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Sea green - New Housing development

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,250 ✭✭✭pixbyjohn


    kh2017 wrote: »
    anyone know how you would fit a tumble dryer and washing machine in their 3 / 4 bed utilities

    You have to use a combined unit unfortunately


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 kh2017


    Hi does anyone know how the development is progressing-are houses ready to close around the time they were told
    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    We were told before Christmas but only moved in a few weeks ago. Seems to be the norm. I'd expect a 2 month delay anyway tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Erasmusgreen


    Hi,
    I need an information and I hope you can help me with it. My solicitor has received the contract to purchase the house I booked in Seagreen and there is a clause in it about the contract price: it "shall be adjusted by the amount of any increase or decrease in the cost of labour, material"..etc.
    Have you all got the same clause? Is there any regulation about it or at the end they can increase the price as much as they like? What happen if I can't afford the increased price? (Do I lose the deposit?)
    Did you all feel comfortable signing that clause?
    Thanks!

    PS
    I found online this link about Gazumping which looks to be the name for it:
    lawreform.ie/archives/report-on-gazumping.310.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Hi,
    I need an information and I hope you can help me with it. My solicitor has received the contract to purchase the house I booked in Seagreen and there is a clause in it about the contract price: it "shall be adjusted by the amount of any increase or decrease in the cost of labour, material"..etc.
    Have you all got the same clause? Is there any regulation about it or at the end they can increase the price as much as they like? What happen if I can't afford the increased price? (Do I lose the deposit?)
    Did you all feel comfortable signing that clause?
    Thanks!

    PS
    I found online this link about Gazumping which looks to be the name for it:
    lawreform.ie/archives/report-on-gazumping.310.html

    Without seeing the contract (we didn't go through ours in detail at all) I'd imagine that just covers the cost of extras etc. Our solicitor said it was a standard contract and there was no movement in the price at all. Haven't heard anyone else in the estate have any issues with anything like that either.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Erasmusgreen


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Hi,
    I need an information and I hope you can help me with it. My solicitor has received the contract to purchase the house I booked in Seagreen and there is a clause in it about the contract price: it "shall be adjusted by the amount of any increase or decrease in the cost of labour, material"..etc.
    Have you all got the same clause? Is there any regulation about it or at the end they can increase the price as much as they like? What happen if I can't afford the increased price? (Do I lose the deposit?)
    Did you all feel comfortable signing that clause?
    Thanks!

    PS
    I found online this link about Gazumping which looks to be the name for it:
    lawreform.ie/archives/report-on-gazumping.310.html

    Without seeing the contract (we didn't go through ours in detail at all) I'd imagine that just covers the cost of extras etc. Our solicitor said it was a standard contract and there was no movement in the price at all. Haven't heard anyone else in the estate have any issues with anything like that either.
    The price of extras are discussed in a separate part of the contract, this clause is about the agreed price without any extra, it even mention the increase price of fuel and other expenses which can really be anything.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 marseey


    Hi all, looking to get a couple of radiators upgraded and moved in a few of the rooms in a Wyndham. Has anyone had this done and how much was to move / upgrade? PM please

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Mimi17


    hello
    would you mind me asking how you went about the changes to your house, ours isn't ready until November,
    who did you contact in relation to the changes, I know the kitchen are Nolan kitchens, was it very expensive to put in the island?
    any information would be much appreciated

    thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Mimi17 wrote: »
    hello
    would you mind me asking how you went about the changes to your house, ours isn't ready until November,
    who did you contact in relation to the changes, I know the kitchen are Nolan kitchens, was it very expensive to put in the island?
    any information would be much appreciated

    thank you

    Sandra in the site office should have sent you all the details by email once the sale went through. Give her a shout and she can fore them over. You have to deal with each supplier individually so there's a list of them.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2 Mimi17


    great thank you, we still have a bit of time, thank you for your message


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5 fb2017


    Does anyone know when in autumn the next phase of seagreen will be released?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 63 ✭✭Pedanticness


    Hi All, just curious does Sea Green have a management company and what the annual charges are roughly if it does?


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Hi All, just curious does Sea Green have a management company and what the annual charges are roughly if it does?

    No management fees at all thank God!


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Hi

    I just put a deposit down on one of these new developments. Hows the broadband these days? I seem to remember a few posts on it last year, I need it for work.

    Any other information for a new incoming neighbour?

    Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    Cluster wrote: »
    Hi

    I just put a deposit down on one of these new developments. Hows the broadband these days? I seem to remember a few posts on it last year, I need it for work.

    Any other information for a new incoming neighbour?

    Thanks

    Hey, congrats. Which part of the development did you buy in? Is it Seagreen Gate or the ones that ones went up this weekend? Broadband is fine once it's up and running, but that can be an issue itself if you're reliant on Eir. They seem to wait until the whole road is in before they connect the houses. But I think the new houses released today are with Virgin so that might not be as much of an issue.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Hey, congrats. Which part of the development did you buy in? Is it Seagreen Gate or the ones that ones went up this weekend? Broadband is fine once it's up and running, but that can be an issue itself if you're reliant on Eir. They seem to wait until the whole road is in before they connect the houses. But I think the new houses released today are with Virgin so that might not be as much of an issue.
    The latest release wasn't Seagreen Gate, it was some other houses in by the previous phases.

    New style of house as well I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    molloyjh wrote: »
    Hey, congrats. Which part of the development did you buy in? Is it Seagreen Gate or the ones that ones went up this weekend? Broadband is fine once it's up and running, but that can be an issue itself if you're reliant on Eir. They seem to wait until the whole road is in before they connect the houses. But I think the new houses released today are with Virgin so that might not be as much of an issue.

    Thanks, Seagreen Park I believe. Show houses opened for them a few days ago. I did a quick search on Virgins site and they said that a house on that road has Virgin, so thats good news I suppose. Looks promising that it will be Virgin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    awec wrote: »
    The latest release wasn't Seagreen Gate, it was some other houses in by the previous phases.

    New style of house as well I think.

    Yes, Its called the Valentine. New layout to the other ones.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,326 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Cluster wrote: »
    Hi

    I just put a deposit down on one of these new developments. Hows the broadband these days? I seem to remember a few posts on it last year, I need it for work.

    Any other information for a new incoming neighbour?

    Thanks

    Do you mind me asking how much the house you're buying is in total?


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Do you mind me asking how much the house you're buying is in total?

    Without some adjustments, 550 grand. With adjustments a little more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,767 ✭✭✭✭molloyjh


    awec wrote: »
    The latest release wasn't Seagreen Gate, it was some other houses in by the previous phases.

    New style of house as well I think.

    Yeah, that's why I was asking all right. I think the Gate is Eir but the Park is Virgin.
    Cluster wrote: »
    Thanks, Seagreen Park I believe. Show houses opened for them a few days ago. I did a quick search on Virgins site and they said that a house on that road has Virgin, so thats good news I suppose. Looks promising that it will be Virgin.

    Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's Virgin up there. I know some of the original style houses that they finished recently in the Park are Virgin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭scrabble1498


    Just wondering if anyone who bought in Seagreen Gate recently (new style of houses - the Valentine) has been told of any delays in completion? I know to add on a few months but I swung up there recently and there is very little building going on!!


  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Just wondering if anyone who bought in Seagreen Gate recently (new style of houses - the Valentine) has been told of any delays in completion? I know to add on a few months but I swung up there recently and there is very little building going on!!

    The Valentine style is not seagreen gate (which is the terraced houses on the other side of the road), i think it's just a continuation of seagreen park.

    From what it looks like, they are focusing on finishing seagreen gate before going back over the road to work on the houses you're talking about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    You are correct.

    Seagreen Park will contain the Valentine style houses.

    We are interested in these houses but have been fobbed off by Sherry Fitz several times now in terms of when viewings will be open.

    Seems to be some delays going on alright.

    Hope you didn't buy thinking they were in Seangreen Gate :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭scrabble1498


    Lol, sorry I meant Seagreen Park!!!

    I would have thought Sherry Fitz would be dying to get you in to look at them!


  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    You are correct.

    Seagreen Park will contain the Valentine style houses.

    We are interested in these houses but have been fobbed off by Sherry Fitz several times now in terms of when viewings will be open.

    Seems to be some delays going on alright.

    Hope you didn't buy thinking they were in Seangreen Gate :)

    Yea they way they work is they will open the show house on a weekend or two in a row that they are releasing houses for sale, then they'll have no information or open houses for ages.

    It can be 6+ months between the show houses opening.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    I bought a Valentine. No issue in getting viewings from SF. From talking to people who live there, they had no delays in moving in to their houses. Others are saying add 6 months to the date. We've been told May next year and they've started building ours, so possibly might be in on time. There are fewer builds in this run they are doing in Sea green Park right now so that might speed things up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭scrabble1498


    Oh that’s interesting Cluster! We were told late Summer when we put deposit down - we bought in the second phase of the release of the Valentine but haven’t heard anything since.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Oh that’s interesting Cluster! We were told late Summer when we put deposit down - we bought in the second phase of the release of the Valentine but haven’t heard anything since.

    Oh right. where abouts in relation to the show house is that phase? mine literally just opposite them.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 710 ✭✭✭Blandpebbles


    Cluster wrote: »
    Oh right. where abouts in relation to the show house is that phase? mine literally just opposite them.

    We inquired about the houses directly in front of the show houses and were told they had no completion date as yet.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    We inquired about the houses directly in front of the show houses and were told they had no completion date as yet.

    Right, so thats odd


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭scrabble1498


    Cluster wrote: »
    Oh right. where abouts in relation to the show house is that phase? mine literally just opposite them.

    They released numbers 20 - 34 a few weeks after the initial release. I spoke to SF and they confirmed that after Seagreen Gate is finished, then they’ll
    move to Seagreen Park.


  • Registered Users Posts: 54 ✭✭scrabble1498


    Anyone been around Seagreen Park lately - any more houses built?


  • Registered Users Posts: 27 o2bearebel


    Looks like Sherry Fitz are gearing up to launch a new phase in Seagreen. Anyone have an opinion on whether launch prices will continue to rise in this area and whether they're worth it ? Last phase was selling 4 bed semi-d's for about 545k (which seems like South Dublin prices in Wicklow..)


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    o2bearebel wrote: »
    Looks like Sherry Fitz are gearing up to launch a new phase in Seagreen. Anyone have an opinion on whether launch prices will continue to rise in this area and whether they're worth it ? Last phase was selling 4 bed semi-d's for about 545k (which seems like South Dublin prices in Wicklow..)

    I think the last few will have bigger gardens so will be more expensive, not a 100% on that. There can only be another 30 houses left up there to build i think on that plot of land anyway. Possibly a few more.


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    o2bearebel wrote: »
    Anyone have an opinion on whether launch prices will continue to rise in this area and whether they're worth it ?

    Will an estate agent achieve the highest price possible? Of course they will.
    Are these homes worth it? In my opinion no, but many will argue that a house is worth as much as someone is prepared to pay for it.
    Last phase was selling 4 bed semi-d's for about 545k (which seems like South Dublin prices in Wicklow..)

    Welcome to Greystones :)
    Comparable price points with south Dublin is the new norm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 Donnelna


    o2bearebel wrote: »
    Looks like Sherry Fitz are gearing up to launch a new phase in Seagreen. Anyone have an opinion on whether launch prices will continue to rise in this area and whether they're worth it ? Last phase was selling 4 bed semi-d's for about 545k (which seems like South Dublin prices in Wicklow..)

    The houses are definitely not worth €545. Greystones is nice but it’s not South Dublin. Unless you’re retired with a nice fat pension you’re going to face into a massive commute wherever you work, especially for town where most of the jobs that could afford a 545 mortgage are! You’re over 30km from town, so you’d have a massive commute. At least an hour to an hour and a half. At that distance from work it’d make more sense to buy in Maynooth or Meath, you’ve the same length of a commute but get much better quality for your money! You won’t be crippled with a massive mortgage for a house you’d be leaving before 7am and coming home to after 7pm so you’d only get to enjoy the house at the weekends.

    Plus house prices in South Dublin dropped by 4% last year and are likely to drop again this year given the uncertainty over Brexit. We don’t know how things will go with Brexit, it looks like Boris is going to go for a WTO No Deal style Brexit, which will cause a shock to the Irish economy. It’d be very silly now to pay boom time prices when it looks like we could be facing into another crash.


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Donnelna wrote: »
    The houses are definitely not worth €545. Greystones is nice but it’s not South Dublin. Unless you’re retired with a nice fat pension you’re going to face into a massive commute wherever you work, especially for town where most of the jobs that could afford a 545 mortgage are! You’re over 30km from town, so you’d have a massive commute. At least an hour to an hour and a half. At that distance from work it’d make more sense to buy in Maynooth or Meath, you’ve the same length of a commute but get much better quality for your money! You won’t be crippled with a massive mortgage for a house you’d be leaving before 7am and coming home to after 7pm so you’d only get to enjoy the house at the weekends.

    Plus house prices in South Dublin dropped by 4% last year and are likely to drop again this year given the uncertainty over Brexit. We don’t know how things will go with Brexit, it looks like Boris is going to go for a WTO No Deal style Brexit, which will cause a shock to the Irish economy. It’d be very silly now to pay boom time prices when it looks like we could be facing into another crash.

    Interested to know what you are basing the 'not worth 545k' on. Have you compared house builds across the board? Based it on quality of materials? or just in general, house prices everywhere are not worth it or is it just a Greystones builds arent worth it? Have you been in the houses? talked to the various tradesmen/ builder? talked to people living there? I have, keen to hear what you've gathered compared to me. Obviously very different.

    Ive a mate who said the same thing about not buying because of a crash, that was in 2008 and he still hasnt bought anywhere, saying the same thing now, again. I've got kids growing and life is happening to me so I dont have the luxury of waiting and hedging my bets when the 'next thing' might happen. i wish I was clairvoyant, be handy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SummerSun20


    Has anyone any updates on when the current phase will be finished?


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Has anyone any updates on when the current phase will be finished?

    My house ready to move in in October this year apparently.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4 SummerSun20


    Cluster wrote: »
    My house ready to move in in October this year apparently.

    Thanks for responding, do you mind if I ask if that was the original finish date or if it reflects delays following shut down etc? Thanks


  • Registered Users Posts: 247 ✭✭Cluster


    Thanks for responding, do you mind if I ask if that was the original finish date or if it reflects delays following shut down etc? Thanks

    oh no, pushed out by months due to pandemic. I was up there the other day, possible it will be done by October now I think.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 DC3


    Hi, we have been in a number of months, but we were pushed out month by month,then week by week.
    I wouldn't rely on the move-in date provider by the builder.
    The experience with the developer has been most unpleasant, to put it mildly.
    I'm curious to know if anyone else had had a better experience with the Wood Group?


  • Registered Users Posts: 6 igsigs


    DC3 wrote: »
    Hi, we have been in a number of months, but we were pushed out month by month,then week by week.
    I wouldn't rely on the move-in date provider by the builder.
    The experience with the developer has been most unpleasant, to put it mildly.
    I'm curious to know if anyone else had had a better experience with the Wood Group?

    We're just at the start of the process, so no dealings with them yet. Can I ask what specific issues you've had with them? What was your original promised completion date and what are they telling you now?

    We've been told Feb for a house that they haven't started building yet, so I'm a little skeptical of that.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,603 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    I have not had any direct experience with Wood Group so I can not comment on whether they are pleasant or not to deal with. However I have worked in the construction industry a very long time and their reputation is very good in terms of quality of workmanship. I have also worked (as an electrician) in some of the homes they have built (long after they left) and was impressed with the build quality. In the long run this is far more important that how friendly they are.

    I am still fixing some of the issues left behind by Durkan Residential more than a decade after they finished building my home :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 DC3


    We were told Sep, but it turned out to be December and that was at a real push on our part to get in before Xmas.
    We closed the sale to get in early, believing them when they said they would sort everything highlighted on the snag.
    that was a mistake, communication is poor at best, and I regret taking them at their word, especially on a number of larger items, which they have now rowed back on.

    Greystones is great, and the neighours in Seagreen all seem really nice, and the only complaints I would have about the house are likely common to all new builds, but dealing with the builder has been very unpleasant.
    I guess to sum up my experience, I would not buy a house from them again.

    I hope my experience is exceptional, but everyone I have spoken with have had some complaint, some minor, some major, about them. That said, the tradesmen that worked for them we spoke to always spoke highly of them.


  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Our experience with them has always been very positive to be honest, they've never refused to fix things. The only issue we've ever had was the timelines were very fluffy, but that's common to all developers.

    What's the major things they didn't do for you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3 DC3


    I'm glad to hear you've had a positive experience, I wish I could say the same.
    They have never refused to fix anything, just havent fixed it. There have been a few big items that they have committed to sorting (verbally), but when followed up, the solution is further diluted.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1 CanalEnd


    Are they building more houses in Seagreen Gate behind the hoarding or is there a green planned for there?


  • Administrators Posts: 54,098 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    CanalEnd wrote: »
    Are they building more houses in Seagreen Gate behind the hoarding or is there a green planned for there?

    A green. No more houses in Seagreen Gate.


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