Simone O’Broin: If i say boycott.... done.

Hamsterchops · 05-07-2019 3:57pm

Odhinn wrote: »

A disturbed person, facing a very disfiguring amputation, and evidently abusing drink on a regular basis, with a career in tatters. It's somewhat tragic and not something to pile agendas on.

Yes indeed, very disturbed and very angry by all accounts.
Ended it all by jumping off Beachy Head, (scary way to go).

I feel so sorry for her family, specially if she had a husband & children....

lawred2 · 05-07-2019 4:22pm

Hamsterchops wrote: »

Yes indeed, very disturbed and very angry by all accounts.
Ended it all by jumping off Beachy Head, (scary way to go).

I feel so sorry for her family, specially if she had a husband & children....

that I wasn't aware of...

Atoms for Peace · 05-07-2019 5:31pm

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Honestly glad i don't have a twitter.

To paraphrase the great Brandon Flowers: I'm a twit, but I'm not on Twitter.

gctest50 · 05-07-2019 5:42pm

Odhinn wrote: »

A disturbed person, facing a very disfiguring amputation, and evidently abusing drink on a regular basis, with a career in tatters. It's somewhat tragic and not something to pile agendas on.

Odhinn wrote: »

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facing a very disfiguring amputation, .....

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She put acid on her own nose until there was a hole in it and claimed it had cured the skin cancer there

For trying to help popularise that particular treatment, i hope she died screaming

Atoms for Peace · 05-07-2019 5:45pm

The whole BDS thing has a very shady origin. It's looking like it's best to not get involved.

inforfun · 05-07-2019 5:47pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Wouldn't be the first one at all but it also means that there isn't a vicious side to online that looks to try and punish people as much as possible for online indiscretions being judge jury and executioner.

One does not excuse the other and the big concern is that politicians who are already making inroads to control more of online content will use cases like these to socialize the web.

Dont worry... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/2/frederica-wilson-calls-for-online-pranksters-to-be/

Potential-Monke · 05-07-2019 6:21pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

But what are they going to do, risk going to jail for 20 years in order to kill someone they got pissed off about after watching a YouTube video? It's a totally empty threat. Keyboard warriors simply aren't worth the time getting real-life upset by.

Ah...

Florida shooting: Video gamer kills two at tournament (just as an example - many cases of similar stuff out there)
The Murder of Breck Bednar
Multiple accounts of this - Swatting

Yeah, back in the day the threats were empty. Not so much anymore. It's easier to just not get involved in the first place.

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Well I didn't like her obviously.

But I am sorry she is dead. Not just for her family but for her too.

It's sad.

This is what I don't understand (not targeting you Vibes, just the view that many others share). I didn't know of her before this. From what I've read and seen, she was a giant cnut who was most likely racist. As a human rights lawyer or something like that. Then gets pissed, smokes on a plane and racially abuses the staff. She gets prison time, it was that bad, poured acid on her own face thinking it would cure cancer, and a week after getting out of prison is dead.

I don't feel sorry for her. I don't feel sorry for her family or friends. I just don't feel for her. It's fake empathy imo. I've no problems if someone does feel empathy for her, I just can't understand why. It's not a 'feeling for other humans' thing, I reckon it's more 'look how empathetic I am', but again, all just my personal opinion.

Odhinn · 05-07-2019 6:42pm

gctest50 wrote: »

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She put acid on her own nose until there was a hole in it and claimed it had cured the skin cancer there

For trying to help popularise that particular treatment, i hope she died screaming

This doesn't strike you - in the context of all else - as the behaviour of a deeply disturbed individual?

Hammer89 · 05-07-2019 6:42pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I don't mean to sound flippant because the number of cases like this in recent years shows that obviously many people do genuinely care what random internet strangers have to say about them, I just have genuinely spent many years trying as hard as I can to get into that mindset and I just can't do it. It doesn't compute, at all. I cannot comprehend on any level how anyone could care what [insert random strangers' name here] has to say. If you don't know someone in real life, if what they're writing to you doesn't materially affect your actual real life relationships in any way, then what of it? It's utterly meaningless, and it's really sad that anyone would take the internet seriously enough to self-harm over the idiotic ramblings of people who have no relationship with them outside the computer screen.

That's because you've also spent many years on the internet. Since 2005 you've written 16,000 posts here. You obviously use Reddit too. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with a substantial post count; I'm saying it paints a picture of someone who is very initiated and familiar of how nasty the internet can be. You have a tonne of experience.

But pretend you didn't. Pretend you were a 50-year-old woman, the subject of national shame, who probably only used the internet for booking a flight or conversing with friends on FB or Googling a restaurant's phone number or reading The Irish Times. Pretend you had zero experience of the darker side of the internet, the side of the internet that can and does contribute to the suicide of much younger people who know what trolls are and just how nasty they can be.

Can you not see how she might've been frightened and overwhelmed by a new world suddenly being opened up to her?

Hammer89 · 05-07-2019 6:56pm

This is the only post on her Facebook that's visible to the public now. In response to a friend, she wrote: "Hey Im..just settin up n no idea what im doin!xx" She wrote it a year ago.

Calhoun · 05-07-2019 6:56pm

gctest50 wrote: »

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She put acid on her own nose until there was a hole in it and claimed it had cured the skin cancer there

For trying to help popularise that particular treatment, i hope she died screaming

Seems a bit unhinged to wish someone with obvious issues died screaming.

There are many people online today with incorrect opinions (from a scientific perspective) and it's up to individuals to know when it's bull**** . Or the soon to be implemented online censors to sort

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Hammer89 · 05-07-2019 7:01pm

Calhoun wrote: »

Seems a bit unhinged to wish someone with obvious issues died screaming.

He doesn't really mean it. It's just silly internet hyperbole but unless you know the internet then you're not going to know that, and the same applies to death threats or threats of violence.

Calhoun · 05-07-2019 7:09pm

Hammer89 wrote: »

He doesn't really mean it. It's just silly internet hyperbole but unless you know the internet then you're not going to know that, and the same applies to death threats or threats of violence.

I understand it very well the problem is that legislators don't know the difference.

Put this into perspective of a world where people go out of there way to dox you and put home addresses online it can be portrayed in a very bad way.

Calhoun · 05-07-2019 7:13pm

inforfun wrote: »

Dont worry... https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/jul/2/frederica-wilson-calls-for-online-pranksters-to-be/

The Irish version will come along at some stage , look at the likes of the BAI wanted to monitor Facebook ECT.

Hammer89 · 05-07-2019 7:16pm

Calhoun wrote: »

I understand it very well the problem is that legislators don't know the difference.

Put this into perspective of a world where people go out of there way to dox you and put home addresses online it can be portrayed in a very bad way.

I know you know it. The question is was the woman experienced enough to recognise online abuse as run-of-the-mill internet hyperbole and the answer, I believe, is no.

Calhoun · 05-07-2019 7:19pm

Hammer89 wrote: »

I know you know it. The question is was the woman experienced enough to recognise online abuse as run-of-the-mill internet hyperbole and the answer, I believe, is no.

I think personally we as society today lend way much credibility to online and the importance of it in our lives. People who grew up with it from the beginning are way more shielded than young people of today.

Look at the new forms of bullying that goes on with it ECT.

06-07-2019 1:47am

you can be deeply disturbed and also a total cnut. drawing parallels between her behaviour and the consequences vs blameless individuals being targetted for actual real world harassment or violence is very slippery stuff.

and while id say her shame at her very public disgrace was a factor in her death, to hang any particular agenda on the suicide of someone so obviously disturbed is shaky ground imo. its very fair to say the main causes of her death were her own actions throughout

at what stage and through what mechanisms do you step in to prevent those actions rather than expecting the world to accommodate her hateful behaviour? should she have been allowed on the internet? access to acid? alcohol? plane travel?

7 billion ppl in the world, lots of them make it worse not better, the extent to which we should mourn them or wring our hands over each one and what 'we' could have done is a personal decision but lets not minimise her behaviours in order to castigate modern society here, thats lazy bandwagoning imo

ILoveYourVibes · 06-07-2019 1:52am

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

I don’t even know who chabad is or are.

Orthodox Jewish Hasidic movement. The Dublin rabbi Zalman Lent is a Chabad Rabbi.

The Poway shooting was at a chabad synagogue.

She made that post after it happened. I doubt she actually knew what chabad were until after it got into the news.

Started in Russia spread out to the US and Europe.

ILoveYourVibes · 06-07-2019 1:54am

gctest50 wrote: »

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She put acid on her own nose until there was a hole in it and claimed it had cured the skin cancer there

For trying to help popularise that particular treatment, i hope she died screaming

What? Is this real?

ILoveYourVibes · 06-07-2019 1:56am

Potential-Monke wrote: »

I don't feel sorry for her. I don't feel sorry for her family or friends. I just don't feel for her. It's fake empathy imo. I've no problems if someone does feel empathy for her, I just can't understand why. It's not a 'feeling for other humans' thing, I reckon it's more 'look how empathetic I am', but again, all just my personal opinion.

That's ok that is just your reaction. We are all different.

ILoveYourVibes · 06-07-2019 1:56am

Did she really put acid on her nose ? I can't find that.

gctest50 · 06-07-2019 2:04am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Did she really put acid on her nose ? I can't find that.

"Black Salve" she put on it,

this craic :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3617857/amp/Woman-half-nose-cut-herbal-remedy-used-skin-cancer-ROTTED-face.html

06-07-2019 2:05am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

Did she really put acid on her nose ? I can't find that.

known at the time of her first coming to prominence, yeah

gctest50 · 06-07-2019 2:08am

Used to be here :

https://simoneobroin.com/author/simoneobroin/

probably hoping it'd help fund her scumbag activities

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ILoveYourVibes · 06-07-2019 2:25am

gctest50 wrote: »

"Black Salve" she put on it,

this craic :

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-3617857/amp/Woman-half-nose-cut-herbal-remedy-used-skin-cancer-ROTTED-face.html

I just feel sorry for her now.

She was obviously really mentally ill and detached from reality.

Calhoun · 06-07-2019 2:47am

Saw one of those American cosmetic surgery programs when this stuff goes wrong

it aint pretty.

It does show though someones mental capability if they believe in stuff like that.

Simone O’Broin: If i say boycott.... done.

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