Wonder Woman 1984

did WW cheat at the start?

Deleted User wrote: »

The tomato score is based on reviewers not audience. It's open to manipulation. Most early reviews may just have or may not have got gifts (total speculation on my part).


I'm glad a third movie is being made, and in fairness the plot seems to have been based on comics. Hopefully there are better stories out there, this was just awful.

RT have both, a critics score and an audience score. Its been noted that the critics scores dropped once the embargo ended, basically the early reviews would be shilling the movie even if it was bad they wouldnt come out and say it.

I’m right now not prepared to ever watch this film again. It was frankly terrible.

Spoiler Thoughts Below:

The opening sequence with young Diana was the best bit of the movie.

The first scene in the 80’s with a woman nearly getting ran over and a bride falling from a bridge was completely stupid and it was very convenient that WW happened to be in the right place at the right time but it was good fun. Same goes for the shopping mall scene. That gets a pass.

Having Steve Trevor in this movie was pointless. He done nothing. Too much time spent on them lovingly gazing into each others eyes while the world was in jeopardy. Don’t even get me started on the rape scenario because the first thing I thought of was that this poor bloke has had his body snatched and for all we know he is dead and Diana or Steve couldn’t care less.

The kids playing football on a road in the middle of nowhere was beyond ridiculous. Diana swooping down and snatching them at the speed she was going would have broke their necks. The fall and roll would have at worse killed them. But no they’re fine.

Steve saying some nonsense about feeling the wind gave Diana the ability to fly. Tut. And don’t talk to me about the stupidity of the invisible jet and how Steve can fly it.

The lasso was completely over done. It seemed to be able to do anything. There’s no limit to its length, its strength, its magical ability to give people visions of a story Diana wants to tell you.

Kristen Wiig was actually not bad but such a generic character arc from a dorky nobody to super villain. Gave me Jamie Foxx Electro vibes.

Pedro Pascal was very good but i think they overshot the “wish” thing and smashed their own rules.

The ending was awful. So what happened to the Russian nukes in the air? America had “wished” nukes which disappeared but the other nukes were real. Where did they land?

The ramifications from that sort of chaos across the world would be unthinkable. But no one seemed to mind. I don’t think anyone on camera actually died in this movie so I guess we just assume everyone lived and forgot about it.

Why did it have to have a Christmas sene at the end? So it’s a Christmas movie i guess.

Last Thought...

Where’s Lynda Carters accent? Surely she should sound like Gal Gadot and the rest of the Amazonians.

DeWitt wrote: »

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Oh! I have an answer for this.
Diana's 3000+ years old and Lynda' s character has been on Earth since the dawn of Themyscira... safe to say she lost it over thousands of years being away from her culture and people.

Except once you have an accent you never really loose it. The film was a such a disappointment to me. The first trailer was perfection and I should have known when most of it had appeared in the first 15 minutes of the movie it was a bad omen. The whole wish thing was just far to whimsical.

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes you can. I certainly don't speak with the Norrie Cork accent I grew up with.

If only that was my only complaint about the movie:)

GSPfan wrote: »

The first scene in the 80’s with a woman nearly getting ran over and a bride falling from a bridge was completely stupid and it was very convenient that WW happened to be in the right place at the right time but it was good fun. Same goes for the shopping mall scene. That gets a pass.

Agreed on basically everything you said. Had actually forgotten about that 'hilarious' moment with the bride.

The shopping mall scene was awful imo - she knocks out cameras so as not to be seen, but spent an absolute eternity capturing the robbers again and again. She couldn't seem to decide on whether or not she wanted to be seen or not.

DC are doing a chronic job of world building it has to be said.

for a 2 and half hour movie they couldn't have done a 5 or 10 intro showing how she was spending her life up to that point? was she ww-ening her way through the decades? was she a Big Foot story? then the whole competition at the beginning, I was just left wondering how a kid could out compete adults? again no explanation for her special powers.

The media are picking on the weird messaging in the movie

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/12/26/the-warped-morality-of-wonder-woman-1984/?sh=35576a3c3e23



The whole flight scene didnt work, could a WW1 pilot just get into a 1980's military jet and just fly it, no explanation? also fighter jets have a range less than 1000miles , there is no conceivable way they were getting to Cairo on that yoke. Also given that they were ransacking the guy's apartment like a couple of psychopaths wasnt there a good chance he had a passport?

its like the movie was a bunch of tick boxes and very little time or consideration given how to link it all together.

silverharp wrote: »

for a 2 and half hour movie they couldn't have done a 5 or 10 intro showing how she was spending her life up to that point? was she ww-ening her way through the decades?

At least we got the Lucy Davis cameo, albeit in a photo, at the start. Thought also struck me that Lex Luther needn't have spent so much time trying to 'out' Diana in the original BvS movie when we now know there were plenty of sightings and news stories about her in the 80's!:D

Snake Plisken wrote: »

I doubt Patty will be left anywhere near the writing of this I actually expect her to be replaced with the excuse of scheduling conflicts.

Yes its interesting to note that she had no writing input in the first film.
I'm not a fan of Geoff Johns either.
The script was like something written by a kid.

Brief_Lives wrote: »

I'll probably wtch it later, and no doubt this has been mentioned by a tonne of people... but with 70+ years of material, why did they feel like writing new story was necessary... hs there been any comments about that?

Seemingly there’s not enough rape material in the comics. They just had to create their own.

dubguy45 wrote: »

That was 2.5 hours I will never get back.

I think the way they (nearly all media at this stage) rate things, whether it's games or films, needs a serious overhaul. OR, we change how we consume reviews because it's clear now that it's not a case of 'they are more or less in line with what I thought of the film' but more 'did they see the same film I just watched?

This was a 13% film if a percentage is a good guage. Currently 65% on RT. They're not even in the right range for this film FFS. It was absolute dogs' sh*t. Sites like Rotten Tomatoes are hard to avoid online,without blocking them, and it has not helped film viewers one bit.

steamsey wrote: »

I think the way they (nearly all media at this stage) rate things, whether it's games or films, needs a serious overhaul. OR, we change how we consume reviews because it's clear now that it's not a case of 'they are more or less in line with what I thought of the film' but more 'did they see the same film I just watched?

This was a 13% film if a percentage is a good guage. Currently 65% on RT. They're not even in the right range for this film FFS. It was absolute dogs' sh*t. Sites like Rotten Tomatoes are hard to avoid online,without blocking them, and it has not helped film viewers one bit.

The reviews for this were probably wrote before Dec 2019 and still used. I'd assume theres already some reviews wrote for the 3rd WW movie.

silverharp wrote: »

The media are picking on the weird messaging in the movie

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2020/12/26/the-warped-morality-of-wonder-woman-1984/?sh=35576a3c3e23

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That's a good read after you've seen the film.

I watched this.
After 15 minutes I sat back and said, I am going to enjoy this movie, its great.
But right there it fell into a mess for the rest of the movie.

Loads of plot holes and looked cheap at times, but I liked it.

I am actually shocked by how poor this movie is. The actors do a pretty good job, Gal Gadot is great, as is Pedro Pascal who just radiates charisma, but the material they're given to work with is just so completely brain-dead.

I do think the first movie was a bit over-rated albeit an easy watch and solid enough, but it's an absolute master piece compared to this.

The first 45 minutes of 84 are quite good and full of promise - the initial opening ceremony/games scene is almost one of the best parts of the movie, and the general introduction of the characters and all the set pieces is pretty compelling, but it all falls apart extremely quickly around half way through and continues on a massive downward slide the whole way to the end.

The movie is absolutely riddled with stupid, blatant logic-defying acts and inconsistencies, none of which were summed up better than when
I genuinely laughed in disbelief when someone a few pages back said it is one of the best movies they've ever seen, and another person suggested that people didn't like it because they were watching it at home and were probably distracted.

I would love to see the movie they saw to be honest. Unfortunately, having given my undivided attention for the entire 2h30m of its runtime, it's an absolute stinker, one of the worst of the superhero movies to date, most certainly the worst out of the DC roster anyway.

I'd say 4/10 is being generous, and most of those points go exclusively to the cast for doing an admirable job with such terrible material. Really taken back by how bad it is, it's made me much more appreciative of the first movie.

God what a pile of crap.
Also what one op said about the .
Pedro Pascal was brilliant in this but halfway through it the story completely falls to pieces and is a massive disappointment.
I'm still thinking of the ending..wtf like???.
Woeful woeful woeful.