Within this reality, been affected by other entities.

mysterious · 13-04-2009 2:57am #1

Now This is my most controversial thread yet. So please bear with me, and I know it's going to pull alot of people in alot of ways.

But first I want to say that I'm posting for wanting to find out what it maybe that is my current problem on this issue I'm going to dicuss.

For the last year, I have done alot of work, in many areas of my life. One of the areas, was asking questions, the hardest ones obviously. I found some answers, some were not, Some were interesting and some were strange.

I have realised, that i'm a being connected to the cosmos, and not just this planet. Everything on this planet in the physical sense in modern day is a distraction of what is and what we are. I've learnt very young, and having a one of my senses damaged, it led me to fine tune on aspects of life that others would not pay attention too. As I've reached my adult life, I have honed in all areas of my life. I'm questioning my existence and I continue to do this. I still have not found all the answer's I seek. I still have not completed what I have to do. Life is a journey obviously you keep learning on the way.

The most important thing is to be aware.

Now coming to my most disturbing stances, and why I brought it to this forum.

Is I now am aware of certain entities trying to get into my my psyche. And distorting my thoughts and equilberlierm, everytime, I take a leap of faith, or any time I conquer something. Now I thought it was just a fear. So I teased the fear. I've come to the conclusion the fear is completley irrational and alien to me. It has bears no connection to me or how I am now. But it affects me. For example I'm busy cooking, talking or doing things.

The thougths and feelings happen like on a subconcious level. I order it to go, but somewhere in my mind it finds a way to bring me down. I'm aware of this entity and it is of completley different wavelengths to me. I want to be clear when I say this. I have never experienced this before. I'm kind of disturbed by this, because I'm aware of my own power and cause effect. But somehow this "unfamilar entity attack" my mind. Trying to undo my growth and acension of higher conciousness.

What can I do, to remove this and defeat this pernamently. If I believe and feel that I'm acending and that I'm growing spiritually progressively, why I'm confronting this energy that is not mine? I want to go, it bears no reference to my own self. Infact it's trying to control my subcouncious. It's annoys me, cus I'm well able to block certain things out, and well able to turn negative into a positive.

Right now, Everytime this "comes up" I gradully self afirm myself, that I can conquer this unknown process that surfaces to me. Each time I'm successful and when I'm totally back into my self and empowered, it finds another way to get back in:mad:

It is really really making me so angry. To the point, I'm asking the world here now, wtf am I fighting this for?

liah · 13-04-2009 4:00am

Okay, I really don't want to come off as sounding rude or condescending or anything, honest.

But have you been checked for schizophrenia?

seanybiker · 13-04-2009 4:30am

I must say I agree with liah on this one. Sounds a bit strange to be honest.

Mr. Frost · 13-04-2009 4:36am

Sounds kinda like narcissitic personality disorder (from what I've read about it - I'm certainly no expert!) You should speak to a doctor for sure.

karynp · 13-04-2009 6:15pm

other side of that is,that it IS an aspect of your personality that you have to work through.it all sounds a bit odd. i know when growin in spirituality,all parts of our personality have to be looked at,even the darkest areas.
i know people are saying its a mental disorder,i dunno,perhaps or perhaps not.
have you ever felt there was anything attacking your mind before?
dont mind my asking but do you use drugs of any kind or have you in the past that could be affecting you now,or ar you burying an emotional trauma thats finding its way out in other ways.
i dont understand why another "entity" would attack you and try to stop your development,it dont make sense.
if you could explain a bit more as your post is a bit scattered.dont be put off by peoples comments,please tell us more as im inclined to be concerned for you.

DANNY22XX · 13-04-2009 7:14pm

liah wrote: »

Okay, I really don't want to come off as sounding rude or condescending or anything, honest.

But have you been checked for schizophrenia?

hit the nail on the head there ,,:eek::eek:

mysterious · 13-04-2009 7:33pm

Guys, Everyone has some mental disorder. I am by no means deformed, handicapped, Narriscistic, stupid, slow, manic depressive, attention seeking.

I guess none of you above understand, so none of you have real criticisms, that I'm looking for. Your all quick to label me and put me into a category of a nutter, cus none of you have the capability of looking at another person's actual point of view. I'm looking for people, who have a higher mind or an developed conciousnesses to give me feedback.

P.S I went to the doctor about it 7 months ago, There is nothing mentally wrong with me personally. This is why I'm posting this thread. It's outside influences.

Put it this way, we as human beings are not alone on this galaxy;) We are on top of the food chain on this planet, but on the bottom outside this planet.

Guess none of you have flying clue of this realty. To bad for me, though, I was hoping to get a better response.

mysterious · 13-04-2009 7:36pm

DANNY22XX wrote: »

hit the nail on the head there ,,:eek::eek:

I don't suffer from Schrephrenia, and no there is no voices in my head, and no there isn't people talking to me. :rolleyes:

I guess you obviously don't even know what that condition is.

Can I ask the mod, to ban anyone who name calls people, cracked, nuts, mental please. I find it very insulting, it's quite rude and off topic. If it was a mental issue, I would of post it in the Personal issues forum. I'm wanting opinions from this forum, so I can get some metaphysical responses.

mysterious · 13-04-2009 7:48pm

karynp wrote: »

have you ever felt there was anything attacking your mind before?

Not like this, put it this way

I'm at a time of my life, where im learning, progressing and everything going for me, But there IS something outside of me, trying to prevent me from doing that. For example. it scrambles my thoughts. It plays on my old fears (which I've conquered) It has also made really weird thought patterns that actually affect my health.

dont mind my asking but do you use drugs of any kind or have you in the past that could be affecting you now,or ar you burying an emotional trauma thats finding its way out in other ways.

I don't take drugs, I don't smoke and I drink sparingly. I don't take medication and I don't eat crap food. As I said there is no connection with this mental condition that I have. There is no connection with me and my thoughts whatsoever.

Emotional issues I have mostly dealth with over the last two years, as I go to a therapist once a week, for childhood trauma. I've overcome this. But this entity is playing me and keeping me stuck in this mindset.

i dont understand why another "entity" would attack you and try to stop your development,it dont make sense.

Well, sometimes in life, you experiences things that empowers you, and makes you in a very strong position, it threatens others. Ever since I've hit this note. I'm been bombarded by this energy. Basically it wants to stop me from doing the work that I'm doing in this reality. Some entitiy fears my own purpose here and now.

I now this sounds all far fetched, I'll use a classic example of the power i'm talking about.

JFK had all the power in the world, and used his power for the greater good, yet many people behind him feared his power, and the exploitation of the bad, was becoming to apparent, so the people didn't want him to create this change, So they kiled him.

This is what it feels like. Now you can all say this is in my head. fair enough I can see why people would think that. But I order these thoughts to go and they go. When I do regain my senses, it battles me. It's like something is trying to prevent me from been grounded and empowered.:(

if you could explain a bit more as your post is a bit scattered.dont be put off by peoples comments,please tell us more as im inclined to be concerned for you.

Thanks for your feedback. I really really want to understand this, It helps to get feedback from others, So I can logically gain understanding what is going on for me.

Gillo · 13-04-2009 8:06pm

mysterious wrote: »

Not like this, put it this way

I'm at a time of my life, where im learning, progressing and everything going for me, But there IS something outside of me, trying to prevent me from doing that. For example. it scrambles my thoughts. It plays on my old fears (which I've conquered) It has also made really weird thought patterns that actually affect my health.

Can you say what you're learning? I get the idea you're not talking about standard "life skills"

Have you tried communicating with whatever it is?

O'Coonassa · 13-04-2009 8:13pm

mysterious wrote: »

Is I now am aware of certain entities trying to get into my my psyche. And distorting my thoughts and equilberlierm, everytime, I take a leap of faith, or any time I conquer something. Now I thought it was just a fear. So I teased the fear. I've come to the conclusion the fear is completley irrational and alien to me.

But of course you were not always human and it is hard to escape from the fish, the lizard and the monkey because you carry them with you everywhere. They are not an outside entity they are a part of you and always impinge your consciousness to some degree. If you recognise that it's just you rather than some entity then you'll be better off IMO.

mysterious · 13-04-2009 8:43pm

Gillo wrote: »

Can you say what you're learning? I get the idea you're not talking about standard "life skills"

Have you tried communicating with whatever it is?

The power of one. That is what I've come to learn. The power of your existence, is EXACTLY like a ripple in a pond. Your existence is expanding and creating the universe as we speak.

Since I naturally understand this cosmic knowing, I have leaped the bounds of earth physical barriers.

The other entities, co exist in other worlds, other dimensions other galaxies, some are silighty more advanced some are billions years into . stages.

I don't talk to them, they channel through me. There is no words, you just know. Its powerful feelings and energy. It is timeless. As I said, my mind just seems perfect to soak up these energies, the higher I go, the higher the fall from behind. I'm aware this particular entity does not want people to think like me. Since I'm stuck on "earth" if you will. My soul is constantly torned with the trivaility of physical reality and that of the cosmic reality everything beyond earth. It's actually in everyone one of us, i just somehow was given the life to expand it.

I believe more will do what I'm doing. I hope one day I can master this, there is not many people I can learn from, and it could make or break me.

They do not want our race to think in a universal expansive way. They don't want us to recognise the subltes of life.They use our power systems, technologies and leaders to control us. Different entities come through. I've also come to understand good and evil and what it means. Most people want to categories like this. This is incorrect. Each entity or race of beings, has their agenda, it may be appear good to you, it appear be bad to another. But each of the enities I feel, have their own purpose. Each of the ones, I pick up, are aware of our existence. I constantly get the awarness of us been pawns on a chess board, It's a double edged sword for me, as I'm a pawn watching them. This is why I'm torn in all of this. It's not that they are evil or good, they want us to think black and white, logic form. This is why most of us are all cot up.

The leaders of this world are unaware of it, They do not realise that the havok and power corruption they create was designed by these entities to keep us cot up in circles. like an infection you don't know you have. I know these are just general examples. It's far too deep and complex to try and explain in great detail of each example. There are an infinite number of examples given to me. But some are just to difficult to show or express on here.

Since I've broken free about a year ago, and managed to change my own inner and outer world. Since I began to remember my souls codes. My purpose and my ambitions, This tidal wave wants to stop me. My creative energies and intution has risen. So the higher I go, the greater the challenges, so why do I bother keep going with this. I've asked myself this. And deep down I know, if I don't I will fail my purpose, and If I do continue I just have to keep going like this, if not forever. The universe, keeps expanding and colasping, our universe will be replaced again, and yes there will be new life, and yes the higher conciousness is there and always was there. But I just don't understand why it's too repeat over and over. My mind has completely surpassed this 3D reality.

I'm learning, how to manifest myself into a multi dimensional existence, now with this vast energy field, lies a cocoon of the unknown. I also am aware that my nature, always challenges these dark waters. I just don't understand why I'm doing this, going this direction and fighthing this energy.

Believe, they are days where I go, I can't take this anymore and I Just go why am I been drawn to this. So many aspects of my life, is showing my power where I can literally shape people and effect people whereever I go. I'm not able for this energy. I can literally make myself sick in a moment. I can draw people towards me, I can change the moods around me. I can even give an image of how I see something in the world, and it seeems to happen. And yes, telepathy and all that jazz too I can do.

But these energies are just too overwhelming, to the point, i have spent the last 6 months trying to balance my negative/Postive balance. This is why I'm coming to the conclusion why can't I get my equilibrium back. Why can't I gain my sense of self back. My empowerment. My inspiration. I'm fighting this energy and it's driving me nuts.:mad:

I'm posting anymonous, just so you know in real life, I look like your happy go lucky cheerful kinda guy. Most people in real life, know that I'm pretty intimidating or unique aslo. But none of the above have I ever ever dicussed with anyone in the real world. So I feel safer to say it on here withouth worrying the reactions I get. Because I really don't care if people don't believe me. But these are my experiences and There is something within it that I don't find comfortable livin with and it's these unknown entities.

They are far more evolved than me or anything in 3d existence.

jonbravo · 13-04-2009 11:05pm

mysterious wrote: »

The power of one. That is what I've come to learn. The power of your existence, is EXACTLY like a ripple in a pond. Your existence is expanding and creating the universe as we speak.

Since I naturally understand this cosmic knowing, I have leaped the bounds of earth physical barriers.

The other entities, co exist in other worlds, other dimensions other galaxies, some are silighty more advanced some are billions years into . stages.

I don't talk to them, they channel through me. There is no words, you just know. Its powerful feelings and energy. It is timeless. As I said, my mind just seems perfect to soak up these energies, the higher I go, the higher the fall from behind. I'm aware this particular entity does not want people to think like me. Since I'm stuck on "earth" if you will. My soul is constantly torned with the trivaility of physical reality and that of the cosmic reality everything beyond earth. It's actually in everyone one of us, i just somehow was given the life to expand it.

I believe more will do what I'm doing. I hope one day I can master this, there is not many people I can learn from, and it could make or break me.

They do not want our race to think in a universal expansive way. They don't want us to recognise the subltes of life.They use our power systems, technologies and leaders to control us. Different entities come through. I've also come to understand good and evil and what it means. Most people want to categories like this. This is incorrect. Each entity or race of beings, has their agenda, it may be appear good to you, it appear be bad to another. But each of the enities I feel, have their own purpose. Each of the ones, I pick up, are aware of our existence. I constantly get the awarness of us been pawns on a chess board, It's a double edged sword for me, as I'm a pawn watching them. This is why I'm torn in all of this. It's not that they are evil or good, they want us to think black and white, logic form. This is why most of us are all cot up.

The leaders of this world are unaware of it, They do not realise that the havok and power corruption they create was designed by these entities to keep us cot up in circles. like an infection you don't know you have. I know these are just general examples. It's far too deep and complex to try and explain in great detail of each example. There are an infinite number of examples given to me. But some are just to difficult to show or express on here.

Since I've broken free about a year ago, and managed to change my own inner and outer world. Since I began to remember my souls codes. My purpose and my ambitions, This tidal wave wants to stop me. My creative energies and intution has risen. So the higher I go, the greater the challenges, so why do I bother keep going with this. I've asked myself this. And deep down I know, if I don't I will fail my purpose, and If I do continue I just have to keep going like this, if not forever. The universe, keeps expanding and colasping, our universe will be replaced again, and yes there will be new life, and yes the higher conciousness is there and always was there. But I just don't understand why it's too repeat over and over. My mind has completely surpassed this 3D reality.

I'm learning, how to manifest myself into a multi dimensional existence, now with this vast energy field, lies a cocoon of the unknown. I also am aware that my nature, always challenges these dark waters. I just don't understand why I'm doing this, going this direction and fighthing this energy.

Believe, they are days where I go, I can't take this anymore and I Just go why am I been drawn to this. So many aspects of my life, is showing my power where I can literally shape people and effect people whereever I go. I'm not able for this energy. I can literally make myself sick in a moment. I can draw people towards me, I can change the moods around me. I can even give an image of how I see something in the world, and it seeems to happen. And yes, telepathy and all that jazz too I can do.

But these energies are just too overwhelming, to the point, i have spent the last 6 months trying to balance my negative/Postive balance. This is why I'm coming to the conclusion why can't I get my equilibrium back. Why can't I gain my sense of self back. My empowerment. My inspiration. I'm fighting this energy and it's driving me nuts.:mad:

I'm posting anymonous, just so you know in real life, I look like your happy go lucky cheerful kinda guy. Most people in real life, know that I'm pretty intimidating or unique aslo. But none of the above have I ever ever dicussed with anyone in the real world. So I feel safer to say it on here withouth worrying the reactions I get. Because I really don't care if people don't believe me. But these are my experiences and There is something within it that I don't find comfortable livin with and it's these unknown entities.

They are far more evolved than me or anything in 3d existence.

i think i could help with this,other then entities what would you say affects you!?

mysterious · 13-04-2009 11:29pm

jonbravo wrote: »

i think i could help with this,other then entities what would you say affects you!?

Basically accessing my subconcious, and making it so difficult for my conciousness to undo the hardwiring that is been done.

I will tell you just how disturbing it is.

My self worth, in question.
My ego drive is just "error" I can't get the ego mindset off, considering I'm gone way beyond the ego basic self. Yet the petty ego annyoance, like am I good enough, am powerful enough, and all this nonsense which is just unbelievable to me that I'm stuck in these thoughts?
Self harm is another, thoughts to harm myself, whenever I have self positive afrimations a thought where Im just literally stuck and cannot access the positive factors, whenever I do, it's a war game to get to my own thinking and my own soul.

It is not like depression where negativity and positivity are unbalanced. I have overcome depression and I've been through depression. As I said before I've made all the right steps and obseverations of myself to know it's is not mental or depression.

Another one, is, doubting, I doubt over loves, previous relationships, and I know this is not me whatsoever. I doubt loyalty in people and friends who are loyal. This I know is not rational. Yet I never ever had these thoughts, even if I ever had these thoughts, I know that I can removed these thoughts because they are not of any effect to my reality and whats existing around me. Basically all the chaos you can think of is trying to get through to me. Does this make any sense. Basically in all that I acheieve and all that is made known to me, in this world.In all that the cosmos teaches me, other entities try to block me as everytime I take another step up. Like Climbing a step stairs, where the next step is more painful than the next to go up. It's like a black hole or something, I order it to go away, but it's even harming my body, I'm here telling you, I don't want to harm my body, I make positive afirmations whrre my subconcious is showing myself that I am thinking positive. Yet there is "THIS THING" outside of me, AND i cant put my finger on it. It's pretty upsetting to be honest. In all the pride that I have, anyone who knows me personally, never see me as someone who is pessisimistic or a failure. People actually look up to me. So it's pretty frustrating as I express all this here.

At the same time, I still manage to gain knowledge, wisdom and energy from other entities who guide me and give me strenght. I know ever as I posted this paragraph it still is showing extreme unbalance, and I'm trying to figure out what the hell is causing this stuff.

BTW anyone who think I'm nuts and has too much time on thier hands.

I study, I work, I'm self independant in every way, I go out, I keep fit and I eat exceptionally well. I have hobbies and I do normal things. Just some warnings before people blow at me.

jonbravo · 13-04-2009 11:59pm

mysterious wrote: »

Basically accessing my subconcious, and making it so difficult for my conciousness to undo the hardwiring that is been done.

I will tell you just how disturbing it is.

My self worth, in question.
My ego drive is just "error" I can't get the ego mindset off, considering I'm gone way beyond the ego basic self. Yet the petty ego annyoance, like am I good enough, am powerful enough, and all this nonsense which is just unbelievable to me that I'm stuck in these thoughts?
Self harm is another, thoughts to harm myself, whenever I have self positive afrimations a thought where Im just literally stuck and cannot access the positive factors, whenever I do, it's a war game to get to my own thinking and my own soul.

It is not like depression where negativity and positivity are unbalanced. I have overcome depression and I've been through depression. As I said before I've made all the right steps and obseverations of myself to know it's is not mental or depression.

Another one, is, doubting, I doubt over loves, previous relationships, and I know this is not me whatsoever. I doubt loyalty in people and friends who are loyal. This I know is not rational. Yet I never ever had these thoughts, even if I ever had these thoughts, I know that I can removed these thoughts because they are not of any effect to my reality and whats existing around me. Basically all the chaos you can think of is trying to get through to me. Does this make any sense. Basically in all that I acheieve and all that is made known to me, in this world.In all that the cosmos teaches me, other entities try to block me as everytime I take another step up. Like Climbing a step stairs, where the next step is more painful than the next to go up. It's like a black hole or something, I order it to go away, but it's even harming my body, I'm here telling you, I don't want to harm my body, I make positive afirmations whrre my subconcious is showing myself that I am thinking positive. Yet there is "THIS THING" outside of me, AND i cant put my finger on it. It's pretty upsetting to be honest. In all the pride that I have, anyone who knows me personally, never see me as someone who is pessisimistic or a failure. People actually look up to me. So it's pretty frustrating as I express all this here.

At the same time, I still manage to gain knowledge, wisdom and energy from other entities who guide me and give me strenght. I know ever as I posted this paragraph it still is showing extreme unbalance, and I'm trying to figure out what the hell is causing this stuff.

BTW anyone who think I'm nuts and has too much time on thier hands.

I study, I work, I'm self independant in every way, I go out, I keep fit and I eat exceptionally well. I have hobbies and I do normal things. Just some warnings before people blow at me.

so is it safe to say you fear your own ego mindset!?
your thoughts, thoughts to harm yourself are sign's of depression, No!?
also to doubt is to have fear in a way.
i dont think any-one thinks your nuts just your post's, because of your extreme un-balance of which you wrote already...as you posted the paragraph.

its nice to have an open mind,but its nice not to get lost there..

Zillah · 14-04-2009 5:17am

Schizophrenia doesn't necessarily mean hearing voices. What happens is that communication between different parts of the brain becomes disrupted and they start to experience their own thoughts as if they were not their own. They can hear voices, they can think they're becoming telepathic, and yes, they can feel that another sentience is encroaching on their mind.

I'm not saying this to put you down, to insult you or anything like that. All I'm saying is that what you have described sounds exactly like schizophrenia. The 'entities' invading your mind are probably your own thoughts that you no longer recognise as your own. This is only going to get worse without treatment.

I would suggest going to a psychologist and explain to them exactly what you just said here. Do you have friends or family that you've explained this to?

Even if you're pretty sure it's an alien thought invasion, why not go to a psychologist just to be sure?

hiorta · 14-04-2009 8:36am

Mysterious, do you wish to change your situation and if so, would you wish to experience more or less of the contacts?
I think I can marginally relate to what you describe and am trying to intuitively 'feel it out'. There is much more around us than we realise, but all is under Natural Law, so use your mental abilities to think peace, love and kindness and try to distance thoughts that you consider of a hostile nature.
We draw to ourselves with our thoughts.
I'd suggest that our 'subconscious' or automatic mind is usually beyond our control by definition - no doubt for very good reasons. Could you avoid using your necessary energies in this way. Surely this cannot be useful or beneficial to you?
Meditation helps to calm and order the mind, but not instantly. Would this skill be useful?

There is much around us that can and does influence us all the while, though we can filter out what is unwanted.

All is vibration and as we change within a frequency range constantly who can say there are not some folk who are a little less restricted in depth and range than is generally the case. Take Mediums as an example. Animals and wildlife seem to have a telepathic ability not terribly strong in ourselves.

I hope you can find your answers and peace within your being. You can help to bring this about by your thinking and environment.

stevenmu · 14-04-2009 12:07pm

Ok, since this isn't a medical forum, now that possible medical issues have been mentioned, can we leave any further discussion of medical issues out of this thread and focus on the paranormal aspect.

mysterious · 14-04-2009 2:35pm

hiorta wrote: »

Mysterious, do you wish to change your situation and if so, would you wish to experience more or less of the contacts?
I think I can marginally relate to what you describe and am trying to intuitively 'feel it out'. There is much more around us than we realise, but all is under Natural Law, so use your mental abilities to think peace, love and kindness and try to distance thoughts that you consider of a hostile nature.

I want to be my own person. my own thoughts and my own creation. All my life, I was able to harness my own gifts. Now It just feels like im walking through a room, and I'm bombarded from energies across the galaxy.

I believe it has to got to do with the fact that we are experiencing energies and entities from all over the galaxy as we fast approaching galaxtic day. The reason why I know this is not a medical condition and it's not schphrenia(however you spell it) Is cause it's not words, its not voices, its not chemicals. It's other living entities accessing my mind. I have always had an instinctive powerful mind that can read thoughts and feelings from around me. I've know this ability since I was a young child. I'm specifically mentioning this thread only for this issue that I have. I'm going to tell you all, that this is a peanut fraction of what is going on in my world.

I don't suffer from mental issues, but I can say there is an imbalance in my brain, and something outside of me has helped to trigger it. Thats what I'm saying.

[quote[
We draw to ourselves with our thoughts.
I'd suggest that our 'subconscious' or automatic mind is usually beyond our control by definition - no doubt for very good reasons. Could you avoid using your necessary energies in this way. Surely this cannot be useful or beneficial to you?
Meditation helps to calm and order the mind, but not instantly. Would this skill be useful?[/quote] I try to do meditation, but I'm still struggling with it, my mind is like a burning disk for the last few months.

There is much around us that can and does influence us all the while, though we can filter out what is unwanted.

That's something that I do all the time.

I hope you can find your answers and peace within your being. You can help to bring this about by your thinking and environment.

I'm hoping, I just need to find out the cause of this, so I can stop it and overcome it, and fufill my purpose.

espinolman · 14-04-2009 11:21pm

mysterious wrote: »

What can I do, to remove this and defeat this pernamently.

Go for a walk and look at things , keep looking at things , at trees , houses, cars or anything , it is very , very important to do this , keep an eye on things , no matter what happens keep looking at things .
Also anything you like doing , do that , whatever it is you like doing and don't let anyone upset you , but keep looking at things ,that is very important , now that is the one thing that those 'entities' don't want you to do is look around , but that is how to defeat this .
What happens when people look around is that they wake up , you see your awake level is not a constant , you can become more and more awake and aware by looking , now you see those entities don't want people to wake up , they really don't , so the thing to do is to really look around , oh yea that is definitely the thing to do , and doing this i think will solve your problem because i know about this , i know what you are talking about .

mysterious · 15-04-2009 12:18am

espinolman wrote: »

Go for a walk and look at things , keep looking at things , at trees , houses, cars or anything , it is very , very important to do this , keep an eye on things , no matter what happens keep looking at things .
Also anything you like doing , do that , whatever it is you like doing and don't let anyone upset you , but keep looking at things ,that is very important , now that is the one thing that those 'entities' don't want you to do is look around , but that is how to defeat this .
What happens when people look around is that they wake up , you see your awake level is not a constant , you can become more and more awake and aware by looking , now you see those entities don't want people to wake up , they really don't , so the thing to do is to really look around , oh yea that is definitely the thing to do , and doing this i think will solve your problem because i know about this , i know what you are talking about .

Thanks a great deal Espinonalman, this is why I was getting a bit upset( I'm tough I know:rolleyes:) The labels, oh your this, oh your that.

Another way of self defeat. I know and I'm glad you know what I'm talking about;) Sometimes a great leader will turn bad, sometimes a great country will self destruct, sometimes a great person will die.

I don't want to be another one. I don't want to throw away what I've come and what I've come to know. The awakening of this world must happen. The advice I'm getting here is really really helping. I was losing touch with my own power and awarness for the last few months.

Conclusion to this thread.
Mental issues and depression are caused by these entities, as these entities control this existence for the most part. The abuse, war, hate and division, lust are all used to further prevent us from being aware. The labels, words and adjectives used to describes behaviours, further puts people into division and separate groups. The drug industry also further exasperate the problems with depression. Everything on this planet has become so unatural and so unhealthy.

It's only a matter of time before the great destruction comes. If it can harm an awakened being, there is much more to come. This cleansing has to happen.I have to go through this patch.

hiorta · 15-04-2009 9:28am

The advice to get out into natural surroundings seems very sensible, Mysterious.

Long ago I read a book by Silver Birch, which contained the short maxim: 'all things work wisely and well' - which does seem to be the case whether we agree or not.

Many things also seem to stem from within ourslves, fatigue, worry, anxiety, etc. giving a distorted picture of the true situation.
In modern towns and cities, we live in a micro-wave soup, as well as traffic fumes and electro-magnetic stuff, if we live near pylons or close to the DART routes. We are indoors a lot, so the combibed effects of all this is largely unknown. Getting out of it into rural surroundings for as long and as often as possible, helps to restore our natural balances. As has been suggested, focussing on/ noticing what is around you is very beneficial.

Outside influences or entities can only have the importance we allow them, so mentally giving them low priority in life, filling your day wiith enjoyable and more positive matters is a great help too.

karynp · 15-04-2009 12:46pm

This may well be a learning curve for all of us interested in this subject,id suggest for those who cant or dont want to lean from it just to completly stay out of it as i totally agree with you that some comments are highly insulting and plain old mean to you and your concern. hopefully,together,a few of us can help you sort it out.

mysterious wrote: »

Not like this, put it this way

I'm at a time of my life, where im learning, progressing and everything going for me, But there IS something outside of me, trying to prevent me from doing that. For example. it scrambles my thoughts. It plays on my old fears (which I've conquered) It has also made really weird thought patterns that actually affect my health.

I don't take drugs, I don't smoke and I drink sparingly. I don't take medication and I don't eat crap food. As I said there is no connection with this mental condition that I have. There is no connection with me and my thoughts whatsoever.

Emotional issues I have mostly dealth with over the last two years, as I go to a therapist once a week, for childhood trauma. I've overcome this. But this entity is playing me and keeping me stuck in this mindset.

Well, sometimes in life, you experiences things that empowers you, and makes you in a very strong position, it threatens others. Ever since I've hit this note. I'm been bombarded by this energy. Basically it wants to stop me from doing the work that I'm doing in this reality. Some entitiy fears my own purpose here and now.

I now this sounds all far fetched, I'll use a classic example of the power i'm talking about.

JFK had all the power in the world, and used his power for the greater good, yet many people behind him feared his power, and the exploitation of the bad, was becoming to apparent, so the people didn't want him to create this change, So they kiled him.

This is what it feels like. Now you can all say this is in my head. fair enough I can see why people would think that. But I order these thoughts to go and they go. When I do regain my senses, it battles me. It's like something is trying to prevent me from been grounded and empowered.:(

Thanks for your feedback. I really really want to understand this, It helps to get feedback from others, So I can logically gain understanding what is going on for me.

I am pie · 15-04-2009 4:17pm

An honest question mysterious, a lot of your statement have hints of scientology. Beings from another world, no drugs, attacks on drug companies.

Are you a scientologist ? Do you find inspiration from this 'religion'

mysterious · 15-04-2009 6:10pm

I am pie wrote: »

An honest question mysterious, a lot of your statement have hints of scientology. Beings from another world, no drugs, attacks on drug companies.

Are you a scientologist ? Do you find inspiration from this 'religion'

Scientology is like a supermarket, alot of food in it, some bad, some horrible some poionous, take your pick and lets make my own soup.

This soup cost money, It's good for you says the shopkeeper, (whether it is or not) but you gotta pay for it.

Thats scientology. I would eat my own **** quicker than be insulted by that crap.

So to answer your question, No I'm not a scientologist. I would take offence to this, for the simple reason. It is the greatest load of poo, to actually pay for something you believe in and requires your faith. Faith should never cost money. Nature and higher conciousness is not about money. You don't and I mean NEVER pay for something that holds knowledge. It is the greatest insult to humanity. I get really uneasy when I see people paying for this nonsense. I would hope people in this day and age have woken up to the idea of money and it's use for power over others. Money is going to end and it will end.

The second part of your question.
The cosmos gives me inspiration, reminds me of how small I am on this planet, but to remind me how big my role is here. and to remind me that I have to expand this mind I have. The universe is your reflection. It is you, and your entity is also causing the expansion. The universe is energy. And energy gives me the inspiration to be apart of it. Right now, I'm trying to regain my inner equilberlium and keep grounded on this earth, not everything in the universe is sweet and this earth reminds me of that. The universe is chaos, the mind is trying to understand the universe. The higher conciouseness is the knowingness of all creation. The source of all that is happening here and forever.

espinolman · 15-04-2009 9:54pm

I have another suggestion besides going for walks and looking around and also doing things/activities that you like doing . A source for good advice which has helped me in the past is trees , particularly older trees , you could ask them , trees are sentient beings and they know a lot , they have given me very good advice in the past .

mysterious · 15-04-2009 10:02pm

espinolman wrote: »

I have another suggestion besides going for walks and looking around and also doing things/activities that you like doing . A source for good advice which has helped me in the past is trees , particularly older trees , you could ask them , trees are sentient beings and they know a lot , they have given me very good advice in the past .

I'm starting a creative writing course soon, so that will help. I'm actually growing plants too, and doing some road side planting, for my grandparents tragic accident that took place there many years ago. Also took up swimming and cycling. I'm also going for a vitamin/allergy test too. Getting rid of this man made CRAP that we put into our bodies.

Also since I've become so intune to nature, the radio annoys the hell out of me:D

Also The lady gaga music? Who write's that, it's really really bad songs and yrics for your state/wellbeing. All those Rhianna songs, subconciously affect people and none of you realise it;) Listen songs of all the recent female artist's. Katy perry aswell.

All of it is trash to the brain, all have the same thing in common, influencng teenagers to be junkies and whores. Every where you look no matter what radio, t.v or media channel, it's all turned into brainwashing. It's no wonder that Americans are among the most superficial and depressed in the world.

When the Nazis finally take over Europe again, Say bye bye to reality.

Espinolman I don't really talk to trees, But I'm aware of them and I do appreciate them. It is proven that trees naturally calm you. That's why the council want to put them on city streets where nightlife and cafes flourish;)

I was told once, that my inspiration and my inner soul, resembles the nature of trees.

The tree of life. That is what my life is about. Don't ask me what it means, I haven't actually delved into that.

mysterious · 15-04-2009 10:04pm

espinolman wrote: »

I have another suggestion besides going for walks and looking around and also doing things/activities that you like doing . A source for good advice which has helped me in the past is trees , particularly older trees , you could ask them , trees are sentient beings and they know a lot , they have given me very good advice in the past .

What kind of advice?

Are you been serious?

espinolman · 15-04-2009 10:30pm

mysterious wrote: »

What kind of advice?

Are you been serious?

Trees' know a lot more than us humans , reading your posts i reckon this is something that trees would know about , if entities are visiting earth from other parts of this galaxy trees' would definitely be aware of this , i can assure you , i am being serious , as to communicating with trees and plants i would recommend you read a book by Michael J. Rhodes maybe 'talking with nature' by Michael J. Rhodes , there is a shop in blackrock near the entrance to the shopping centre i think it sells aromatherapy products or something , but i have seen his books in there, or else some shop that sells spiritual books , or there might be somewhere on the internet that explains how to communicate with plants , i'm not sure where.

mysterious · 15-04-2009 10:35pm

espinolman wrote: »

Trees' know a lot more than us humans , reading your posts i reckon this is something that trees would know about , if entities are visiting earth from other parts of this galaxy trees' would definitely be aware of this , i can assure you , i am being serious , as to communicating with trees and plants i would recommend you read a book by Michael J. Rhodes maybe 'talking with nature' by Michael J. Rhodes , there is a shop in blackrock near the entrance to the shopping centre i think it sells aromatherapy products or something , but i have seen his books in there, or else some shop that sells spiritual books , or there might be somewhere on the internet that explains how to communicate with plants , i'm not sure where.

I can sense things in nature, But I would not go up to a tree and speak english to it, I'm sorry but thats just insane IMO.

The only thing that you can pick up from trees "maybe" is energy and visions of the trees life from it's birth. How healthy it is how sick it is etc. Trees are grounding and calming. I'm just not gone on the idea that trees speak, but they do speak in nature way, but that's if your in touch with nature.

espinolman · 15-04-2009 10:51pm

mysterious wrote: »

I can sense things in nature, But I would not go up to a tree and speak english to it, I'm sorry but thats just insane IMO.

I did'nt say communicate with a tree by speaking english to it , you see communication is not just about vibrating the air with vocal cords , there are other ways of communicating , i have never spoken to a tree by vibrating the air , vibrating the air is just one form of communication , there are many other ways of communicating .

cardshark202 · 16-04-2009 2:34am

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mysterious · 16-04-2009 3:28am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtFSUCbsxj8&feature=related

Can a mod put this into a video, This is exactly the type of video is what I'm talking about. This is the kind of universe we live in, We are enslaved on this planet. We have to pay to live on this planet. We have to pay, to surivive. We are at our mercy of lust, power, drugs, sex and alchohol.

This is my issue. I can't take this anymore, since I get vast info from outside this planet. There is 200billion stars in our own galaxy with Planets found everywhere... I just don't understand why people can't understand that everything is been hidden from us. I can't understand why enlightened aware people are still barely hanging waiting for their fellow brother and sister of this race still not aware.

mysterious · 16-04-2009 3:30am

cardshark202 wrote: »

Nope, just a crazy person.

I didn't ask to be insulted. I asked for advice. If your not willing to add to the conversation, why insult? If your not willing to talk about the topic, why judge?

I just cannot stand this childishness and ignorance.:mad:

Just so you know, I'm not anyway perfect or normal, I haven't met one of those people yet.

hawkmoon269 · 16-04-2009 4:13am

Mysterious,

I don't really have a perspective to offer on dealing with these alien contacts or outside forces that you feel are trying to influence you, however I do expect that over the next few years, we will see a blossoming of creativity and innovation, particularly in 2011/12. A lot of things such as new media, nanotechnology, etc will come together and feed into this. To be specific, the 'recession' will prove to be a net positive in so far as people will go in for creative careers that otherwise would have been climbing the corporate ladder.

This may happen in phases that are not necessarily obvious at the time.

hiorta · 16-04-2009 9:16am

""This is the kind of universe we live in, We are enslaved on this planet. We have to pay to live on this planet. We have to pay, to surivive. We are at our mercy of lust, power, drugs, sex and alchohol. This is my issue. I can't take this anymore."" Mysterious.

A great many life forms do not like the current environment, often made worse by human inhumanity.
Like it or not, it is our situation for the moment - it too, will pass.

The choice seems to be; to struggle against it or learn tolerance and patience, gaining wisdom in the process. Very like the situation Nelson Mandela was thrown unjustly into.

Is it better to immerse ourselves in opposing the temporary unchangeable or to try to deepen ourselves for the, as yet, unknown tomorrow?

The universe is a vast place with room for all sorts of experiences, not all of them pleasant, although they can be more tolerable if we apply our minds to it.

mysterious · 16-04-2009 3:58pm

hiorta wrote: »

""This is the kind of universe we live in, We are enslaved on this planet. We have to pay to live on this planet. We have to pay, to surivive. We are at our mercy of lust, power, drugs, sex and alchohol. This is my issue. I can't take this anymore."" Mysterious.

A great many life forms do not like the current environment, often made worse by human inhumanity.
Like it or not, it is our situation for the moment - it too, will pass.

The choice seems to be; to struggle against it or learn tolerance and patience, gaining wisdom in the process. Very like the situation Nelson Mandela was thrown unjustly into.

Is it better to immerse ourselves in opposing the temporary unchangeable or to try to deepen ourselves for the, as yet, unknown tomorrow?

The universe is a vast place with room for all sorts of experiences, not all of them pleasant, although they can be more tolerable if we apply our minds to it.

I think whats happening, and I really believe this day has finally come.

All my life I've been waiting and not actually listening, seeing, senseing, and realising. As much as I thought I was, the more I realised the things I was not aware of.

The world is undergoing such change never witnessesd in history of mankind, a change so great the entire power system are already overwhelmed. Something never quite happened since the beginning of the first civilization on earth (recorded civilzation Sumerians) For the last 10,000 years we have been pointing to this, in all levels.

Everything that has moulded humanity, is the purpose of this wakening. The wars, the power, the destruction, the hate, the love, the joy, the fears, the accomplishments and all the challenges that direct our purpose.

I remember as young child, a deep profound moment happened. It was like a me looking down on me in this world. Knowing the the trauma, hurt and pain we all go through, knowing all the pain our families and siblings are experiencing as you just "arrive". You deep down know this is not the way. You deep down know this is not your ulitimate experience. You deep down know that your worth more. You deep down know that this is not all there is.

The reason why it affected me, was at the time I could not speak and been so young, and seen someone in my family in so much tears and so much pain, she could not do anything about it at that time. It just clicked something in me, That all the past, greed and suffering leads to now.

And all this HAS TO CHANGE. That is what thought me very young. The pain and depression we suffer, is something that we as a whole race have brought on ourselves. The intentions and actiosn of our ancestors is a direct result of the reality we are living today. The greed of someone, will affect an innocent person in every part of this planet. The thoughts and deisres of anyone person, conflicts or affects the thoughts and desires of another. So when I seen this person in so much pain, yet she didn't ask for it, yet she didn't do anything to deserve it, The tragedies in her life, gave her no time to think, no time to realise, no time to see. This one person, this person I am is experiencing the thoughts and creation of every person on this planet and every person that has ever walked it. This is pretty complex stuff here for the normal mind to understand. But I knew why the experience happened the way it did. I was fairly young with one very powerful intuition, nature could tell me what was "not going right" Nature was showing me signs in front of me, with a person in front of me, unable to get out of this pain.

Every form of corruption, hate, envy, and manipulation of others was created by us, you and everyone before you, and you. Because your not aware, you repeat this pattern. So your cot up in it. Innocent or not, aware or not.

This is why It affected me a great deal when I was in that moment very young. I just seen circles, many people, and much light, despite so much pain and and chaos within this world.

I dunnno if anyone will truly understand what I'm saying. But the point of this convo, is we NEED TO BE AWARE. IT'S OUR DUTY TO BE THE ONES TO CHANGE NOW. Everything in the past, must go. We have to stop writing the same stories in our history books. Finally this is the time, where it just might be the case.

mysterious · 16-04-2009 4:19pm

hiorta wrote: »

A great many life forms do not like the current environment, often made worse by human inhumanity.
Like it or not, it is our situation for the moment - it too, will pass.

I know, but it's difficult for me as what goes through me, afirms to me of what I must do here, it's incredibly stressful

And I'm going to use these words. How stupid, ignorant, narrow minded and closed we have become. The arrogance of our "leaders" is actually embarressing, they have this sexual desire to just keep taking more power, yet every form of power corrupts. Signs are everywhere. Symbols are everywhere, we still to this day fail to be aware of it. We still to this day fight each on this planet. We still to this day fight over oil and cannot share it.

It's like I'll show you an example of where we did change and where we can be a great ideal for humanity.

America a superpower, an infection.
Yet still has the capacity to change, yet still has the capacity to give far more than it takes. The elites of America once shown generosity, in helping Ireland with the peaceproccess. I will even say the Iluminati gave a billion dollars at one time to tie North south links (Clinton annonced this, but obviously he doesn't run the show) Now I can assure you as a human being, you will feel more gracious and happyier to give rather than to take.

Right now the world is in panick including myself. To have more money to survive. It dawned on me recently why do I need to worry to survive? Why does a superpower USA need to destroy Afghanistan, because they too are panicking as a superpower would, "to lose more power" afraid to lose more money.

We are afraid to lose power, money and a superficial reality that we keep on repeating and never suceed.

So we as a race continue to take and not give.

If you really want to look at this universe in simple terms.
Everything around you gives.
Everything in the cosmos gives
Everything in the universe was responsible for your creation.
Everything in the universe cannot live without you.
Everything in this solar system cannot survive without our sun and planets that we are connected too.
Everything....... It gives.

Energy gives. The sun gives, The moon gives. The earth grounds you, the air takes you, the fire give you inspiration, the water give you the emotions to experience.

Yet we TAKE..... and take, take TAKE take.
What happens the world goes into self destruction, as we disrespect MOTHER NATURE again, as we have been doing for the last 10,000 years.

SO im going to tell you that there is not one of us advanced as we like to think we are;)

The choice seems to be; to struggle against it or learn tolerance and patience, gaining wisdom in the process. Very like the situation Nelson Mandela was thrown unjustly into.

Yup I agree with that.

We don't do simple things like been stil for a moment and realise creation around us. Therefore we are not learning, we are chasing chaos.

Is it better to immerse ourselves in opposing the temporary unchangeable or to try to deepen ourselves for the, as yet, unknown tomorrow?

Well you can continue the temporary unchangable reality we currently live in. But for how long are you going to continue, you have to face your demons one day.

And yes that means facing that black hole.

The universe is a vast place with room for all sorts of experiences, not all of them pleasant, although they can be more tolerable if we apply our minds to it.

That is why we are dicussing.

Do you think this thread would of been dicussed about 2 years ago;)

mysterious · 21-04-2009 8:35pm

Okay, been a way for a while. Now I'm regaining alot of sense, since the break from this thread.

Bascially the energies I was experiencing and now aware of is, cosmic energy. This energy comes in all forms. It is something that I let overwhelm me

Since growing up I was aware of how creative I was, and what I could do. The entities have always been with me, I just recently got bogged down over letting other entities invade my arena.

Bascially My body has been affected, and I have to go some healing now, to regain my full senses again:)

But what I will say, what I experienced, was a aray of beings in this galaxy currently conflicting each other.

There is actually no real evil and good force. Each have their own roles, own ways, own agendas.

It's actually like earth, but since we have been visited by so many races and we are still child bearing to most races in terms of our advancement, we do not realise how ahead this galaxy is. But the beauty of earth. Despite been a prison and locked with fear, lies paradise and freedom too.

The polarisation on this planet is what amazes the races.

The polarisation, was just to unbearable for me to handle. It's both negative and positive. The bottom line point for me, is to accept both energies, as part of the human experience.

Thats all for today anyhow.:)

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maccored · 17-09-2020 3:07pm

mystic68749 wrote: »

Only when you believe that you have the power to manifest something can you actually achieve it.

you then need to act in order for things to work. you cant just imagine it and expect life to be great. two people could market the same product, for example, with both believing their product is greatest. The one that has the work put in behind it will have the best outcome though.

For the kind of manifestation you talk of to happen you need both belief in what you are doing plus the work to make it happen.

Within this reality, been affected by other entities.

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