Wokeism of the day Revised Mod Note in OP and threadbanned users

silverharp · 18-04-2023 9:41am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120489789#Comment_120489789

True, if they make a Genghis Khan film, I dont want it to star Colin Farrell and a bunch of other spud faced chancers.

kowloon · 20-04-2023 12:20am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120488616#Comment_120488616

It's actually a ripcord; It expands to its full size when the spring engages.

realitykeeper · 20-04-2023 12:23am

How can we fix it so that young people will be able to buy a house? Simple. Just increase property taxes for houses that were build prior to 2023 and exempt houses that get built from this point forward. Also, exempt first time buyers of pre 2023 houses from the property tax for at least 20 years, (provided they did not make the purchase before 2023).

If the tax on pre 2023 houses was high enough, it would have these effects:

1) It would create a real economic demand for new builds (over existing housing stock). Anyone who can afford a new house will buy one and sell their existing house which will be costing them too much to keep. This will make building new houses far more economically viable as they will fetch a higher price.

2) This increase in sales of existing houses will put serious downward pressure on the price of pre 2023 houses., making them more affordable.

3) It would correct the mistake the governments made in enriching and protecting property owners by re-inflating property prices which were trying to correct themselves in 2009. Re-inflating property prices has cost us all 200 billion euro in borrowed money since the crash of 2008. Natural justice dictates that 200 billion should be repaid by the people who benefitted from it and not by young people who were school children back in 2008. And by raising 200 billion (by taxing pre 2023 properties), the government could bring the national debt back to where it was in 2008, before they did their bank bailouts and market manipulations.

20-04-2023 12:23am

@BoxcarWilliam99 threadbanned

c.p.w.g.w · 20-04-2023 12:29am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120476316#Comment_120476316

If that was in Ireland it's even stranger...white folk account for 94.7% of the population...if it's about proportional representation then it should still have some white folk...also a few weeks back some empty-head 'journalist/blogger" was on the tonight show whining about politics not being inclusive enough and said Ireland doesn't have anyone of colour in the dail...a-hem Leo is of Indian decent

StevenToast · 20-04-2023 12:37am

Sky sports leading story this evening is some womens game a very small minority of people are interested in...

The champions league quarter finals where literally millions of people are far more interested in worldwide is pegged down a few rungs of the ladder to make way for this blatant shoehorning wokeism....

Fine, cover the womens game...no problem...but making it top billing tonight is taking the pìss.....

c.p.w.g.w · 20-04-2023 1:25am

BBC had one tonight's women's games... surely it would have made more sense to have it when there wasn't a champions league QF

Me_Grapes · 20-04-2023 1:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120497722#Comment_120497722

Yep

Number 1 billing on their website all evening....... not even in their top 10 most trending articles.

Strumms · 20-04-2023 1:58am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120497773#Comment_120497773

Attendance confirmed at 6,658…. Ballpark mid table league two attendance.

Attendance in Munich for the Munich vs City game was confirmed at 75,000 with millions watching on tv worldwide…

6658 people.. that interest is akin to the attendances at Grimsby Town …but ..

why not just have it Friday night…? I know, wanting to be ‘seen’ to be competing with men’s fixtures.

Cordell · 20-04-2023 9:48am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120497695#Comment_120497695

I think you posted in the wrong forum, and your communism is showing.

Killinator · 20-04-2023 10:44am

It's probably just as much about the fact that Sky don't have the rights to the Champions League but do to the WSL, hence pushing one over the other

MisterAnarchy · 20-04-2023 11:30am

Did someone mention Arsenal, Womens Football and Sky ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iy4U6mjt90A

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 11:43am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498455#Comment_120498455

It should be blatantly obvious to anyone with a shred of media literacy that this is the real reason, but that still doesn’t stop the denizens of boomers.ie from crying about “shoe horning wokeism.”

Let’s not forget that the people crying about Sky Sports’ exploiting their right to post headlines on their website as they please are exactly the same people who blubber about “freedom of speech” and “cancel culture” when anyone has a go at their own heroes. 🤣

Evade · 20-04-2023 12:04pm

I don't follow sport much but when did they drop "women's" when talking about womens' sports?

c.p.w.g.w · 20-04-2023 12:13pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498818#Comment_120498818

Seems to been done since last year

Cordell · 20-04-2023 12:22pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498723#Comment_120498723

About this boomer thing when used derogatory towards people who are virtually all gen X, what's the deal with it? How is it acceptable to misage a person? I know it started as a meme, it should have died as that, so don't give me that answer.

Evade · 20-04-2023 12:31pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498893#Comment_120498893

For some people there are no bad tactics only bad targets. They will claim to have a philosophy like be kind but only apply it to those that agree with their outlook and apply all sorts of -isms to the right targets, in their view. It's olympic gold medal level mental gymnastics.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 1:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498893#Comment_120498893

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TomTomTim · 20-04-2023 1:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498723#Comment_120498723

Let’s not forget that the people crying about Sky Sports’ exploiting their right to post headlines on their website as they please are exactly the same people who blubber about “freedom of speech” and “cancel culture” when anyone has a go at their own heroes. 🤣

News outlets having agendas isn't a free speech matter as you know, it's a matter of ethics. I know it's a dead concept in the modern world, but we once expected impartiality from the media.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 1:17pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499104#Comment_120499104

What on Earth are you talking about? There’s nothing “unethical” about Sky Sports putting a women’s football game result on their website.

TomTomTim · 20-04-2023 1:20pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499120#Comment_120499120

The news doesn't exist to promote things, bar the news, and putting female football front and centre when there's little general demand for it is certainly agenda driven.

NattyO · 20-04-2023 1:21pm

It is cringe-inducingly embarrassing to see/hear Irish people, especially Irish adults, use the term "boomer" - I understand they are using it because they don't know what it means, but still. It's the teenage/young adult equivalent of a combover.

Yeah_Right · 20-04-2023 1:26pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498455#Comment_120498455

Exactly. Sky are pushing what's on their channels. Like every other TV station in the world does. Now the fact that they scheduled the match at the same time as the CL quarter finals, to me that's a bit daft but I suppose they have to schedule something.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 1:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499127#Comment_120499127

Sky Sports isn’t “the news,” it’s sport reportage.

In publication terms imagine that if RTE News is the Irish Independent then Sky Sports is Match Magazine. It’s not beholden to the same editorial standards as a news publication.

Cordell · 20-04-2023 1:34pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499076#Comment_120499076

No man it's not like that, calling us boomers doesn't offend us, it's not like calling a fat person fat or Dylan a man, i.e. using the truth to inflict insult on people offended by the truth. I'm just wondering why, that's all.

Badly Drunk Boy · 20-04-2023 3:09pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499178#Comment_120499178

It's not just Sky Sports, though. Two years ago I was watching the Virgin Media news when the sports section started. The first sentence was that Spain had beaten Ireland in a shock win for them. I was thinking "Spain would probably be favourites in most sports against Ireland so why the shock?". In the second sentence, they mentioned that it was rugby. That made a bit more sense, even though I didn't know the Irish team was playing them. In the third line of the report, it was revealed that it was women's rugby. Okay, now I know what's going on.

Why not say "Spain have beaten the Ireland women's rugby team in a shock defeat for the Irish" and then continue with the details on the match? I realise that Virgin Media news isn't exactly the pinnacle of news (and sports) journalism, but they should be able to do better than that.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 3:29pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499756#Comment_120499756

Confusion on your part because you think hearing about any sport = men’s sport doesn’t really mean anything. That’s your own prejudice and just because it’s the status quo doesn’t mean it’s valid.

That actually goes for anyone else who flies into an apoplexy when they hear or read about women’s sport too.

Evade · 20-04-2023 4:03pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499834#Comment_120499834

That's because sport is defacto mens' sport, women aren't excluded from most sports they just can't compete with the men. Women's sports are explicitly for women, or were until very recently.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 20-04-2023 4:19pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499952#Comment_120499952

If you have a point I would love to hear what it is.

Evade · 20-04-2023 4:32pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120500000#Comment_120500000

That thinking sport=mens' sport or more accurately sports that will exclusively feature men isn't some grand display of misogyny or prejudice it's just reality for the vast majority of sports, and all of the really popular ones AFAIK. The exceptions that exist are usually when being smaller or lighter is one of the most significant factors in outcome, extreme long distance running (in the range of 200km+) for example. And as a result of the above dropping the "women's" from womens' sports is needlessly confusing. But then you did understand my point you just had to childishly pretend like I wasn't making one.

Badly Drunk Boy · 20-04-2023 4:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120499834#Comment_120499834

Firstly, more people want to hear about the Irish men's rugby team than the women's rugby team because they are more skilled, more successful and are better known to the general public. That's just a fact. Yes, there isn't the same investment in the women's game, but there's no point in pretending that they are the same. More men play sports than women, and more people are interested in watching men's sports (and that includes female sports fans).

Having noticed this way of reporting sport, I also remember one news report which started "Ireland's men's 7s rugby team...". Why suddenly say "men's" when it's a different version of rugby, but if it's women's...no need to mention it? No, there's no agenda...

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2023 9:01pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120498893#Comment_120498893

How is it acceptable to misage a person?

Cordell · 20-04-2023 10:15pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501185#Comment_120501185

Kind of both. It means the act of using the wrong age or generation when talking to or about someone. I'm gen X, calling me a boomer is misaging me.

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2023 10:24pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501629#Comment_120501629

Still unable to tell if you’re being serious, in the Wokeism thread, of all threads 😳

I get that you’re not bothered by being called boomer, gen x, y, z whatever, but… accusing someone of ‘misaging’? It’s weird 😂

Cordell · 20-04-2023 10:38pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501664#Comment_120501664

It is weird, isn't it? Not being able to tell if something is serious or not is the new normal. Dude masquerading as a girl gets invited to White House, surely it must be a joke, right? Right?

One eyed Jack · 20-04-2023 10:48pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120501719#Comment_120501719

Ohh THAT’s the Dylan you were referring to! I was wondering about that one alright seeing as Dylan is a name normally given to boys, though I’ve heard of girls called Dylan too.

Makes me want to stick a fork in my good eye tbh 🙄

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 21-04-2023 10:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120500048#Comment_120500048

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120500097#Comment_120500097

This discussion is simply about Sky Sports covering women’s sport on their website, it’s not relevant if men’s sport is more popular or more skilled than women’s sport.

The fact is that while women’s sport is not anywhere near as popular or skilled as men’s sport, there are professional women’s leagues that are growing in popularity and Sky Sports, having seen this growth in popularity, have made an editorial decision to cover these leagues in their sports coverage. That is their inalienable right as a publication, to insist otherwise is an infringement of their freedom of expression.

All of this moaning from confused gammons about professional sport being the reserve of men doesn’t mean anything except that it highlights their own outdated prejudices.

I know that this is very confusing to the middle aged denizens of boomers.ie but that is the reality. Women play sport and people have exactly the same right to follow it and post about it as men’s sport, even if any men’s team could beat any women’s team on the football/rugby pitch. This is what equality means.

jamieon · 21-04-2023 10:26am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058109483/wokeism-of-the-day-revised-mod-note-in-op-and-threadbanned-users

It's all the white heterosexual male's fault !!!!!!

Evade · 21-04-2023 10:54am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502716#Comment_120502716

My sincerest apologies oh great Arbiter of the Topic of Discussion. I had not realised you had dained the progression of the topic from Sky Sports' specific coverage to the general dropping of "women's" from the womens' sports coverage to be irrelevant.* We shall seek your approval before expanding the scope of discussion in future.

*Despite the fact you responded to exactly that and subsequent responses were about clearing up why sport = mens' sports in almost all cases.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 21-04-2023 11:03am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502835#Comment_120502835

You can get as uppity as you like but the fact remains that reportage on professional sport is not exclusive to men’s sport, nor is it exclusive to who happen to be the best or most popular at any time. Otherwise, just to use one example, the men’s English Football League (Championship level down) would not be covered at all.

Evade · 21-04-2023 11:15am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502870#Comment_120502870

Could you quote who is asking for it to exclusively cover mens' sport? Or exclusively popular sport as opposed to in order of popularity? I must have missed those posts.

CGI_Livia_Soprano · 21-04-2023 11:39am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120502910#Comment_120502910

Well one poster expressed dismay at women’s football being covered when the attendance of one particular game was similar to a men’s Grimsby Town game, another was crying over the “woke shoehorning” of covering the women’s game at all, and a third sobbed about the biased “agenda” Sky Sports have because they committed the cardinal sin of mentioning women’s football.

Reading between the lines here, it’s obvious that a certain bright pink demographic sincerely believe that sports coverage is exclusively for men, by men, about men.

Evade · 21-04-2023 11:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120503008#Comment_120503008

So no evidence then, besides the narrative you have created in your head.

Just to check since you seem to know so much about racism etc, are skin colour based slurs in vogue again? Or is this more bad targets not bad tactics?

AllForIt · 21-04-2023 12:08pm

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1649165180838846465

I'm sensing all is not as harmonious as we have been lead to to believe within the gay 'community' lol. Of course Owen Jones isn't in the slightest big obnoxious.

But isn't he's breaking a Lefty golden rule that you can't generalize about a demographic esp a minority one.

And yeah there's nothing woke about this I just can't resist an opportunity to show up Owen Jones. It's a love to hate him kinda thing with me.