and no shiny's for anyone.

RobbingBandit · 02-06-2018 8:35pm

Due my Articuno tomorrow night midnight will be my first one hope it's the legendary dogs for July starting with Entei

Excellent curve ball so Articuno and Mew finally have all 151 kanto pokemon

alchemist33 · 02-06-2018 8:53pm

RobbingBandit wrote: »

Due my Articuno tomorrow night midnight will be my first one hope it's the legendary dogs for July starting with Entei

Probably dogs alright, but they changed the order of the birds when they came (compared with when they were originally released) so who knows what order they'll come in.

RobbingBandit · 02-06-2018 9:01pm

Checking every kabuto and Aron too didn't think I'd get a shiny but got lucky caught meditite on last day of that event so I may get lucky on Tuesday. Got a few Aerodactyl from the evole a kabuto research but they're all crap IVs still makes up for getting my a## kicked by aero raids

RobbingBandit · 02-06-2018 9:02pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Probably dogs alright, but they changed the order of the birds when they came (compared with when they were originally released) so who knows what order they'll come in.

Birds were 3,2,1

RobbingBandit · 02-06-2018 9:05pm

I'm stuck on excellent curve ball now but I hope Mew is changed soon even if I don't get one it's been ages now maybe take Mewtwo out of EX and add that to the research. Or Celebi.

Rooy · 02-06-2018 10:03pm

alchemist33 wrote: »

Still shinyless from this event, just like the fighting one. It's getting pretty frustrating. Also the only one in my house without a shiny Ho-oh! (Although they don't have a 100% one like I do)

Havent been playing as much as usual due to work for this event , but disappointing levels of the new shines around , got no Kabuto or Omanyte yet and have been checking a lot of them , and not bothering catching , with an the reports of shinies the first evening I thought they were going to be more common.
I did get 2 shiny Arons to got with the one I already had so at least have the full set of those now.

Angron · 02-06-2018 11:02pm

I was super lucky, went up to Dublin, got shiny Omanyte on O'Connell street, and then Kabuto about 20 minutes later in Trinity college.

RobbingBandit · 03-06-2018 12:06am

Weirdest hatch ever a girafarig 1029cp tolka valley park is a numel nest too gonna stock up on candy.

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