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Peat Briquette RIP

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    #92
    Happy4all
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    what kind of banana republic are we living in?


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    #93
    Thelonious Monk
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    People who have rights to turf should still be allowed harvest it. Themselves. By hand. No resale of turf or right and no help from family or friends.

    For how long? Until it's all gone? Why not try and preserve it after we've done so much damage already? Over time if we allowed policies like this, it'll cause massive damage.
    People are going to do it anyway, so you needn't worry about them.


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    #94
    mikeym
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    Coal will be next to get banned.


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    #95
    punisher5112
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    I find it nuts that people still do footing of the turf, back breaking work and not really much benefit.


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    #96
    Capt'n Midnight
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    beerguts wrote: »
    100% correct sir. Even though it isn't common here in Ireland we can get depressions without any substantial wind for weeks at a time. I would be afraid that we could have our grid collapse from this and if it goes down like that it can be very difficult to get it back and running quickly when conditions improve. Bring back coal or let's start planning for Nuclear.
    Our grid is fine. Recent warnings were a reminder to suppliers to be on stand by.


    Gas from Norway today will be gas from Galway and Cork tomorrow and can be topped up with hydrogen from renewables at minimal outlay compared to the money pit that is nuclear.

    We don't have the bulk buying power or experience with nuclear power like the neighbours who've been doing it since 1953 and right now they are getting screwed over on cost by Johnny Foreigner and will be in hoc to Chinese money lenders for ages.


    Insulate the crap out of old housing stock would be the easiest way to remove the demand.


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    #97
    Galwayguy35
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    Capt'n Midnight wrote: »
    People who have rights to turf should still be allowed harvest it. Themselves. By hand. No resale of turf or right and no help from family or friends.

    Turf cutting will be around for a long time yet, there's a reason the Greens are hated outside urban areas.


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    #98
    Thelonious Monk
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Turf cutting will be around for a long time yet, there's a reason the Greens are hated outside urban areas.

    But FG brought in this initiative, why are you talking about the greens?
    FG also signed up for the Paris agreement and introduced carbon taxes you know.
    Maybe you guys should hate FG instead?


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    #99
    saabsaab
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    I remember a few foreign gentlemen (involved in some arts project) marveling at our pete briquettes in the late 1970's. They loved them so much they asked could they take a few back home!


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    #100
    Capt'n Midnight
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    Ubbquittious wrote: »
    If you're trying to light turf using only firelighters you are living a life of sin. Shame! Shame!

    *rings Game of Thrones shame bell*
    Get two briquettes and bang them together sideways to separate the layers. Dead easy to light the thinnest ones.


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    #101
    bassy
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    what will this mean for private bog owners,who produce there own turf?.


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    #102
    MrMusician18
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    theguzman wrote: »
    An entire industry destroyed and closed down by the far-Left Green party, the same as our Sugar industry destroyed under German demands, our sugar now comes from Germany using sugar cane grown on destroyed Amazon rainforest. But jeez lets all put in heatpumps and pay €2.5k a year in electricity coming at the long end of a gas pipeline from Russia.

    I hate this **** about the sugar industry. The amount of subsidy the sugar producers received towards the end exceeded the value of the crop. It would've literally made more sense to pay the farmers to stay at home.

    Peat. Good riddance.


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    #103
    bassy
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    I find it nuts that people still do footing of the turf, back breaking work and not really much benefit.

    i know a man who owns he,s own bog and sells plots to other people who foot and look after there turf.
    he makes thousands every summer from it and also has enough fuel for he,s fire for 12-24mths.

    he pays for the hopper to come in and produce the lines,after that its up to all of the other people to look after there lines.


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    #104
    CoBo55
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    Happy4all wrote: »
    what kind of banana republic are we living in?

    Septic isle.. Great song.


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    #105
    punisher5112
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    bassy wrote: »
    i know a man who owns he,s own bog and sells plots to other people who foot and look after there turf.
    he makes thousands every summer from it and also has enough fuel for he,s fire for 12-24mths.

    he pays for the hopper to come in and produce the lines,after that its up to all of the other people to look after there lines.

    Indeed, use to do it with my cousin's when I'd spend the summer on my grandad farm....


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    #106
    saabsaab
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    Might frame a few and sell them as art?


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    #107
    Ginger83
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    bassy wrote: »
    i know a man who owns he,s own bog and sells plots to other people who foot and look after there turf.
    he makes thousands every summer from it and also has enough fuel for he,s fire for 12-24mths.

    he pays for the hopper to come in and produce the lines,after that its up to all of the other people to look after there lines.

    Yes that's how we buy it every year.


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    #108
    breezy1985
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    CFlat wrote: »
    Don't worry, some scientist somewhere in the future will say that electricity has a detrimental impact on the environment. And the circle of blame for destroying the earth will continue ad nauseum.

    Well if he can invent something better then what harm.

    You would swear we are all gonna freeze in our beds tonight without the turf


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    #109
    breezy1985
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Turf cutting will be around for a long time yet, there's a reason the Greens are hated outside urban areas.

    Ignorance and fear of change.

    That's the answer to the question above I assume


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    #110
    [Deleted User]
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Well if he can invent something better then what harm.

    You would swear we are all gonna freeze in our beds tonight without the turf

    But like, you do have in California for example rolling blackouts all summer as they made their energy green and it can't cope now..


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    #111
    breezy1985
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    But like, you do have in California for example rolling blackouts all summer as they made their energy green and it can't cope now..

    Rolling blackouts in California are not because of green energy. It's been going on for years for a number of reasons including good old US greed.
    Ever see the Enron documentary.

    And green energy is still electricity and the poster I was replying to said scientists will say " electricity has a detrimental impact on the environment "


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    #112
    punisher5112
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Rolling blackouts in California are not because of green energy. It's been going on for years for a number of reasons including good old US greed.
    Ever see the Enron documentary.

    And green energy is still electricity and the poster I was replying to said scientists will say " electricity has a detrimental impact on the environment "

    Air con units all on drawing huge amounts of current....
    Not enough measures in place and no back up options.

    Remember seeing many go to shops, pools for the day as no a/c at home....


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    #113
    Aongus Von Bismarck
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    Galwayguy35 wrote: »
    Turf cutting will be around for a long time yet, there's a reason the Greens are hated outside urban areas.

    Which will result in Ireland paying higher carbon charges. I suppose it's some way of rural Ireland getting their own back for urbanites who refused to pay €3.78 a week, while much of rural Ireland pays for group water schemes.

    Paddy and his mé féinism.


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    #114
    breezy1985
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    punisher5112 wrote: »
    Air con units all on drawing huge amounts of current....
    Not enough measures in place and no back up options.

    Remember seeing many go to shops, pools for the day as no a/c at home....


    All true but why is green energy to blame?


    Natural gas is the biggest producer of electricity in California so why not blame that


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    #115
    punisher5112
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    All true but why is green energy to blame?


    Natural gas is the biggest producer of electricity in California so why not blame that

    Not blaming it at all, they obviously haven't planned properly or won't put enough money in to sort.

    You will find business and hospitals will be fine but houses will be 1st to be shut down....
    Bet if one were to go into gated communities or say where the dems are, they'll be all fine.


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    #116
    rossie1977
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Rolling blackouts in California are not because of green energy. It's been going on for years for a number of reasons including good old US greed.
    Ever see the Enron documentary.

    And green energy is still electricity and the poster I was replying to said scientists will say " electricity has a detrimental impact on the environment "

    Yes I was in California 21 years ago and during record temperatures there was some blackouts due to pressure on electricity grid

    Green energy production was tiny back then


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    #117
    Montage of Feck
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    breezy1985 wrote: »
    Ignorance and fear of change.

    That's the answer to the question above I assume

    More like resentment at loosing a degree of self sufficiency.

    🙈🙉🙊



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    #118
    _Brian
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    Montage of Feck wrote: »
    More like resentment at loosing a degree of self sufficiency.

    Self sufficiency can’t be at all costs though.

    Extraction of peat amd turf on industrial scales has destroyed unique natural habitats amd added to flooding in many areas

    There’s an argument that initially we knew no better, but we know better now.


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    #119
    Thelonious Monk
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    Aongus Von Bismarck wrote: »
    Which will result in Ireland paying higher carbon charges. I suppose it's some way of rural Ireland getting their own back for urbanites who refused to pay €3.78 a week, while much of rural Ireland pays for group water schemes.

    Paddy and his mé féinism.

    It's a bit silly getting into that, property tax in Dublin and Cork props up the rest of the country's local authorities

    https://www.independent.ie/business/personal-finance/property-mortgages/property-tax-from-our-cities-still-props-up-rest-of-country-38443184.html


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    #120
    Bigbooty
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    Aren't we going to be connected to mainland Europe soon? We will get to use french nuclear power without having them in our country. No need to worry about energy security once this happens.

    Peat harvesting is ecocide. Globally, boglands are bigger carbon sinks than all forest combined and when we don't disturb them they are highly biodiverse. It's great that the government are moving to phase out peat harvesting.


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    #121
    lawred2
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    Low heat and piles of ash

    Horrible things


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