The Pat Kenny Show

EmmetSpiceland · 30-04-2021 12:05pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

"Junkies have ruined the boardwalk"

Next time I'm in the city centre, I must remember to tap some young man on the shoulder, and explain how inconvenient I find his catastrophic, fatal addiction. I just want to enjoy the river, why is he in the way?

30-04-2021 12:06pm

meeeeh wrote: »

You might struggle to understand but I'm absolutely delighted that hairdressers are reopening. I get colour and highlights and I'm not doing that at home. I dyed my hair plenty of times before but not the style I have now. Kids also need haircuts, Daughter's hair started to split.

I don't understand why restarting of GAA for example is so important to people but I don't dismiss it as something superficious.

We all have different little joys and at the moment pedicure and haircut are two things I really look forward to.

Yes, fair cop. Perhaps one thing we might all be more aware of is the diversity of personal needs. People who missed the barber or hairdresser will be delighted, and nobody wants to piss on that.

Barna77 · 30-04-2021 12:33pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

Very good point made about people here not bothered to tidy a table at fast food joints, leaving the mess for someone else. Says it all about the irish attitude really.

Something I've learned in Ireland: that's not my job work ethic.
What I've seen and experienced, not that I'm a lazy arse myself

humberklog · 30-04-2021 1:18pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

"The likes of Denis O'Brien, who has shown leadership in... developing leaders".

That's a strange way of describing "assistance" to politicians.

"John Delaney could run anything".

whisky_galore · 30-04-2021 2:42pm

Barna77 wrote: »

Something I've learned in Ireland: that's not my job work ethic.
What I've seen and experienced, not that I'm a lazy arse myself

Except it's not a job, its being a decent human being.
Grown adults behaving like moody teens, sticking it to 'the man' by being messy counts.

hotmail.com · 30-04-2021 4:48pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

"Junkies have ruined the boardwalk"

Next time I'm in the city centre, I must remember to tap some young man on the shoulder, and explain how inconvenient I find his catastrophic, fatal addiction. I just want to enjoy the river, why is he in the way?

Interesting that some terms are still acceptable on the radio and other things aren't.

And I've seen the junkies by the way. They have taken over since lockdown.

30-04-2021 5:14pm

hotmail.com wrote: »

Interesting that some terms are still acceptable on the radio and other things aren't.

And I've seen the junkies by the way. They have taken over since lockdown.

They haven't "taken over" anything. They are people living on the margins of the community, with a countdown hanging over their life expectancy, fervently ticking, like a bomb.

I understand and agree with the apprehension that people feel when they're around someone with a drug addiction. I bet women, especially, feel vulnerable, as meeeh has articulated.

Still, the most important human trait is mercy. That means you expect the best from everyone and treat them with a bit of dignity. Sometimes you'll be disappointed, that's life.

Not trying to be "woke" here, or take any moral high ground. None of us enjoy seeing, or interacting with, these people. But mercy is an older word than "woke", and it is necessary wherever people try to live together.

30-04-2021 5:37pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

They haven't "taken over" anything. They are people living on the margins of the community, with a countdown hanging over their life expectancy, fervently ticking, like a bomb.

I understand and agree with the apprehension that people feel when they're around someone with a drug addiction. I bet women, especially, feel vulnerable, as meeeh has articulated.

Still, the most important human trait is mercy. That means you expect the best from everyone and treat them with a bit of dignity. Sometimes you'll be disappointed, that's life.

Not trying to be "woke" here, or take any moral high ground. None of us enjoy seeing, or interacting with, these people. But mercy is an older word than "woke", and it is necessary wherever people try to live together.

It's just that Dublin seems to have a very big issue in this respect compared to most places I've visited. Oddly Vancouver, an otherwise beautiful place, does too, and there they have thrown everything at it to try and understand why it's occur very there and what to do about it, including tons of compassion.

EmmetSpiceland · 30-04-2021 5:52pm

I get that compassion, and mercy, are the least that can be given but moving through Dublin City centre during lockdown hasn’t been very pretty.

30-04-2021 6:38pm

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

I get that compassion, and mercy, are the least that can be given but moving through Dublin City centre during lockdown hasn’t been very pretty.

i agree. I'm not sure if there are more homeless people about, or if we are just noticing them now.

Worth remembering, though, that if it's bad for us passing through from some banal suburb, it's worse for them, who live there. I hope nobody is eating as they read this (you shouldn't be reading the internet during dinner, anyway) but I was recently walking from Dawson Street onto Grafton Street and I stepped into actual human, greasy, turgid waste!

You can just imagine my surprise! Look, I've been caught short myself, but this was several inches too far.

As bad as it can be for us, homeless people have to put up with it themselves. They have to live, and sleep, around that carry-on. You wouldn't wish it upon your enemy.

mgn · 30-04-2021 7:11pm

Maybe if the opened up more beds in detox centres for the drug addicts, and build accommodation to cater for the homeless instead of spending a million euro a day on cycle lanes, to keep a certain type of voter happy the city might be better for everyone.

Then again the addicts and homeless don't vote so let them die on the streets,

Tell me how · 30-04-2021 7:55pm

mgn wrote: »

Maybe if the opened up more beds in detox centres for the drug addicts, and build accommodation to cater for the homeless instead of spending a million euro a day on cycle lanes, to keep a certain type of voter happy the city might be better for everyone.

Then again the addicts and homeless don't vote so let them die on the streets,

I'd go for more accommodation that isn't hotels or bought by hedgefunds AND cycle lanes if I had my choice.

Anyone decrying the installation of cycling infrastructure at this point still has their head in the last century.

mgn · 30-04-2021 8:15pm

Tell me how wrote: »

I'd go for more accommodation that isn't hotels or bought by hedgefunds AND cycle lanes if I had my choice.

Anyone decrying the installation of cycling infrastructure at this point still has their head in the last century.

Anyone thinking that spending a million a day on cycling lanes is justifiable when you haven't got public toilets or even a rubbish bin in the parks, then the are the ones with their heads in the last century.

EmmetSpiceland · 30-04-2021 8:15pm

I’d be looking at the children’s hospital for the “money waste”, another bugbear of Pat’s, than the cycle lanes.

30-04-2021 8:45pm

mgn wrote: »

Anyone thinking that spending a million a day on cycling lanes is justifiable when you haven't got public toilets or even a rubbish bin in the parks, then the are the ones with their heads in the last century.

mgn wrote: »

Maybe if the opened up more beds in detox centres for the drug addicts, and build accommodation to cater for the homeless instead of spending a million euro a day on cycle lanes, to keep a certain type of voter happy the city might be better for everyone.

Then again the addicts and homeless don't vote so let them die on the streets,

Hmm...

Look, it's one thing to say say "give the resources to the poor, instead of cyclists", which sounds reasonable, but as soon as we do that, Pat Kenny will be bombarded with texts about the feckless, undeserving poor.

I'm not accusing you personally, it's just how it *always* goes. Let's see a radio segment advancing an argument for a detox unit or injection/treatment centre in any locale, and watch the furore unfold.

"Too many "junkies"!" — get them off the streets
"Get them of the streets!" — but into the suburbs
"NOT HERE, please!" — and on it goes.

mgn · 30-04-2021 9:41pm

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Hmm...

Look, it's one thing to say say "give the resources to the poor, instead of cyclists", which sounds reasonable, but as soon as we do that, Pat Kenny will be bombarded with texts about the feckless, undeserving poor.

I'm not accusing you personally, it's just how it *always* goes. Let's see a radio segment advancing an argument for a detox unit or injection/treatment centre in any locale, and watch the furore unfold.

"Too many "junkies"!" — get them off the streets
"Get them of the streets!" — but into the suburbs
"NOT HERE, please!" — and on it goes.

There is plenty of people objecting to cycles lanes, but the seem to get away with when it suits,

whisky_galore · 30-04-2021 10:37pm

mgn wrote: »

There is plenty of people objecting to cycles lanes, but the seem to get away with when it suits,

I recall when I cycled around as a student there weren't any lanes, how on earth did I manage?!
Now there are lanes but the bloody things don't go where I want to go.

Big Daddy Kane · 04-05-2021 9:31am

How many times does Luke O'Neill say "you know" and "you see" drives me mad ^_^

I get he is not media trained and probably just his way of talking, just wish he would stop saying those phrases....

Ah, feels good to get that off my chest...

HeidiHeidi · 04-05-2021 10:03am

Big Daddy Kane wrote: »

How many times does Luke O'Neill say "you know" and "you see" drives me mad ^_^

I get he is not media trained and probably just his way of talking, just wish he would stop saying those phrases....

Ah, feels good to get that off my chest...

It'd be a close run bingo card between Luke's "you see?" and Pat's "antigen test"!

My money would be on Pat.

Technocentral · 04-05-2021 11:11am

You Raise Me Up? , I may puke.

boardise · 04-05-2021 11:16am

I would fear for PK's sanity -if he's suggesting a pop song as a national anthem for a putative 'united Ireland'.
He got a few texts in from 'Newstalk listeners' and now thinks he has the foundation for a campaign.
For the love of God Pat -drop this inanity now -please !

IngazZagni · 04-05-2021 11:18am

Poor journalism yet again. Failing to acknowledge that one third of Catholics in the North don't want a United Ireland. We have to move away from this thought that a Catholic wants a United Ireland. They are two separate things.

2smiggy · 04-05-2021 11:37am

IngazZagni wrote: »

Poor journalism yet again. Failing to acknowledge that one third of Catholics in the North don't want a United Ireland. We have to move away from this thought that a Catholic wants a United Ireland. They are two separate things.

I'd imagine the majority of us south of the border may not want a united ireland either !!

If anything I would gift them more of the border counties

Sadler Peak · 04-05-2021 11:38am

boardise wrote: »

I would fear for PK's sanity -if he's suggesting a pop song as a national anthem for a putative 'united Ireland'.
He got a few texts in from 'Newstalk listeners' and now thinks he has the foundation for a campaign.
For the love of God Pat -drop this inanity now -please !

What song he on about ?

2smiggy · 04-05-2021 11:41am

Sadler Peak wrote: »

What song he on about ?

'you raise me up'

boardise · 04-05-2021 11:43am

Sadler Peak wrote: »

What song he on about ?

'You Raise Me Up'.

I thought he was just throwing it out as a piece of whimsy -but when he kept coming back to it my jaw hit the floor. Hopefully this madness will pass .

veryangryman · 04-05-2021 12:51pm

Anyone else agree that Newstalk really do put all their eggs into the Pat Kenny basket. Lunchtime Live is such a "Loose Women-esque" talk sh1te about nothing type show. If they've no budget stick on some music or something. Always assumed it was Ciara that had the show so drivel, but her protege has continued the downward spiral. Absolute Muck.

whisky_galore · 04-05-2021 12:57pm

boardise wrote: »

'You Raise Me Up'.

I thought he was just throwing it out as a piece of whimsy -but when he kept coming back to it my jaw hit the floor. Hopefully this madness will pass .

I'd rather the Vengabus song as a new anthem tbh.

BPKS · 04-05-2021 1:16pm

whisky_galore wrote: »

I'd rather the Vengabus song as a new anthem tbh.

I'd take Cotton Eye Joe remixed with the Vengabus over that Westlife drivel

Del.Monte · 04-05-2021 1:20pm

2smiggy wrote: »

I'd imagine the majority of us south of the border may not want a united ireland either !!

If anything I would gift them more of the border counties

Especially Leitrim - I'd even settle for just the village of Dromod and only on the provisio

that they build a watch tower, massive PSNI base and a British Army heliport.

zell12 · 04-05-2021 1:43pm

2smiggy wrote: »

I'd imagine the majority of us south of the border may not want a united ireland either !! If anything I would gift them more of the border counties

All of Ulster was to be NI, except DL,CN,MN had nationalist leaning majorities, hence why only 6/9 counties were portioned by Westminster by law in 1921

Technocentral · 05-05-2021 11:31am

This cook book is desperately needed as there are only 15 million different cook books in existence.

Ol' Donie · 05-05-2021 11:46am

veryangryman wrote: »

Anyone else agree that Newstalk really do put all their eggs into the Pat Kenny basket. Lunchtime Live is such a "Loose Women-esque" talk sh1te about nothing type show. If they've no budget stick on some music or something. Always assumed it was Ciara that had the show so drivel, but her protege has continued the downward spiral. Absolute Muck.

I like Andrea, but I can't handle that show. I agree it feels (as did Ciara's version) like a "how are you coping not getting your hair done" section is always likely to come on after the ads.

boardise · 05-05-2021 11:49am

A revealing and disturbing segment today.
PK played a snatch of Micheal Martin speaking to Off The Ball on the topic of structured PE classes in primary school.
In the course of this he said that the emphasis on games should be reduced... showing how the poison of PC has tainted the thinking even of an otherwise seemingly sensible 60 year old man.
Fair play to Pat -he blew this nonsense out of the water. He pointed out that competition enhances the sense of fun and enables kids to unconsciously become active and not regard it as a chore or an imposed duty.
The competitive instinct is strong in most kids -they challenge each other to see who can run fastest ,who can throw stones farthest -even who can pee highest up a wall!
This PC notion that kids somehow shrivel up because they might actually lose at anything is utter tosh. There might be a small number who take it to heart too much but they can be counselled by parents , teachers etc.- without denying the benefits of mass competitive sport to the large majority.
The sooner kids learn that things don't always work out in your favour the better -''you win some ,you lose some''.

ShamNNspace · 05-05-2021 12:48pm

^^^ that and the valuable life lessons that can be learned from losing but getting up and trying again and again

EltonJohn69 · 05-05-2021 5:12pm

PK had a bit of edge/bite to him today when talking about congestion in goatstown... sounded like he was wearing a leather jacket and maybe cowboy boots also ?

Also if we are changing national anthem it should be Scatman.

Roger_007 · 05-05-2021 10:38pm

boardise wrote: »

A revealing and disturbing segment today.
PK played a snatch of Micheal Martin speaking to Off The Ball on the topic of structured PE classes in primary school.
In the course of this he said that the emphasis on games should be reduced... showing how the poison of PC has tainted the thinking even of an otherwise seemingly sensible 60 year old man.
Fair play to Pat -he blew this nonsense out of the water. He pointed out that competition enhances the sense of fun and enables kids to unconsciously become active and not regard it as a chore or an imposed duty.
The competitive instinct is strong in most kids -they challenge each other to see who can run fastest ,who can throw stones farthest -even who can pee highest up a wall!
This PC notion that kids somehow shrivel up because they might actually lose at anything is utter tosh. There might be a small number who take it to heart too much but they can be counselled by parents , teachers etc.- without denying the benefits of mass competitive sport to the large majority.
The sooner kids learn that things don't always work out in your favour the better -''you win some ,you lose some''.

I have an alternative idea to having formal PE classes in primary schools as ‘part of the curriculum’. Why not let the kids out after school and let them play football or climb trees or skip and jump or run around like March hares just like kids used to do.
Kids will keep themselves fit if they get half a chance and they will enjoy the experience.

HeidiHeidi · 05-05-2021 10:40pm

Roger_007 wrote: »

I have an alternative idea to having formal PE classes in primary schools as ‘part of the curriculum’. Why not let the kids out after school and let them play football or climb trees or skip and jump or run around like March hares just like kids used to do.
Kids will keep themselves fit if they get half a chance and they will enjoy the experience.

Not when there's screens to glue themselves to night and day!! (In a lot of cases)

yosser hughes · 05-05-2021 11:36pm

EltonJohn69 wrote: »

PK had a bit of edge/bite to him today when talking about congestion in goatstown... sounded like he was wearing a leather jacket and maybe cowboy boots also ?

Also if we are changing national anthem it should be Scatman.

He had two nimbys on who both agreed with each other as did Pat. Not much of a 'debate' really. Both contributors were at great pains to say they weren't against housing developments per se, just these ones in their locality.
Nimbyism dressed up as concern. It's a well worn approach and pathetically transparent.

Klonker · 06-05-2021 11:03am

Does anyone else find Eoghan Corry a lot better travel correspondence than Pol O Conghaile on these types of shows? : I listened to Pol's segment this morning as I've flights booked for June and I don't really feel like I learned anything from him. At least Eoghan will complain and have a good moan about the government and the current restrictions :pac:

hotmail.com · 06-05-2021 11:07am

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

They haven't "taken over" anything. They are people living on the margins of the community, with a countdown hanging over their life expectancy, fervently ticking, like a bomb.

I understand and agree with the apprehension that people feel when they're around someone with a drug addiction. I bet women, especially, feel vulnerable, as meeeh has articulated.

Still, the most important human trait is mercy. That means you expect the best from everyone and treat them with a bit of dignity. Sometimes you'll be disappointed, that's life.

Not trying to be "woke" here, or take any moral high ground. None of us enjoy seeing, or interacting with, these people. But mercy is an older word than "woke", and it is necessary wherever people try to live together.

I agree with all that.

Saying they've taken over Still stands. Almost everyone that makes a trip to town now comments on them.

It does not look good.

Technocentral · 06-05-2021 11:25am

Sounds like he's from D4!!

Technocentral · 06-05-2021 11:46am

Love Jack Lemmon, my favourite actor, The Apartment, Some Like it Hot and The Odd Couple are essential viewing

06-05-2021 11:56am

Lemmon and Matthau were a great team,The Odd Couple is an all time classic!

serfboard · 06-05-2021 5:23pm

Technocentral wrote: »

This cook book is desperately needed as there are only 15 million different cook books in existence.

And none of them read.

BPKS · 06-05-2021 6:02pm

I wonder will Pat take tomorrow off to queue outside Lidl for 5 packs of 5 antigen tests.

2smiggy · 10-05-2021 9:17am

BPKS wrote: »

I wonder will Pat take tomorrow off to queue outside Lidl for 5 packs of 5 antigen tests.

typically he had to start going on about this. Of course Luke O'Neill parroting sur if they get have the tests right , better than nothing ?!?!?

meeeeh · 10-05-2021 9:21am

This time I agree with them. What Tony Holohan is saying is equivalent to thinking that not selling condoms will prevent people having sex.

2smiggy · 10-05-2021 9:33am

meeeeh wrote: »

This time I agree with them. What Tony Holohan is saying is equivalent to thinking that not selling condoms will prevent people having sex.

what use is a test that is 50% accurate ? I'm all for opening up and getting back to normal, but this antigen test is not far from useless

mattser · 10-05-2021 9:39am

Antigen replaced Trump. Something had to. You see.

The Pat Kenny Show

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