Glass - M Knight

DVD-Lots · 21-07-2018 12:48am #1

Sequel to those other films that I shall not spoil just in case.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95ghQs5AmNk

pixelburp · 21-07-2018 11:54am

'Split' really surprised me in a good way, although though the reveal at the end that led to this sequel was really clumsily handled. Still, good to see M Night Shyamalan continuing the restoration of his reputation. Slick, schlocky entertainment is clearly his forté and while laughing at the likes of The Last Airbender & The Happening made for good schadenfreude, Shyamalan is clearly a talented individual

gmisk · 21-07-2018 12:04pm

Great trailer looks good to me

cursai · 21-07-2018 12:24pm

i dont know. that trailer looks dodgey.

Slydice · 21-07-2018 1:30pm

Has potential ...

Agent Coulson · 21-07-2018 6:03pm

I see a Haley Joel twist to link another film.......Not really

artvanderlay · 21-07-2018 7:12pm

That is the best trailer i have seen in a loooooong time. Looks amazing! Hope the movie is a cracker; Bruce could do with a hit!

JP Liz V1 · 22-07-2018 10:29pm

Willis needs a hit

Skerries · 24-07-2018 12:19pm

I really enjoyed The Visit and Split recently so looks like he is back on form again

yourdeadwright · 25-07-2018 3:16pm

I got to say this looks very good , McAvoy in split was amazing ,

pixelburp · 11-10-2018 5:19pm

Another trailer popped up: more plot-focused. It looks pretty nuts and hopefully coaxes a good performance out of Willis for once.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ztHi9ejp4

Slydice · 12-12-2018 1:06am

International trailer

Lemlin · 12-01-2019 9:22pm

Film out next weekend. Any early reviews?

Basq · 12-01-2019 10:13pm

Lemlin wrote: »

Film out next weekend. Any early reviews?

Yeah, seems to be generally regarded as a bit of a mess unfortunately!

speedboatchase · 13-01-2019 8:46am

Reviews indicate that the bulk of the movie has Willis and McAvoy in a psych ward being told that they don't actually have superpowers. Riveting :rolleyes:

Dades · 14-01-2019 2:24pm

Disappointing if so... I only got around to watching Split over the weekend in anticipation (fantastic).

correction · 14-01-2019 2:28pm

I was quite disappointed when the initial reviews came out but then the reviewers that I watch the most (Collider and Screen Junkies usually) gave it positive reviews so I'm still looking forward to it.

restive · 18-01-2019 3:22pm

I saw split but I have not seen unbreakable, do I need to see it before seeing glass?

Goodshape · 18-01-2019 3:32pm

restive wrote: »

I saw split but I have not seen unbreakable, do I need to see it before seeing glass?

Watch it anyway, it's pretty good.

Johnmb · 18-01-2019 11:03pm

restive wrote: »

I saw split but I have not seen unbreakable, do I need to see it before seeing glass?

Two of the three main characters were introduced in Unbreakable, so it wouldn't hurt to know their background. Having said that, other than introducing the characters, I don't think you'd need to see it to follow the story of Glass from what I've read of it.

Lemlin · 18-01-2019 11:03pm

correction wrote: »

I was quite disappointed when the initial reviews came out but then the reviewers that I watch the most (Collider and Screen Junkies usually) gave it positive reviews so I'm still looking forward to it.

Kermode has given it a positive review too.

Sad Professor · 18-01-2019 11:23pm

It's worth keeping it mind that this is a fairly low budget film. It cost twice Split's (shoestring) budget but a quarter of Unbreakable's. So don't expect a big spectacular end to the (loose) trilogy.

Movie Maestro · 19-01-2019 12:54am

Saw this today. Bit of a 'meh' storyline. I was expecting a lot more. Worth going to see for McEvoy's acting, absolutely amazing, he completely steals every scene!

restive · 19-01-2019 1:13am

I saw this tonight. After watching it I streamed unbreakable on Youtube. Unbreakable is a great film with a decent plot twist, that you can see coming. It does not distract from film.

I enjoyed the first 3/4 of Glass, but the last 1/4 was M. Night Shyamalan at his worst. I did not buy into it. I thought it had nothing to do with the trilogy. As in where did that just come from?

fritzelly · 19-01-2019 1:27am

restive wrote: »

I enjoyed the first 3/4 of Glass, but the last 1/4 was M. Night Shyamalan at his worst. I did not buy into it. I thought it had nothing to do with the trilogy. As in where did that just come from?

So pretty much like most of his most recent film involvements
Checked some of the reviews on IMDb and they were so glowing it leads me to believe it's crap
Liked Unbreakable, Split left me blah - confused movie. Don't think I'll bother seeing it in the cinema

Bowlardo · 19-01-2019 8:52pm

I can’t understand the bad reviews for this. I honestly think i’d Give this 5 stars. It’s the best movie i’ve Seen in the cinema in a good few years.

Went to afternoon show so there was only a few people in it which added to the experience .

McEvoy is class in it. The ending is a quality but knights ending can split opinions. It wraps up the triology. Loved the ending.

How did he make it for 20 million. Really was breath of fresh air for anyone suffering from marvel fatigue

Bowlardo · 19-01-2019 8:54pm

fritzelly wrote: »

So pretty much like most of his most recent film involvements
Checked some of the reviews on IMDb and they were so glowing it leads me to believe it's crap
Liked Unbreakable, Split left me blah - confused movie. Don't think I'll bother seeing it in the cinema

Jesus You sound like me before I went to it. Definitely go to it think you’ll be pleasantly surprised

oneilla · 20-01-2019 12:56am

Watched this tonight. I thought it was the pits and I was looking forward to it. I guess it just live up to any expectations I had.

Drumpot · 20-01-2019 1:43am

Bowlardo wrote: »

I can’t understand the bad reviews for this. I honestly think i’d Give this 5 stars. It’s the best movie i’ve Seen in the cinema in a good few years.

Went to afternoon show so there was only a few people in it which added to the experience .

McEvoy is class in it. The ending is a quality but knights ending can split opinions. It wraps up the triology. Loved the ending.

How did he make it for 20 million. Really was breath of fresh air for anyone suffering from marvel fatigue

I was quite excited about it and really enjoyed it but I can see why it could divide opinion.

Ending was a little “oh , right so that’s it then “ for me but I still enjoyed the ride and glad I saw it.

Charlie19 · 20-01-2019 9:29pm

I loved unbreakable and the ending is up there with the best, it totally blew me away.

Split was a brilliant film from start to finish, McAvoy is very good at what he does.

But I would've just preferred a sequel to split and not combining the two movies, I felt it was too long and was a bit of a mess tbh.

McAvoy's performance was the only thing that held the film together.

Mr E · 21-01-2019 12:35am

I really loved this. It was a great story, it tied into the other two movies very well (particularly how it linked Kevin to Unbreakable) and I loved the climax and ending.
It was better than Split too.

With 36% on RT and 42 on Metacritic, this is one where the critics got it COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY wrong.

Loved it.

Johnmb · 21-01-2019 12:38am

Mr E wrote: »

I really loved this. It was a great story, it tied into the other two movies very well (particularly how it linked Kevin to Unbreakable) and I loved the climax and ending.
It was better than Split too.

With 36% on RT and 42 on Metacritic, this is one where the critics got it COMPLETELY AND UTTERLY wrong.

Loved it.

Yep, I enjoyed it. I didn't see the twist coming either, I knew there'd be one obviously, but wasn't quite expecting what came. Nice to be surprised in a world where most modern movies have become very predictable!

Mitch Connor · 21-01-2019 10:18am

I really liked it. thought it was very interesting, and i freaking love McAvoy as this character.

Couple of things...

KC benging on about Metropolis being New York as is this is some kind of revelation... WTF? Are you thick? How can you think that is an argument.

The really weird and REALLY BAD sketch drawing of the Osaka building in the Philli skyline - that was jarringly terrible. An intentional attempt to look like a comic panel for that moment?

correction · 22-01-2019 10:48am

Saw it on Friday night and absolutely loved it. I thought Unbreakable was an excellent film and enjoyed Split too so this would be very high up on the greatest trilogy's (though I've seen people say it's not a trilogy?) list for me. I've noticed in general the audience reception has been quite positive in comparison to the critics.

Have to say I'm looking forward to the next M Night film. He had an extremely rough period to put it mildly but I thought his early films were great and I've enjoyed his last 3. He's not afraid to take risks and while it's not for every body and certainly doesn't come off all the time I think it's important to have his type making movies in the mainstream.

ThePott · 23-01-2019 6:40pm

I was really enjoying this movie until the last act it became a total mess in my opinion.

Illogical and overbearing in it's dialogue about comic books. It had potential but I think it became an absolute shambles towards the end.

bennyl10 · 23-01-2019 10:20pm

Saw it last night!
Absolutely loved it!

Peak M.Night, and yes the ending is a little convoluted at times, but it ties in all 3 very well, without going OTT on it!

Think I preferred it to Split but slightly under unbreakable.
Critics are idiots!

Lefty2Guns · 24-01-2019 9:16am

Went to see it last night myself. Was expecting it to be a bit better to be honest. Found it too slow. Wouldn't be rushing to the cinema to watch it. Overall I'd give 3/5 stars with the performance of James McAvoy dragging it up from a 2/5.

I really enjoyed both Unbreakable and Split. Just felt MNS tried to combine the two without really having an idea of how to do it.

Venom · 24-01-2019 3:23pm

Autecher · 26-01-2019 10:29pm

I saw this today and thought it was enjoyable nonsense that was about 20 minutes too long

TheValeyard · 27-01-2019 11:48am

Saw it last night. Really enjoyed it. Dragged a little bit towards the end, but for the most part, very enjoyable.

homerun_homer · 28-01-2019 11:11am

Quite disappointed by the end result of this, after the build up since Split, and the time between Unbreakable to now that Shymalan had to form a story. I should have known better, but at least the reviews before hand had me not too hyped going in. It's RT score is a bit harsh, it's not great but it's not that bad. It was at least entertaining but it's not a satisfying conclusion, and just does more

Shymalan world building by throwing in this new secret group with their own agenda. It's a shame they were cooped up for so much of the movie and then all killed off.

Gwynplaine · 29-01-2019 10:34am

Saw it Sunday night. Loved it.

tunguska · 29-01-2019 10:32pm

I want to see this but I havent seen split. Ive seen Unbreakable though. Would I need to have seen Split before I watch this?

ThePott · 29-01-2019 11:48pm

I would say so, there's a lot of Split in there maybe even more so than Unbreakable.

Split is on Netflix if that helps

The Moleman · 29-01-2019 11:49pm

A fantastic film.

Great story and performances.

I was expecting the film

to focus on Elijah and I am disappointed there wasn't more screentime for Jackson and Wilis

but a great film regardless.

Mokuba · 20-02-2019 1:48am

This isn't even a 10th of the movie that Unbreakable was.

It has some clunky issues in it's first and second act. With the 3 kept apart, it feels like separate movies and a lot of the conversations are repeated. It still has some decent scenes and moments - though it promised more. And it seemed like it was ready to deliver when Glass became a character, and the trio got in a room together for the first time.

I absolutely loved everything from when the three get into a room together to the point where the first twist is revealed by the son. Loved. Which is why I am so let down by the remainder.

I don't understand the point of the main twist. It felt it existed just to subvert expectations, just because M Night needs to have a twist. They introduced an organisation in the final 10 minutes as the masterminds of the plot, and we are supposed to be happy 8 minutes later when they get their unexpected comeuppance? But I don't even know who these guys are or know anything about them. Why are you building this up as a huge victory? I literally don't understand it?

They should have just had Sarah Paulson's character be an extreme skeptic rather than some mastermind. She could still have introduced doubt to the leads. Would have worked far better and allowed the finale to be about the characters that we have enjoyed over the years rather than some shady organisation.

And there is no forgiveness to how they concluded David's arc. Absolutely disgraceful. You subverted us again M.Night!

Johnmb wrote: »

Nice to be surprised in a world where most modern movies have become very predictable!

Yeah, in the same way it would be nice to be surprised by your cat taking a dump on the sitting room carpet instead of in the kitchen.

Johnmb · 21-02-2019 8:48pm

Mokuba wrote: »

Yeah, in the same way it would be nice to be surprised by your cat taking a dump on the sitting room carpet instead of in the kitchen.

Not every movie needs a happy ending. This was a brutal and unheroic ending, but with the final action it remained true to the characters. It showed that while the shady organisation thought it had all bases covered, Glass truly was a mastermind and was one step ahead all the way.

Mokuba · 21-02-2019 10:06pm

Johnmb wrote: »

Not every movie needs a happy ending. This was a brutal and unheroic ending, but with the final action it remained true to the characters. It showed that while the shady organisation thought it had all bases covered, Glass truly was a mastermind and was one step ahead all the way.

You're missing some of my point.

Why did we have to plot twist in a "shady organisation" into the final minutes of the final act, in the third movie of what was effectively a trilogy? Nobody wanted that. Clearly people would have preferred some more concrete resolution to the characters we spent two prior movies getting to know, rather than have to set up a new villain in the final moments of a trilogy to be defeated (by another villain) at the expense of the lives of the main characters!

M. Night Shymalan presented Glass' outmaneuvering of the organisation as some sort of triumph and a huge victory. Why is this a victory? This organisation has not been developed in any meaningful way. Why would we care? Why would we care that a villain who was presented as a terrible person in Unbreakable (A MASS MURDERER!) had bested this organisation that the audience knew nothing about?

Why didn't the organisation just kill them all at the beginning? What was the point of keeping them alive for the whole movie. The doctors explanation of wanting to initially convince them they are not special, in order to spare them does not wash when you consider that they have killed others like them many times before. They are murderers. Why bother with the rooms and the time and effort when one of them could accidentally re-discover that they are gifted later on in life! It makes no sense whatsoever. Why would David even doubt something he had been doing for TWENTY YEARS. It took her all of 3 days to have him almost believe that his powers were 20 years worth of coincidence. What rubbish.

Not every movie needs a happy ending but I have never seen one do it's hero such a disservice by having them die in a puddle to be part of a final twist reveal. It's an attempt to subvert expectations that went badly, badly wrong and it seems you only like it because it subverted expections - regardless of how horrifically it did that and of how pointless and illogical those subversions were.

Johnmb · 22-02-2019 9:32pm

Mokuba wrote: »

You're missing some of my point.

Why did we have to plot twist in a "shady organisation" into the final minutes of the final act, in the third movie of what was effectively a trilogy? Nobody wanted that. Clearly people would have preferred some more concrete resolution to the characters we spent two prior movies getting to know, rather than have to set up a new villain in the final moments of a trilogy to be defeated (by another villain) at the expense of the lives of the main characters!

I think you are projecting what you wanted onto everyone else.

M. Night Shymalan presented Glass' outmaneuvering of the organisation as some sort of triumph and a huge victory. Why is this a victory? This organisation has not been developed in any meaningful way. Why would we care? Why would we care that a villain who was presented as a terrible person in Unbreakable (A MASS MURDERER!) had bested this organisation that the audience knew nothing about?

He achieved his goal from Unbreakable. It wasn't a victory over the shady organisation. They weren't a new villain, they were a tool used by the original villain to achieve his goal, that was the final twist.

Why didn't the organisation just kill them all at the beginning? What was the point of keeping them alive for the whole movie. The doctors explanation of wanting to initially convince them they are not special, in order to spare them does not wash when you consider that they have killed others like them many times before. They are murderers. Why bother with the rooms and the time and effort when one of them could accidentally re-discover that they are gifted later on in life! It makes no sense whatsoever. Why would David even doubt something he had been doing for TWENTY YEARS. It took her all of 3 days to have him almost believe that his powers were 20 years worth of coincidence. What rubbish.

The point of the organisation was that they weren't murderers or villains, they didn't take sides. Their purpose was to eliminate super-powered people. Execution was a last resort.

Not every movie needs a happy ending but I have never seen one do it's hero such a disservice by having them die in a puddle to be part of a final twist reveal. It's an attempt to subvert expectations that went badly, badly wrong and it seems you only like it because it subverted expections - regardless of how horrifically it did that and of how pointless and illogical those subversions were.

The film was about a villain, named after him. For him to win, it was likely that the hero would be defeated. You claim it went badly wrong, but that is just your opinion. Many others liked it.

Frank O. Pinion · 03-04-2019 2:10pm

Well, that's easily my favourite superhero trilogy, and much better than any of the predictable crap Marvel/DC produce.

Heroes can die.

Glass - M Knight

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