No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

wrangler · 06-05-2021 9:59pm

Say my name wrote: »

If you try some of it and understand it you will see the merit.

None of this has been taught in ag colleges or green cert courses.
Seriously buy the book and read it with an open mind. Nicole Masters - For the love of Soil. Is another good one.
Dirt to Soil comes highly recommended too but haven't read it.

It'd be a nice bit of relaxation than hearing about Beefplan.

You're a lot more fanatical about this than I ever was about beef Plan and there's a lot more agreeing with me now about them

Gillespy · 06-05-2021 10:00pm

The information is out there. Man up and find it to you sound like a vegan in a few minutes is one hell of a 180.

Say my name · 06-05-2021 10:03pm

wrangler wrote: »

You're a lot more fanatical about this than I ever was about beef Plan and there's a lot more agreeing with me now about them

Ah now you're fairly on the top tier on the subject.

Odelay · 06-05-2021 10:19pm

Any good deals on handbags?

Say my name · 06-05-2021 10:22pm

Odelay wrote: »

Any good deals on handbags?

All gone!

Base price · 06-05-2021 10:32pm

Birdnuts wrote: »

Well if that Walrus could make it to Kerry..............;)

:D

wrangler · 06-05-2021 10:32pm

Say my name wrote: »

Ah now you're fairly on the top tier on the subject.

There's not much scientific proof for what you're at,, it's the way you criticise anything different to what you do, that makes you fair game for criticism yourself.
Everyones system is different and if it ticks along it's none of anyone elses business. I wouldn't change anything I do, You do what you like on your land but don't be thinking it's euthopia

carrollsno1 · 06-05-2021 10:34pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12438352

Just have a look at the pictures comparing the neighbouring farms to the regenerative farms at least.

wrangler · 06-05-2021 10:43pm

carrollsno1 wrote: »

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.abc.net.au/article/12438352

Just have a look at the pictures comparing the neighbouring farms to the regenerative farms at least.

My farm looked grand too while I was farming it, it looks great now
We're farmers, Plenty of area not being farmed if you're worried about wildlife.
It's not the strongest species that survive but the ones with the ability to adapt.

Base price · 06-05-2021 11:14pm

Water John wrote: »

Looking to pick up a 12T trailer axle and singles, for a self build, any ideas please?

Would truck axles do? I presume any commercial breakers yard would have them although most of them nowdays are on air suspension. I presume you want leaf springs which shouldn't difficult to source on older vehicles.

Castlekeeper · 07-05-2021 7:05am

wrangler wrote: »

Ifr he's at it since 2012 and it hasn't been picked up by good farmers there can't be a lot in it.
Sounds like snake oil to me

Hundreds of very good farmers are investing their time and money and gradually changing to such methods and practices, inspired by and inspiring people like Tom, quietly doing their own research.
It's the bad farmers that aren't in tune or have their heads on the sand.
You might be hanging around with the wrong crowd?

Castlekeeper · 07-05-2021 7:09am

wrangler wrote: »

There's not much scientific proof for what you're at,, it's the way you criticise anything different to what you do, that makes you fair game for criticism yourself.
Everyones system is different and if it ticks along it's none of anyone elses business. I wouldn't change anything I do, You do what you like on your land but don't be thinking it's euthopia

That euthanasia system is a dead end...

wrangler · 07-05-2021 7:47am

Castlekeeper wrote: »

Hundreds of very good farmers are investing their time and money and gradually changing to such methods and practices, inspired by and inspiring people like Tom, quietly doing their own research.
It's the bad farmers that aren't in tune or have their heads on the sand.
You might be hanging around with the wrong crowd?

And it's a sad farmer that refers to bad farmer just because they don't do this snake oil faming..... complete scam

Can we not get the vegans back here, at least there's some reality to them

Say my name · 07-05-2021 7:54am

wrangler wrote: »

And it's a sad farmer that refers to bad farmer just because they don't do this snake oil faming..... complete scam

Can we not get the vegans back here, at least there's some reality to them

Jeez Wrangler you wouldn't happen to be related to a tractor breakers from near Kells?

wrangler · 07-05-2021 8:10am

Say my name wrote: »

Jeez Wrangler you wouldn't happen to be related to a tractor breakers from near Kells?

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

We've an unusual climate here that gives special snake oil rain, I've a five thousand litres of the stuff and will sell it to you for €1 /litre.

I honestly thought you were bluffing when you started this,

Say my name · 07-05-2021 8:44am

wrangler wrote: »

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

We've an unusual climate here that gives special snake oil rain, I've a five thousand litres of the stuff and will sell it to you for €1 /litre.

I honestly thought you were bluffing when you started this,

Ah wrangler. You've your own posting style. Don't forget you're the one that brought good and bad farmers into this.
And then it got tumbled around back and forth and you post to get reaction by calling things names you don't understand.

All I did was call the farmer featured an exemplary example of what we should all be looking to follow.
Reduced fertilizer, reduced sprays, bringing biological inputs into the system, improving soil health and carbon sequestration.

You responded by calling it snake oil. Purely because it's alien to you. That 'good' farmers are not taking this up.
I think mostly what grates with you is we've polar opposite ideals of what we think of a 'good' farmer.

With the changing landscape and changing rules and regulations down the line maybe you should give those books a read.
Just to understand.

Castlekeeper · 07-05-2021 9:53am

wrangler wrote: »

And it's a sad farmer that refers to bad farmer just because they don't do this snake oil faming..... complete scam

Can we not get the vegans back here, at least there's some reality to them

There was a time when making bread and wine was considered magic, education will help reduce the fear and paranoia.

07-05-2021 9:58am

wrangler wrote: »

Ifr he's at it since 2012 and it hasn't been picked up by good farmers there can't be a lot in it.
Sounds like snake oil to me

What you are experiencing is "That won't work here!" syndrome, do not be concerned, this is normal.

Dinzee Conlee · 07-05-2021 10:02am

wrangler wrote: »

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

We've an unusual climate here that gives special snake oil rain, I've a five thousand litres of the stuff and will sell it to you for €1 /litre.

I honestly thought you were bluffing when you started this,

I wonder if you went back in time, and asked a young Wrangler that in time he would be looking at a lambs ****e with a powerful magnifying glass, to see if they needed dosing - what would he say to you?

Yet, there ye are now, leading the charge in fecal testing...

Things are being discovered all the time. People trying new things... New ways of doing things...
Some work, some dont. But like everything, it takes while both to find what works and for new practices to be adopted / accepted...

Odelay · 07-05-2021 10:59am

wrangler wrote: »

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

We've an unusual climate here that gives special snake oil rain, I've a five thousand litres of the stuff and will sell it to you for €1 /litre.

I honestly thought you were bluffing when you started this,

At one time they thought the earth was flat..but the with a little education many have been converted...

Castlekeeper · 07-05-2021 11:06am

wrangler wrote: »

Pot and kettle comes to mind.

We've an unusual climate here that gives special snake oil rain, I've a five thousand litres of the stuff and will sell it to you for €1 /litre.

I honestly thought you were bluffing when you started this,

Actually rainwater is much better than groundwater for spraying crops, it's much easier to control the pH without having to use buffering agents, and that's agro-chemical practice, but you knew that you sly old dog

Water John · 07-05-2021 12:27pm

I suppose Nigel Renaghan shouldn't be on the IFA National Executive either?
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/organic-farming-scheme-is-the-juice-worth-the-squeeze/

Wonder where he got that lovely term 'pilgrim farmers' from? Those of us on the longer road.

wrangler · 07-05-2021 12:49pm

Water John wrote: »

I suppose Nigel Renaghan shouldn't be on the IFA National Executive either?
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/organic-farming-scheme-is-the-juice-worth-the-squeeze/

Wonder where he got that lovely term 'pilgrim farmers' from? Those of us on the longer road.

why do you say that, he's a good guy.

Grueller · 07-05-2021 1:05pm

Anyone price green diesel this week?

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 1:19pm

Grueller wrote: »

Anyone price green diesel this week?

:rolleyes: no but my dad filled his jeep with petrol a week or so ago. Didn't get far

Hard Knocks · 07-05-2021 2:44pm

whelan2 wrote: »

:rolleyes: no but my dad filled his jeep with petrol a week or so ago. Didn't get far

How’s the engine

straight · 07-05-2021 2:59pm

Grueller wrote: »

Anyone price green diesel this week?

Nope but I heard some farming bashing earlier from the echo chamber podcast from some guy that wants to shut down farming and plant the whole country. It would be a great amenity he thought. Ammonia is a major public health concern. Also he couldn't understand how green diesel was called green because its far from it. Small bit of information is a very dangerous thing.

https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly90b3J0b2lzZXNoYWNrLmllL2ZlZWQvZWNob2NoYW1iZXIv/episode/aHR0cHM6Ly90b3J0b2lzZXNoYWNrLmllLz9wPTkzODg?ep=14

blue5000 · 07-05-2021 3:10pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

How’s the engine

Clean as a whistle. I did it too last summer, luckily enough when I went to pay for it they told me, so it was a simple enough job to drain the tank before I got too far.

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 5:29pm

Hard Knocks wrote: »

How’s the engine

Grand he didn't drive it far before it started spluttering. Got it towed away and drained .

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 5:30pm

Base price wrote: »

I had a dream last night that a polar bear miraculously appeared on the small lake that shores some of our land. This was no ordinary polar bear - he was clever enough to bring his own iceberg to cool down. The rest of the dream was us panicking trying to extend the fence posts so we could run more strands of electric fence wire to keep him out.

I woke up at six this morning, drew back the curtains, looked down at the lake and smiled to myself. I went outside to check on one of the cull cows that had sprung up like a balloon yesterday and she wasn't in good shape. She was lying down with her head in the hedge and no sign of a calf. I gave her a bottle of calcium and magnesium under the skin and OH phoned the Vet. A young Vet arrived within the hour and OH and I both looked uncertainly at one another. We couldn't have been more mistaken with this young Vet, he was super. He examined the cow, confirmed it was milk fever and jacked out a live angus heifer calf. He then went about treating the cow and IMO did all that he could do and more. 15 minutes after he left the cow was up allbeit a bit wobbly but we got the calf sucked. I phoned the practice to ask them to let him know cause he was genuinely interested on how she progressed. She is currently in a small paddock with the calf and she grazed a little on and off this afternoon. Hopefully she will continue to improve.

How's the cow and calf. Do you find much work with the sucklers, compared to rearing calves?

wrangler · 07-05-2021 6:36pm

RIP

https://scontent.fdub4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/84411170_2761920037177291_7209852829748428800_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-3&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=StWiMWczlhQAX8N04Vo&_nc_oc=AQnNeqNjKet3k9z7cYPgSbyU8lcSk202F8uOLE6y6h5rIxFdnD72RebdjAjGR2TWbO8&_nc_ht=scontent.fdub4-1.fna&oh=e0b5033082288ff4bdc8ce51f05d6007&oe=60BB6592

07-05-2021 6:58pm

straight wrote: »

he couldn't understand how green diesel was called green because its far from it.

Water John · 07-05-2021 8:01pm

Darkenss into Light:
https://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/reach-out-for-help-urges-paddys-family-on-eve-of-darkness-into-light/

A time to think of rural people who are under stress and isolated.

Base price · 07-05-2021 8:19pm

whelan2 wrote: »

How's the cow and calf. Do you find much work with the sucklers, compared to rearing calves?

The calf is fine but the cow isn't as good as she was. She is nipping grass but stopped drinking. OH got the Vet earlier and he gave her another IV fluids. She is in the garden at the moment cause the grass is long as I didn't cut it to let bees make use of the dandelions. She is a friesian cow that was the last of the 7 that turned out to be in calf. We got 1 fresian bull, 3 whiteheads (1b,2h) and 3 angus (2b, 1h). I noticed another one springing up the other day. We didn't scan since OH broke his collar bone.
The sucklers were great with little or no issues calving, most of them are sold with their calves at foot.

DukeCaboom · 07-05-2021 9:34pm

whelan2 wrote: »

:rolleyes: no but my dad filled his jeep with petrol a week or so ago. Didn't get far

Our rule here is who ever puts the wrong diesel into the car or jeep is the one who has to suck the pipe to get it back out...... rarely someone has done it twice

wrangler · 07-05-2021 9:41pm

DukeCaboom wrote: »

Our rule here is who ever puts the wrong diesel into the car or jeep is the one who has to suck the pipe to get it back out...... rarely someone has done it twice

use a longer pipe and fill it with water..... that'll start it flowing

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 10:06pm

Anyone doing darkness into light in the morning? I donated there in case the weather is bad

carrollsno1 · 07-05-2021 10:12pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Anyone doing darkness into light in the morning? I donated there in case the weather is bad

On the road for 5 does that count i wonder? Never attended an event for it before but will look into it bext year.

roosterman71 · 07-05-2021 10:13pm

Are Pieta another of the charities that were taking the piss?

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 10:18pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

Are Pieta another of the charities that were taking the piss?

Pieta and the samaritans were very helpful when we had issues with my sister. Would always donate to them.

roosterman71 · 07-05-2021 10:32pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Pieta and the samaritans were very helpful when we had issues with my sister. Would always donate to them.

Not disputing that they do a lot of good. Was just wondering where they caught up as one of the charities that were acting the maggot.

Odelay · 07-05-2021 10:42pm

roosterman71 wrote: »

Not disputing that they do a lot of good. Was just wondering where they caught up as one of the charities that were acting the maggot.

Not that I'm aware of. Some bad apples, but the barrel isn't always affected.

whelan2 · 07-05-2021 10:48pm

Console was the one that was caught big time in 2017

Cool Hand Lucy · 07-05-2021 10:56pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Anyone doing darkness into light in the morning? I donated there in case the weather is bad

I’m doing it and will be thinking of a good friend every second of the journey.

07-05-2021 11:00pm

Have to give credit to JFC Agri, I tweeted about a replacement bung for very old drinkers and 3 minutes later, late on a Friday night they've replied to me!

Kevhog1988 · 07-05-2021 11:06pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have to give credit to JFC Agri, I tweeted about a replacement bung for very old drinkers and 3 minutes later, late on a Friday night they've replied to me!

I noticed that. Fair play to them.

Kevhog1988 · 07-05-2021 11:09pm

whelan2 wrote: »

Console was the one that was caught big time in 2017

pietas directors all on massive salaries. I have donated to them a lot in the past and ran a 5k everyday in november for sponsorship for them last year but wont be donating to them again. No point in me running around the roads of kildare like an eejit for them to be paying it out in directors wages.

Say my name · 07-05-2021 11:24pm

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Have to give credit to JFC Agri, I tweeted about a replacement bung for very old drinkers and 3 minutes later, late on a Friday night they've replied to me!

I was going to reply, use some whittled timber to fit.
Don't have to now.:D

07-05-2021 11:36pm

Say my name wrote: »

I was going to reply, use some whittled timber to fit.
Don't have to now.:D

I'm hoping *they* don't reply with that

Thinking back actually, it wouldn't be the first time for one of them. But it leaked, so a bit of a feed bag was put around the timber bung to rectify that.

Waffletraktor · 07-05-2021 11:54pm

Deleted User wrote: »

What you are experiencing is "That won't work here!" syndrome, do not be concerned, this is normal.

Does he need to figure out if he's gabe brown's neighbour too?

No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Comments