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08-11-2019, 21:40   #1
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Is There Anybody Out There ....?

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I'd like to talk about Linux, please?
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08-11-2019, 22:24   #2
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I'd like to talk about Linux, please?
So... go ahead? Although probably better suited to the Unix forum, unless you specifically talking about the open source aspects of it
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Cool! Yo! Okay, straight in; I'm old. I'm Not the sharpest tool in the box. On 7 and despise 10 (Had it, for a brief time)

Tonight, I said to my ~ similarly challenged ~ mate that, sod it; I was Finally going to look into this " Linux ". It's our last hope

Googled images, hoping to see what it even looks like? All I got was penguins.

" BIOS " is a word I last heard about twenty years ago. " Command Prompt " terrifies me. I just switch my machine on and type annoying nonsense on a couple of fora.

Boom! And, with that, look, 28064212 comes along, talking right over my head I haven't got a clue. Is there any hope for people like me?

I'm seriously wondering how much longer I can stay on line.

Thanks.
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So you're interested in trying Linux? Then yes, the Unix forum is what you want. Linux and Unix don't have exactly the same meaning, but for your purposes, you can consider them to be the same. Ubuntu is one of the most widely-used flavors of Linux, and a good a place as any to start: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop. Read the "From Windows" guide at the bottom first
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Right. Okay. Thank you very much!

It gave me palpitations, even just looking at some of that. But, I see I need a 4GB+ USB Stick? Okay. Cool. I probably have far more GB's available on the couple of sticks I'm using to back stuff up as it is. But, I'd just sooner buy a 5GB, dedicated stick for this.

Believe it or not; This weird little machine of mine doesn't even have a Disc Drive! I haven't played a CD or watched a DVD in a year or two!

See? Ye really are dealing with a cave man here But, yeah; Those links look great. Lots of simple info', in small bites. I'll send for a stick, next week. Then get back to all that. Very much obliged. Thanks
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Whoah!!! Phew! Okay; I've been a very good and busy Stigura. I now have the complete 'Thing' on a third, sacrificial, usb stick

That'll do, for now!

I'm, literally, so fried now, I'd love nothing more than to hit that button and see what ever it is ye've led me to. I already have this glorious vision of telling a couple of mates of mine; " Come on in! The water's lovely! "

But; I got a new phone, just Thursday. Imagine how That's been tormenting me. Now? I'm about to a Richard Burton, in Exorcist 2! After umpteen pints?!

Couple of pints of tea, once I regain consciousness? I'll be up for some of this!

Wish me luck!
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Well ..... That was quite the experience!

Fired it up, off my stick? Actually saw the beaver. But, when I clicked on FireFox (My normal browser, happily) nothing happened

I clicked. Double clicked. Clicked left and right. Nuffn.

Found a search bar. Asked it for " Google "? 'No Results'.

Generally dug about, clicking. Nothing happened.

Tried to leave. Couldn't. Ended up getting the following ~ hope this photo doesn't blow the walls out. I haven't down sized it, lest it make it unreadable:





Absolutely couldn't get off there. Tried Escape. Manically tapped every F button. Ended up having to pull the plug on the machine

For disclosure; I can only cite that I appear to have only exactly half the memory it said I need. Can't do much about that, I imagine? Would that have scuppered me?

In conclusion? I Liked what I saw! It didn't scare me at all. And, I'm sure, I could learn my way around it, just like we all learned things like XP, after what ever the one before was.

So, yeah. I'm up for it Just don't want to go slinging 7 off here, till I know I can at least get this beaver thing to work. I want a fighting chance.

Most eager for further input. (Dear god; Eager beaver? I don't believe I just said that! )
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What are the hardware specifications of the PC you are using to boot the USB stick?

CPU, memory, graphics?
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Is This it, Johnboy? Otherwise, let me know where to find any more and I will. Thanks



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Ah! If it might help ....? Back in 2017, I got a 'back up' machine. Never plugged it in. Been sat on a shelf in my work room ever since. My power tools don't die, out there. I'd hope this machine is still okay? I'd be willing to get it out and feed it this beaver thing.

Details from the amazon order state:

" HP dc7900 Desktop Computer - Powerful Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz E8400 Processor - 160GB HDD - 4GB Memory (RAM) - DVD MultiPlayer - WiFi Enabled - Windows 7 "

Yes. I know; Your phone probably has more power, and is worth more. But, come on lads; I just read a couple of fora and watch Netflix. I need the big screen to see the sub titles. Too deaf now to hear the dialogue.
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Ah! If it might help ....? Back in 2017, I got a 'back up' machine. Never plugged it in. Been sat on a shelf in my work room ever since. My power tools don't die, out there. I'd hope this machine is still okay? I'd be willing to get it out and feed it this beaver thing.

Details from the amazon order state:

" HP dc7900 Desktop Computer - Powerful Intel Core 2 Duo 3.0GHz E8400 Processor - 160GB HDD - 4GB Memory (RAM) - DVD MultiPlayer - WiFi Enabled - Windows 7 "

Yes. I know; Your phone probably has more power, and is worth more. But, come on lads; I just read a couple of fora and watch Netflix. I need the big screen to see the sub titles. Too deaf now to hear the dialogue.
In your position I would try that HP ...... although the link fails the info in the link provided indicates it is well capable of running a LiveUSB Linux session. (not saying the Atom is not - but I have never played with one )

There are hundreds of ISOs for distros out there and it can be difficult at times to find the right fit, out of box, for hardware and personal preferences.

Here is a lightweight ISO that should suit that HP well
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/dis...ni-2019.10.iso

It should work but will have very few applications built in.
There are larger ISOs which will have more applications buit in.
Here is a sample of some of those ISOs from PCLinuxOS
http://ftp.nluug.nl/pub/os/Linux/dis...live-cd/64bit/

If one works then try each in turn to see what you like and do not like.

It is all about the investigation and learning
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Should I take it so that the one I have on the stick has somehow 'corrupted', and I should wipe it and, maybe start again with, say, the one I'm DLing as I type? The one ye show above.

I'm certainly extremely happy with what little I saw. Not scary at all

Ideally, I'd like to find something that works. Then, I'd happily rip 7 straight out of the HP and live the rest of my life on what ever.

Must say, I've Liked 7. Just never had a problem with it. Never any drama. Ten?! Hateful!

Really looking forward to getting one of these ~ not so scary at all, after all ~ systems running
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Okay. Sorry to be such a PITA ..... I've formatted my stick and DL'd the above thing. I was just sliding it onto the stick when it occurred to me maybe I should click it first?

I clicked it and a box said I didn't have a disc burner I went and got the first 'Free Disc Burner' on google. Installed / opened. It said I didn't have a disc burner, or some such! Slung That in horror!

Now, I have this " iso " on my desk top and haven't got a clue what to do with it.

I am trying, and I'm willing to keep on trying. I Want this. I'm just out of my depth and need some patient direction, please.

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Okay. Sorry to be such a PITA ..... I've formatted my stick and DL'd the above thing. I was just sliding it onto the stick when it occurred to me maybe I should click it first?

I clicked it and a box said I didn't have a disc burner I went and got the first 'Free Disc Burner' on google. Installed / opened. It said I didn't have a disc burner, or some such! Slung That in horror!

Now, I have this " iso " on my desk top and haven't got a clue what to do with it.

I am trying, and I'm willing to keep on trying. I Want this. I'm just out of my depth and need some patient direction, please.

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You use a USB 'burner' application ...... similar to burning an ISO to DVD, but for flash sticks.

Rufus for Windows would be one such app that I have heard mentioned (I do not use Windows).

There are a few others also and I am unsure which would be best.

So give Rufus a try!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rufus_(software)

This page might help you

https://mintguide.org/tools/317-make...inux-mint.html

and another
https://www.poftut.com/how-to-create...buntu-windows/

Of course they might only tend to confuse you

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