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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    cms88 wrote: »
    I have questions about this.

    Where has this obsession for having every game on TV ceom from?

    I seen quite a lot of people complaining that the New York and Letriem wasn't on TV. New York have been playing in the championship for 20 years ans their games have never been on TV. Why now is it an issue?

    That game and the Laois Wexford game are another example. People saying after the fact that they should have been on TV when they knew he games were good. Yet had the Laois Wexford game been poor the same people would be complaining.

    The clamour isn't that people want EVERY GAME on TV is that the choices are perplexing.

    Tyrone v Monaghan should be on TV. Football fans want to watch this.

    It's probably likely to be more absorbing than Clare v Cork.
    The only saving grace is the amount of football that we'll get from the Super 8s. So we just have to wait.


    I would imagine the real reason they aren't on is because not many people want to watch them. Is that too simple?

    No


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Tyrone v Monaghan should be on TV. Football fans want to watch this.

    I'd prefer it as well but I think it's pretty marginal either way. If C v C wasn't on there'd be people making a compelling case as to why it should be. Your perfect set of 31 TV games would include some terribly bad choices in someone elses opinion.

    From a football pov I'd be more worried about say missing out on a potential Mayo v Tyrone or suchlike first round qualifier, not sure what flexibility there is for swapsies as the qualifiers progress.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Tyrone v Monaghan should be on TV. Football fans want to watch this.

    It's probably likely to be more absorbing than Clare v Cork.
    Who would want to watch pulling and dragging in Ulster compared to the artistry of Munster hurling? Mad stuff.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Who would want to watch pulling and dragging in Ulster compared to the artistry of Munster hurling? Mad stuff.

    Artistry? Get off your high horse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    I'd prefer it as well but I think it's pretty marginal either way. If C v C wasn't on there'd be people making a compelling case as to why it should be. Your perfect set of 31 TV games would include some terribly bad choices in someone elses opinion.

    From a football pov I'd be more worried about say missing out on a potential Mayo v Tyrone or suchlike first round qualifier, not sure what flexibility there is for swapsies as the qualifiers progress.

    During this conversation yesterday about TV games this was my one concern about R1 qualifiers.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,288 ✭✭✭mickmackey1


    Artistry? Get off your high horse.
    The truth hurts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    I came on to this thread to find out why Tyrone v Monaghan isn't on any tv channel. It's a bit mad that a game like that isn't. It's not every sunday I get a chance to watch a game and the next time I can I mightn't be too bothered.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Patww79 wrote: »
    No artistry earlier but in general they're bang on. More often than not Munster hurling is the peak of Irish sport and more often than not Ulster football is a complete shítfest.

    Pat now come on. It's easy to criticise games ye never watch. And we all came to quite a concensus yesterday.

    It's been a long long time since Munster hurling has been the peak of Irish sport. Just like hurling overall.

    I'd also be tempted to call Munster football championship as the nadir of Irish sport mind you.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    The truth hurts.

    The truth? I happen to think you're talking ballix. So you'll be grand.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    This won't be of any help to most people but just for information. Some games which are not televised live may be available on satellite feeds. The Tyrone Monaghan BBC feed is on the satellite at 16 East. The channel name is Brewster Park Clean Spare, indicating that the satellite truck was in Enniskillen and they did not change the feed name. Clean feeds are those with no screen captions for time or score, Dirty feeds have the captions.

    I have a 1.1 metre satellite dish with a motor which can turn to different satellites.

    Brewster Pk Clean Spare_0160 12692_V_7200_20180520_172756.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    This won't be of any help to most people but just for information. Some games which are not televised live may be available on satellite feeds. The Tyrone Monaghan BBC feed is on the satellite at 16 East. The channel name is Brewster Park Clean Spare, indicating that the satellite truck was in Enniskillen and they did not change the feed name. Clean feeds are those with no screen captions for time or score, Dirty feeds have the captions.

    I have a 1.1 metre satellite dish with a motor which can turn to different satellites.

    Brewster Pk Clean Spare_0160 12692_V_7200_20180520_172756.jpg

    That's good to know for future.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,085 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation



    Weather matching the gawk on McConville.

    I'll need to pick your brains over your set up soon when I move into the new gaff. Mental note to BS. Mental note.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,386 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    There are a few of us on the Foreign Satellite forum.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=622

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057701967

    Most of the feeds now are in the 4:2:2 format which can't be resolved on any normal satellite receivers. But they can be streamed to a PC which is where I got those pictures. But a lot of them are also encrypted. You need a big dish and a motor.

    I wouldn't invest a lot of money now because the trend is already there to move to fibre back to the studios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Real issue with Ulster games is that BBC have decided not to bother showing them any more.

    Yesterday was a bit mad with at least 5 games that you would watch so impossible to show them all. Game in Wexford was brilliant, as apparently was Mon/Tyrone,


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Real issue with Ulster games is that BBC have decided not to bother showing them any more.

    Yesterday was a bit mad with at least 5 games that you would watch so impossible to show them all. Game in Wexford was brilliant, as apparently was Mon/Tyrone,
    Nothing to do with BBC deciding not to bother, they can only show games that RTE show at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    Sky Sports have announced (unsurprisingly) that Meath v Tyrone is the qualifier they will show on Saturday week


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    A point somebody else has raised on twitter is that this game (or any qualifier on June 9th) was not included in their original list of games.

    http://www.skysports.com/gaa/hurling/news/30543/11363682/sky-sports-reveals-2018-gaa-championship-fixtures

    Are they dropping one of the hurling games they were going to show?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    If I had read Sky's tweet I would have got the answer. They are dropping the Galway Dublin hurling game. Still showing Kilkenny v Wexford


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Agree. There'll be something at stake in the qualifier at least. I think its a good decision. That weekend we get two live games in each code. RTE are split between hurling and football on the Sunday too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,699 ✭✭✭thesultan


    What games have we for Sunday?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    thesultan wrote: »
    What games have we for Sunday?


    Ulster SFC Semi-Final - Monaghan vs Fermanagh @2pm on RTE

    Munster SHC Round 3 - Waterford vs Tipperary @4pm on RTE


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Comortas peile na Gaeltachta on TG4 tomorrow from 5:30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,457 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Meath-Tyrone is going to extra time. Sky look like they will continue showing it. What about KK-Wexford game starting at 7...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,626 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    Meath-Tyrone is going to extra time. Sky look like they will continue showing it. What about KK-Wexford game starting at 7...

    Sky blah blah, great coverage blah blah, much better than FTA blah blah,.....

    Monumental fcuk up not showing the hurling, and showing the dregs of the football qualifier and it a dead game once extra time started.

    Imagine the furore if it was RTE???


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,426 ✭✭✭wirelessdude01


    No win scenario for them really. Agree that extra time always takes precedence over start of new game.


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    Sky blah blah, great coverage blah blah, much better than FTA blah blah,.....

    Monumental fcuk up not showing the hurling, and showing the dregs of the football qualifier and it a dead game once extra time started.

    Imagine the furore if it was RTE???

    A right mess IMO. In scheduling the 2 fixtures for live tv with both on the same Sky channel surely Sky and/or the GAA should have known the football fixture could have gone to extra time? What if the football had gone all the way to the kicking competition? Even less hurling would have been shown. Would it have happened with the Premier League in England? Would it f**k. Couldn't Sky have provided red button coverage of the hurling so hurling fans didn't have to miss anything?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,061 ✭✭✭irishfeen


    Sky deserve an absolute bollocking over missing the hurling yesterday, they knew 20min or more that extra time was to be played. They have many red button streams available running in the background - they could simply have announced that all sky customers who want to see the hurling hit the red button like they do with every other sport.

    The reason they didn't do it is they couldn't be bothered because its only GAA, if this was rugby, soccer even lower level Spanish league games they would have used the red button.


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    There was an easy solution if they didnt want to change the times to accommodate ET and that would have been to put the game that couldn't go to ET on first.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Patww79 wrote: »
    The end of a close game in progress should always take precedence over the start of one. Sky were dead right, but they couldn't win in the scenario anyway.

    Yes they could. They could have delayed transmission of the hurling.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Pity rte dont show Limerick v Waterford online. I'm sure they'll manage it in the world cup when 2 games clash


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,706 ✭✭✭dr.kenneth noisewater


    Pity rte dont show Limerick v Waterford online. I'm sure they'll manage it in the world cup when 2 games clash


    They're not allowed


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,266 ✭✭✭threeball


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Sky deserve an absolute bollocking over missing the hurling yesterday, they knew 20min or more that extra time was to be played. They have many red button streams available running in the background - they could simply have announced that all sky customers who want to see the hurling hit the red button like they do with every other sport.

    The reason they didn't do it is they couldn't be bothered because its only GAA, if this was rugby, soccer even lower level Spanish league games they would have used the red button.

    In fairness this one is completely on the gaa and their shambollic fixtures arrangements. Either leave space between games or give one Saturday game to rte and the other to sky. Then do the same on Sunday. Everyone can choose what to watch then.
    The boardroom levels of the gaa are a joke. No real vision or foresight with any of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    irishfeen wrote: »
    Sky deserve an absolute bollocking over missing the hurling yesterday, they knew 20min or more that extra time was to be played. They have many red button streams available running in the background - they could simply have announced that all sky customers who want to see the hurling hit the red button like they do with every other sport.

    The reason they didn't do it is they couldn't be bothered because its only GAA, if this was rugby, soccer even lower level Spanish league games they would have used the red button.

    I agree they deserve a bollicking but the reason they didn't do it is not because it's only the GAA as you say

    They are often not producing the pictures for the sports you have mentioned so it's straightforward to say its over here on the red button. They are producing the pictures for their GAA coverage.

    At the start of the season, they announced they were going to show the two hurling games last night. As they were on at the same time they would have required two production teams.

    When they changed their mind and went with the football at 5 instead of the Dublin match they obviously felt they could get away with one production team producing both games. This backfired on them hugely and thats why they should get a bollicking


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,508 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    howiya wrote: »
    At the start of the season, they announced they were going to show the two hurling games last night. As they were on at the same time they would have required two production teams.

    When they changed their mind and went with the football at 5 instead of the Dublin match they obviously felt they could get away with one production team producing both games. This backfired on them hugely and thats why they should get a bollicking

    I wonder did they ever genuinely want to show both hurling games. It seems to be a move that would cannibalize the audience a lot and is contrary to their scheduling m.o. in other sports. When you've only got 14(?) exclusive fixtures it would seem a waste to show two at the same time.

    I suspect they would have always had the plan of saying to the GAA that one game was 'dead' and it would be better for everyone to swap to the most attractive football qualifier. After that it becomes a question of who decides the start times, who decides that the possibility of a draw doesn't matter even though its somewhere around a 12% chance. And a 12% chance that is going to cause a mess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,323 ✭✭✭howiya


    I wonder did they ever genuinely want to show both hurling games. It seems to be a move that would cannibalize the audience a lot and is contrary to their scheduling m.o. in other sports. When you've only got 14(?) exclusive fixtures it would seem a waste to show two at the same time.

    I suspect they would have always had the plan of saying to the GAA that one game was 'dead' and it would be better for everyone to swap to the most attractive football qualifier. After that it becomes a question of who decides the start times, who decides that the possibility of a draw doesn't matter even though its somewhere around a 12% chance. And a 12% chance that is going to cause a mess.

    I don't think so to be honest. They've listed qualifiers in the list of games they originally published so there was nothing to stop them listing a qualifier for Saturday night.

    The "shocks" in Leinster added a couple of big names to the first round. Even at that the most appealing tie was Tyrone v Meath. I suspect they had their football analysts go through the possible football fixtures for this weekend and they originally came to the conclusion that there was nothing worth showing. Canavan would obviously have been hoping Tyrone wouldn't be in the qualifiers for example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,569 ✭✭✭✭ProudDUB


    Patww79 wrote: »
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    Damm right. The sense of entitlement from the hurling crowd is ridiculous, given how they have been spolit with TV coverage so far this year. Even if the coverage was split 50/50, the hurling game wasn't a knock out one. The football was. Of course it should take precedent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,163 ✭✭✭zetecescort


    Leinster u21 Galway v Offaly on tg4 tonight at 7:30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Clare v Limerick is on rte 1 next Sunday.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Leinster u21 Galway v Offaly on tg4 tonight at 7:30

    21s games on TG4 are usually excellent. This was probably the worst they have shown. No fault to Galway, just another reflection of how poor Offaly are at all levels. Interesting to see another Canning - Jack - come on as a sub. Did well too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭IanVW


    Any way of watching the Waterford v cork match today?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,578 ✭✭✭✭KevIRL


    IanVW wrote: »
    Any way of watching the Waterford v cork match today?

    Not on TV. Only way is by being in semple stadium


  • Registered Users Posts: 589 ✭✭✭IanVW


    KevIRL wrote: »
    Not on TV. Only way is by being in semple stadium

    Couldnt make it up today.only one im missing:P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


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