Why are women so annoying?

khalessi · 14-08-2019 3:29pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Could that be because men only go to the doctor if they are really sick?

No the research in question sent the same amount of women and men to the doctor with the same symptoms and the doctors reacted as stated previously

WarpAsylum · 14-08-2019 4:28pm

khalessi wrote: »

No the research in question sent the same amount of women and men to the doctor with the same symptoms and the doctors reacted as stated previously

I think the posters point is that a doctor's attitude towards a man might be "well if he's after actually coming to see me, there must really be something wrong with him."

khalessi · 14-08-2019 4:44pm

WarpAsylum wrote: »

I think the posters point is that a doctor's attitude towards a man might be "well if he's after actually coming to see me, there must really be something wrong with him."

Well if that is the case why isnt it the same for a woman actually going to see the doctor?

the beer revolu · 14-08-2019 4:45pm

khalessi wrote: »

Well if that is the case why isnt it the same for a woman actually going to see the doctor?

The stereotype of men refusing to go to the doctor unless they are on death's door.

ArchXStanton · 14-08-2019 4:54pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The stereotype of men refusing to go to the doctor unless they are on death's door.

Which is fairly common amongst the older generation men, my father was having a heart attack beside me and wouldn't even turn around and say to me jesus I think I'm having a heart attack here,said nothing until that evening, kept putting the hospital off for days, until I literally dragged him in

khalessi · 14-08-2019 4:56pm

the beer revolu wrote: »

The stereotype of men refusing to go to the doctor unless they are on death's door.

So medical treatment is based on the amount of times a person attends a doctor and not the symptoms they present with, interesting.

WarpAsylum · 14-08-2019 5:00pm

khalessi wrote: »

So medical treatment is based on the amount of times a person attends a doctor and not the symptoms they present with, interesting.

I'm not sure anyone is saying it's right, or that it is definitely the case, it's just a suggestion of a possible thought process.

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 5:01pm

A bit of neurobiology:

MALE BRAINS AREN'T DESIGNED TO LISTEN TO FEMALE VOICES

If you’ve ever spent time telling a guy a story or asking him a question, only to get a blank stare in response, then you know that there’s definitely truth to this claim that guys weren’t designed to hear us speak. I had a similar experience at brunch this weekend when I was going on and on to a male friend about something I can’t even remember anymore. When I got to the end of my rant and finally asked him if he agreed with me on the topic at hand, his answer was, “sorry, I really wasn’t listening to a word you said.”

Even though I was incredibly frustrated with him, he did bring up a good point, asking, “would you rather I lie and say I heard you?” This little exchange, as insignificant as it was, did make me wonder exactly what it is that makes it so easy for men to tune us out.

As it turns out, a study published in the journal NeuroImage sought to answer the very same question. Researchers found that there are major differences in the way male and female brains process voice sounds. Different brain regions are activated in men, depending on whether they’re hearing a male or female voice.

Apparently, the vibration and number of sound waves in our voice makes it harder for men to decipher what we’re saying. When it comes to processing a woman’s voice, they use the more complex auditory part of the brain that processes music, not human voices. But the guys in the study could easily hear and understand other mens voices as speech because that uses a simpler brain mechanism at the back of the brain.

So, next time you want to get angry and yell at a guy for “not listening,” cut him a little slack his brain just wasn’t made to hear you. My suggestion would be to speak slowly and get to your point fast.

https://stylecaster.com/male-brains-arent-designed-listen-female-voices/

mfceiling · 14-08-2019 5:10pm

Wife - "did you see that story about *name of z list celebrity nobody has heard of*?

Me - "No and I'm not interested neither"

Wife - *huffing now*...Well it was....

Me - " I'll stop you there cause I'm not interested and I don't care"

Wife *buries head back in some shyte glossy gossip rag*

Honestly women here's an idea.....Stop giving a fcuk about "celebs that are about as famous as a carton of milk in my fridge. Stop buying those stupid glossy gossip magazines. Stop watching that crap on tv about dopey people doing nothing. Stop talking among yourselves about people that are only famous because you don't stop talking about them. The whole new celebrity movement is entirely your fault.

*and breathe*

khalessi · 14-08-2019 5:12pm

Honeslty men stop going on about stats to do with eejits chasing leather and obsessing over leagues and points or taking time off to chase a ball around a field to put it in a hole.

Tell me how · 14-08-2019 5:13pm

mfceiling wrote: »

Wife - "did you see that story about *name of z list celebrity nobody has heard of*?

Me - "No and I'm not interested neither"

Wife - *huffing now*...Well it was....

Me - " I'll stop you there cause I'm not interested and I don't care"

Wife *buries head back in some shyte glossy gossip rag*

Honestly women here's an idea.....Stop giving a fcuk about "celebs that are about as famous as a carton of milk in my fridge. Stop buying those stupid glossy gossip magazines. Stop watching that crap on tv about dopey people doing nothing. Stop talking among yourselves about people that are only famous because you don't stop talking about them. The whole new celebrity movement is entirely your fault.

*and breathe*

She's getting her own back for the 'Can you believe what Man U/Arsenal/Liverpool/An Other are playing at in the transfer window?'

All she wants you to do is listen for a second and make a comment.

14-08-2019 5:16pm

His brain just wasn't made to hear you, unless there's an even group in a room where women speak exactly 30% but perceived as massively dominating the conversation by volume

"would you rather i lie" isn't a good point, it's rudeness and boorishness

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 5:24pm

bluewolf wrote: »

His brain just wasn't made to hear you, unless there's an even group in a room where women speak exactly 30% but perceived as massively dominating the conversation by volume

"would you rather i lie" isn't a good point, it's rudeness and boorishness

Not convinced?

Why Men Don’t Listen to Women
Many men decide it's unwise to engage in certain conversations

Women often complain that men, especially when in a long-term relationship, don't listen to them.

Many of these women claim that men can't communicate. A woman once said to me, "All men want is sex."

Women may be wise to recognize that many men decide it's unwise to engage in certain conversations.

For example, a man may predict that listening to his wife or girlfriend "process her feelings" will not make things better. Rather, it will exacerbate her illegitimate feelings of victimhood, often at the man's expense.

For instance, if a man forgets his wife's birthday, he might fear she'll go into a tirade about how it makes her feel unloved. He may worry she’ll exaggerate how bad it makes her feel so she can extract maximum guilt and recompense from him. He may be afraid that, to gain still more brownie points, she'll bring up some past faux pas he committed—like catching him watching porn or, "John, you insisted on watching that stupid football game when you knew it was important to me and the family that we visited grandma. I feel totally not loved. I don't count at all!" (Another exaggeration to extract maximum recompense from him.)

In such a conversation, he may be aware she's overreacting, and to allow her to vent uninterrupted would give undue legitimacy to her grievance. Yet if he defends himself, for example, by pointing out incidents of her selfishness, she'd accuse him of expanding the argument. Nor is she likely to be assuaged if he offers examples of the many ways he has shown his love. She'll likely feel or assert that she's unheard, invalidated: "Does that really justify your watching porn or forgetting my birthday? Just listen. Stop defending yourself! I just want to be heard. Can't you just listen for once?" He's in a Catch 22; he loses either way.

So understandably, he wants to avoid the conversation, whereupon the women might incorrectly believe that men can't communicate, that “All men want is sex.”

Indeed, many women demand being listened to and that the man dare not offer a solution to her problem lest he be restricting her agency. "I just want to vent. I want to share my feelings. When I'm ready to solve the problem, I will."

Many men get frustrated when the woman he loves has a problem he could solve but he's forced to sit there with his mouth shut. Rather than being frustrated, he preempts or short-cuts the conversation, or simply spaces out, whereupon the woman may say or think, "Men can't communicate. All they want is sex."

A study by Georgetown gender communication specialist Deborah Tannen debunks the conventional wisdom that women talk more than men. Fact is, men talk approximately the same amount—16,000 words a day.

The difference may be that many men resist talking unless a constructive outcome is likely—men just may not be as dumb as some women proclaim. Nor is sex sufficient to manipulate a man...although it couldn't hurt.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/how-do-life/201511/why-men-don-t-listen-women

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-08-2019 5:35pm

I can't keep this straight now, are we annoying or unnoticeable, talk too much or men talk the same amount, keep on at men about things when they heard us the first time or have to take into account that they're neurologically incapable of hearing us the first time?

This is the Madonna Whore complex all over again!

If a woman says something in the woods and a man's brain blanks it out, is she still a nag? AH says yes yes yes!

Redneck Reject · 14-08-2019 5:41pm

Going by my wife, she expects too much and talks too much. She watches all these reality shows and wants a life like that. But in reality she married a normal person and then bitches about it.Thus making her annoying heh.

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 5:43pm

Emmalyn Squeaking Forearm wrote: »

This is the Madonna Whore complex all over again!

The above articles are research. Personal psychology is a different matter.

Tell me how · 14-08-2019 5:44pm

Emmalyn Squeaking Forearm wrote: »

I can't keep this straight now, are we annoying or unnoticeable, talk too much or men talk the same amount, keep on at men about things when they heard us the first time or have to take into account that they're neurologically incapable of hearing us the first time?

This is the Madonna Whore complex all over again!

If a woman says something in the woods and a man's brain blanks it out, is she still a nag? AH says yes yes yes!

No, some posters on AH say this.

I disagree with the central tenet of the comment previous to yours in that men and women behave in such a concise manner (ignoring the fact that the example portrays the man as being the considered reasonable person) or that members of either gender behave in a particular way purely because of their gender.

I think people behave in ways which is influenced by those that influenced them growing up (which likely were male influencing males and females influencing females) but that that is not to say a particular mannerism is inherent in one gender over the other.

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 5:56pm

Tell me how wrote: »

I disagree with the central tenet of the comment previous to yours in that men and women behave in such a concise manner

Ok but the below is proven to be true, and may help explain 'why women are so annoying'

As compared to a male voice, the female voice is more difficult for males to listen to

The female voice may be processed by males as “a melody line” or as “background music”

To increase the likelihood of being heard by a male, a female needs to lower her voice pitch and keep it even (avoid pitch variation), speak louder, and lower inflections at the end of sentences.

Tell me how · 14-08-2019 6:00pm

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Ok but the below is proven to be true, and may help explain 'why women are so annoying'

As compared to a male voice, the female voice is more difficult for males to listen to

The female voice may be processed by males as “a melody line” or as “background music”

To increase the likelihood of being heard by a male, a female needs to lower her voice pitch and keep it even (avoid pitch variation), speak louder, and lower inflections at the end of sentences.

That isn't true.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-08-2019 6:04pm

ToddyDoody wrote: »

The above articles are research. Personal psychology is a different matter.

Everything up to "A study by Georgetown..." in that second article is very subjective opinion, as far as I can see? The only thing in it that directly references a study is that women don't actually talk more than men.

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 6:10pm

Emmalyn Squeaking Forearm wrote: »

Everything up to "A study by Georgetown..." in that second article is very subjective opinion, as far as I can see? The only thing in it that directly references a study is that women don't actually talk more than men.

Make of it what you will.

Wibbs · 14-08-2019 6:24pm

Emmalyn Squeaking Forearm wrote: »

If a woman says something in the woods and a man's brain blanks it out, is she still a nag?

Redneck Reject · 14-08-2019 6:27pm

Wibbs wrote: »

That would be a yes.

Earthhorse · 14-08-2019 6:31pm

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Make of it what you will.

That’s what she did.

hatrickpatrick · 14-08-2019 6:34pm

I can’t believe this is an actual conversation that’s happening right now. I’m torn between enjoying the taste of popcorn and desperately hoping that most people in here are taking the absolute piss.

Never change, AH

paleoperson · 14-08-2019 6:35pm

Earthhorse wrote: »

That’s what she did.

How does that fit the "that's what she said" joke in any sort of way?

Wibbs · 14-08-2019 6:35pm

mfceiling wrote: »

Wife - "did you see that story about *name of z list celebrity nobody has heard of*?

Me - "No and I'm not interested neither"

Wife - *huffing now*...Well it was....

Me - " I'll stop you there cause I'm not interested and I don't care"

Wife *buries head back in some shyte glossy gossip rag*

Honestly women here's an idea.....Stop giving a fcuk about "celebs that are about as famous as a carton of milk in my fridge. Stop buying those stupid glossy gossip magazines. Stop watching that crap on tv about dopey people doing nothing. Stop talking among yourselves about people that are only famous because you don't stop talking about them. The whole new celebrity movement is entirely your fault.

*and breathe*

Or here's an idea: Men stop insisting on going out with women like that. Now God knows I've had my own selection bias, some positive some negative, but I can say this; not a single woman I've ever gone out with in either the short or long term was into "celebs" as a thing. Not a one. If they had been it wouldn't have passed the hurdle of the second date. It would have been touch and go on the first. Hell, even of all the women I've known I can only think of two that would have had a bit of an interest, but even there it wouldn't be a regular topic of convo. Now unless I've magically found a tiny minority of women who aren't into that. But I doubt it.

In NerdSpeak(tm) it's akin to saying one hates how the Apple OS works and then going out and buying an iMac and then forever whinging about it. Then again some do like a good whinge.

Tell me how wrote:

That isn't true.

Indeed it's not, or it's far more complex than that. Consider the speech synthesisers in military aircraft. They're a female voice, because the military types discovered that fighter pilots(overwhelmingly men) are more likely to listen to a woman's voice giving them information and more likely to act upon it.

Down the years reading various bits of research into the matter there are only a few fairly hard and fast "rules" on male/female general differences and even there they're on a spectrum. Those would roughly be that men are generally more focussed on things, whereas women are generally more focussed on people.

Raconteuse · 14-08-2019 6:50pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Or here's an idea: Men stop insisting on going out with women like that.

Exactly. I'd die before I'd become like that, and same with my friends.

So many men actually go for those vapid women.

Leg End Reject · 14-08-2019 7:46pm

Jaysis this is depressing reading.

I love men, ya can't bate a bit of cock.

mfceiling · 14-08-2019 8:36pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Or here's an idea: Men stop insisting on going out with women like that.

Bit late now Wibbs.... We're married nearly 15 years!!
The thing is, she's got a master's in english and is at the very top of her game in IT. It's like a release I suppose from the mundane (me) and there's no real harm but I stand by my earlier assertion that the whole celebrity fascination is driven largely by women.

Game of Thrones Fan · 14-08-2019 10:14pm

Wibbs wrote: »

Or here's an idea: Men stop insisting on going out with women like that.

Because most men have so many options at their disposal.

Yes I'll probably end up going out with a woman like this again. So you might say to me, "go ahead but don't be complaining about her so", in which I'll say "don't bother clicking on this thread so"!

igCorcaigh · 14-08-2019 10:15pm

It may seem like a minor complaint, but why do women in bars, particularly, constantly laugh, in a very screechy way?

It ruins conversation for everyone else, and is very anti social.

Nothing is that funny.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-08-2019 10:46pm

ToddyDoody wrote: »

Make of it what you will.

Be as you may unto you as well sir.

It's provocative subjective opinion by a fella trying to flog books, who non-sequitured an actual study into a late paragraph so he could both meet the bare minimum requirements for a pop-psychology clickbait aggregator AND show up in the first page when people Google "what's a sciency way of saying my wife is annoying bitch ever since I stopped loving her".

Is what I will make of it.

Raconteuse · 14-08-2019 10:59pm

mfceiling wrote: »

I stand by my earlier assertion that the whole celebrity fascination is driven largely by women.

Don't think anyone would dispute that. It's obviously driven by women.

igCorcaigh wrote: »

It may seem like a minor complaint, but why do women in bars, particularly, constantly laugh, in a very screechy way?

It ruins conversation for everyone else, and is very anti social.

Nothing is that funny.

Anyone nearly breaking your eardrum from screaming and roaring laughing is annoying - although in bars I don't mind it that much (depending on how loud or quiet the bar is) but people do it on trains, buses, in the office, restaurants. Jesus shut up! And yes, women are worse for it than men.

Wibbs · 14-08-2019 11:03pm

Game of Thrones Fan wrote: »

Because most men have so many options at their disposal.

Just my take mind you GOTF, but in my humble a large factor in that is believing one's options are limited and that tends to turn out to be prophetic.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 14-08-2019 11:03pm

mfceiling wrote: »

Bit late now Wibbs.... We're married nearly 15 years!!
The thing is, she's got a master's in english and is at the very top of her game in IT. It's like a release I suppose from the mundane (me) and there's no real harm but I stand by my earlier assertion that the whole celebrity fascination is driven largely by women.

Ah everyone has some vapid nonsense or other they're into. MMA is just Heat Magazine with punching, and don't get me started on that feckin premier league transfer window! Gossip central, beefs and shade galore. Jose doesn't even like the guy, he's only trying to antagonise Jurgen, it's not fair on Wayne. Arsene is just flaunting the money in Rafa's face but you know what, he hasn't half the class in his little finger. Oooh my GAWD did you see when Mohammed and Daniel saw each other there after the goal and...yeah..because you know what that's....YEAH.

Literally the only difference is girly girl vapid nonsense uses the first names and manly man vapid nonsense the surnames.

nomdeboardie · 14-08-2019 11:10pm

Emmalyn Squeaking Forearm wrote: »

Ah everyone has some vapid nonsense or other they're into. MMA is just Heat Magazine with punching, and don't get me started on that feckin premier league transfer window! Gossip central, beefs and shade galore. Jose doesn't even like the guy, he's only trying to antagonise Jurgen, it's not fair on Wayne. Arsene is just flaunting the money in Rafa's face but you know what, he hasn't half the class in his little finger. Oooh my GAWD did you see when Mohammed and Daniel saw each other there after the goal and...yeah..because you know what that's....YEAH.

Literally the only difference is girly girl vapid nonsense uses the first names and manly man vapid nonsense the surnames.

:pac::pac::pac:

Outlaw Pete · 14-08-2019 11:29pm

mfceiling wrote: »

The thing is, she's got a master's in english and is at the very top of her game in IT.

Sounds like someone that would have no bother finding out your Boards username and taking a gander at your posts so

ToddyDoody · 14-08-2019 11:34pm

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

I can’t believe this is an actual conversation that’s happening right now. I’m torn between enjoying the taste of popcorn and desperately hoping that most people in here are taking the absolute piss.

Never change, AH

To he honest I'm airing my grievances indirectly re: one or 2 female co-workers who, if given the option of dumping in the river (with a life ring, to be fair), I might well have well taken up the option.

jcorr · 15-08-2019 12:14am

I had a gf who used to criticize my dress sense. I started to dress better.

But then after a while she started lots of toxic arguing. I dumped the hag.

No woman no cry!

Wibbs · 15-08-2019 9:09am

Lamsung wrote: »

Wibbs won't agree with this, he thinks only some people are into vapid nonsense, he thinks you should simply not get into relationships with people who are into vapid nonsense.

Nope. A load of people are into such things, otherwise they wouldn't be so popular. TBH I wouldn't consider it "vapid nonsense". It is what it is and if it floats your boat then grand. I'd get pretty effin bored hanging around with people constantly discussing the finer points of Tolstoy's oeuvre too.

However a fair proportion of people are going to match you in general as nobody is so unique, so there is a choice. Goes for men mad into sport and women mad into celeb culture. It's a question of degree too. There's a bit of a diff between a guy who watches the occasional match and a guy who is obsessed with how his county is doing. Now fair play to such a guy if that's his thing, but if a woman could hardly complain about it if she's with him for a while as it'll be pretty obvious from the start that's his thing.

H8GHOTI · 15-08-2019 11:13am

Men have a problem hearing women?

Woman “I’m going to dress up in my Ann Summers underwear”
Man “Sorry I wasn’t listening”
Said no man ever.

jimmycrackcorm · 15-08-2019 2:22pm

freshpopcorn wrote: »

I always get very concerned about men who go out with these annoying women.
Why would you put yourself in your position?

To save his fellow men from the horror.
Op, You're my hero for your selflessness.

18-08-2019 12:07am

When I come home from work tired my wife will often launch into a 20 minute monologue about her day. To be honest I sometimes tune out because I'm tired and it's difficult to follow it fully. I'm a terrible person 🙄

Seanachai · 26-08-2019 12:51pm

Deleted User wrote: »

When I come home from work tired my wife will often launch into a 20 minute monologue about her day. To be honest I sometimes tune out because I'm tired and it's difficult to follow it fully. I'm a terrible person 🙄

She probably doesn't mind, I'm finding they usually just want somebody to listen, to sound off a bit. As long as you don't get the 'are ya listenin?' jolt :P

Church on Tuesday · 26-08-2019 1:39pm

Seanachai wrote: »

She probably doesn't mind, I'm finding they usually just want somebody to listen, to sound off a bit. As long as you don't get the 'are ya listenin?' jolt :P

This. It's very important to just listen. Maybe repeat back something she said to show you actually are paying attention. A part of you should want to hear about how her day went, but not everyone can be 'on' all the time, I certainly can't.

Earthhorse · 26-08-2019 1:42pm

Deleted User wrote: »

When I come home from work tired my wife will often launch into a 20 minute monologue about her day. To be honest I sometimes tune out because I'm tired and it's difficult to follow it fully. I'm a terrible person 🙄

Bwahaha! Look at that smiley! It gets italicised when it's quoted!

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The smiley thinks it's text!

Mangofrozo · 26-08-2019 1:43pm

Men and women tend to see the world very differently, which can result in misunderstanding and annoyance on both sides.

For example, why do women get so annoyed that their partner didn't take out the bins and continue to nag about it.....

Men are often baffled as to why it's such a big deal. What they don't realise is that women often need to feel secure that they can trust their partner to do what he says he's going to do. So when he says he'll take the bins out and doesn't it means she can't trust him. Which means she can't relax in the relationship, which makes for a narky environment.

careless sherpa · 26-08-2019 2:16pm

Mangofrozo wrote: »

Men and women tend to see the world very differently, which can result in misunderstanding and annoyance on both sides.

For example, why do women get so annoyed that their partner didn't take out the bins and continue to nag about it.....

Men are often baffled as to why it's such a big deal. What they don't realise is that women often need to feel secure that they can trust their partner to do what he says he's going to do. So when he says he'll take the bins out and doesn't it means she can't trust him. Which means she can't relax in the relationship, which makes for a narky environment.

I don't buy that. She should just realise it is because he can't be bothered about the bins. Why doesn't she just take the bins out herself and save the deteriorating atmosphere if the bins bother her so much

Sorry about that · 26-08-2019 2:19pm

Mangofrozo wrote: »

Men and women tend to see the world very differently, which can result in misunderstanding and annoyance on both sides.

For example, why do women get so annoyed that their partner didn't take out the bins and continue to nag about it.....

Men are often baffled as to why it's such a big deal. What they don't realise is that women often need to feel secure that they can trust their partner to do what he says he's going to do. So when he says he'll take the bins out and doesn't it means she can't trust him. Which means she can't relax in the relationship, which makes for a narky environment.

I almost always take out our bins. Why do men make sweeping statements about women? Women are baffled about this.

Why are women so annoying?

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