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Doing IBT on own bike?

  • 28-07-2020 11:33pm
    #1
    [Deleted User]
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    I will try and keep this short and to the point.

    First I'll start off by saying I do have some previous experience riding a motorcycle (a scooter) a 125cc, stupidly I sold it last year because I decided I wanted to give driving a car a chance. I realise now that was the wrong decision I'm much more comfortable on two wheels, however in hindsight living in a rural area I should have gone for something more powerful than a 125cc.

    Anyway my question could I for example buy a 300cc or above and then have it delivered to my house and finally have an IBT instructor call round to certify me on the new bike?


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  • #2
    IrishGrimReaper
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    You can use your own bike for the IBT but you won't get an instructor calling around so you'll need to go to them. If you manage to get insurance in place without the IBT you're not insured to ride the bike on public roads without the IBT. You can only ride it whilst under the supervision of the instructor during your IBT - at least that's what I was told by the broker when I asked the same question.

    Anyways don't buy a bike until after you have done your IBT, you can use one of the instructor's bikes - do it on a manual bike as well. If you're 24 or over go for the A category bikes.


  • #3
    [Deleted User]
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    IrishGrimReaper wrote: »
    You can use your own bike for the IBT but you won't get an instructor calling around so you'll need to go to them. If you manage to get insurance in place without the IBT you're not insured to ride the bike on public roads without the IBT. You can only ride it whilst under the supervision of the instructor during your IBT - at least that's what I was told by the broker when I asked the same question.

    Anyways don't buy a bike until after you have done your IBT, you can use one of the instructor's bikes - do it on a manual bike as well. If you're 24 or over go for the A category bikes.

    Thanks I should have explained that the reason I'm thinking of buying my own bike is I can't get the hang of one with gears so it has to be a scooter or one of Honda's DCT bikes.


  • #4
    zubair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    When I did mine the instructor came to me as I had my own bike for the IBT. So maybe you'll find one that will accommodate you.


  • #5
    jim salter
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Thanks I should have explained that the reason I'm thinking of buying my own bike is I can't get the hang of one with gears so it has to be a scooter or one of Honda's DCT bikes.

    Having done the IBT and struggling with gear changes it took a lot of practice to get it right.

    Your IBT instructor will help you learn the correct method for the gears.

    Not sure if it's like cars and if you do an 'auto only' test that you will only be able to ride auto bikes/scooters - really limits your choice of machine. Essentially you will be fitting your riding 'style' to a specific bike rather than getting a bike that suits you.

    Guess what I'm trying to say is: you will figure out the gears with practice and you will then have a choice between manual/auto instead of being restricted to only auto.


  • #6
    zubair
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    If you're not physically unable to change gear I wouldn't worry. That's what the IBT is for.


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  • #7
    LollipopJimmy
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    zubair wrote: »
    When I did mine the instructor came to me as I had my own bike for the IBT. So maybe you'll find one that will accommodate you.

    The first bit of riding is supposed to be in a compound


  • #8
    zubair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    The first bit of riding is supposed to be in a compound

    I don't think there's anything that says it has to be. But is an empty car park not the same thing?


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
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    I believe the first part has to be completed on private property, for example the first time I did my IBT it was in a carpark at the back of a business in an industrial estate.


  • #10
    IrishGrimReaper
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    Mine was in the carpark for a hotel.


  • #11
    knucklehead6
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    Car park of a GAA ground in my case


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  • #12
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users Posts: 1,906 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Thanks I should have explained that the reason I'm thinking of buying my own bike is I can't get the hang of one with gears so it has to be a scooter or one of Honda's DCT bikes.

    Have you done an IBT before? Where did you try use gears? You had a car so you should get the gear part with practice and a good instructor.


  • #13
    galwaytt
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    LollipopJimmy wrote: »
    The first bit of riding is supposed to be in a compound

    Wherever it is done has had to be seen and approved by RSA. So it can be a carpark, but one which the Instructor has cleared with RSA - you cant just rock up to any Dunnes car park and start tootling around.

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  • #14
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks everyone for your replies

    Having had a look at prices I'm now tempted to give a geared bike a go, what would you recommend as a good beginner bike?

    Probably not recommended but I was thinking of doing was having a bike shipped to my parents house witches in a rural area with a small quiet road outside (there is only one other house along the road) and practicing a bit before doing IBT module 5. Of course I'll make sure I am fully taxed and insured.


  • #15
    IrishGrimReaper
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    Do your IBT first then look about getting a bike shipped, I wouldn't advise buying one without having done your IBT.

    I did my IBT on the instructors CBF600 and then bought one after the IBT from a UK dealer and they delivered it the Hollyhead for me. Since I did my IBT on it I was happy with the bike and how it felt to ride.


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks, you're right it probably would be a good idea to do my IBT again firstly to get used to a geared bike and secondly to unlearn any bad habits I may have picked up over the previous two years.

    Could someone recommend a good instructor?

    I presume Mick from roadtraining.ie is still operating as close to normal as possible?


  • #17
    jim salter
    Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Thanks, you're right it probably would be a good idea to do my IBT again firstly to get used to a geared bike and secondly to unlearn any bad habits I may have picked up over the previous two years.

    Could someone recommend a good instructor?

    I presume Mick from roadtraining.ie is still operating as close to normal as possible?

    Good choice mate :)

    Mick Finlay? Yep he's still going. Highly recommend him. Did my IBT and he was really great. He's on here but I can't remember his username.


  • #18
    zubair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,459 ✭✭✭zubair


    jim salter wrote: »
    Good choice mate :)

    Mick Finlay? Yep he's still going. Highly recommend him. Did my IBT and he was really great. He's on here but I can't remember his username.

    +1 for Mick and you can do it on your own bike then.

    lookbehindyou is his nick, apt.


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    Thanks everyone got in contact with Mick, I'm sorry to hear that he was injured and am glad to hear that he is on the mend and should be able to go back to training people at the end of the month.


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