SwiftSMS - Simply sending Beautiful Webtexts

Fluffy88 · 15-04-2014 10:35pm

PeteFalk78 wrote: »

I've tried both on data and wifi. 3 separate wireless networks in work and at home. The phone is working perfectly from a connection perspective and I've never had any previous issues with it.

I appreciate your help fluffy.

No problem at all :-)
I'm looking at getting something together that will log important stuff for me.
I got to test an S3 mini for a couple of minutes there and it has the same problem with Vodafone so we will try to get it sorted.

Sorry for the delays, I wish I had the finances to get more dev devices but for now we will have to rely on all of you

Thanks for the support and understanding!

Fluffy88 · 16-04-2014 5:10pm

I'm messing with getting a stock Samsung ROM loaded into the Android emulator so I can test and debug this problem locally.
Hasn't been going too well so far but apparently it can be done so I'll give it another go later.

Still no fix unfortunately :-(

BnB · 17-04-2014 9:06pm

Hi I wandered in here to look for something completely different but found this thread and loved the app. I just downloaded the App and it looks great and worked for me straight away. I have an SIII Mini on O2.

Anyway, my suggestion is... Would be possible to get it to get it working with groups.

I mostly use my O2 texts for sending messages to a few groups. (Junior Hurlers, 5 aside soccer & under 12 Camogie parents). It would be great if I could do that directly from my phone as I often have to send out a message at the last minute RE change of time or something like that and I can't always get to a PC.

I set up a group in the contacts on my phone. I opened the group and hit Menu->Send Message. Selected All Members. Hit Done...

I was then prompted if I wanted to use Messaging or SwiftSMS. So I selected SwiftSMS. It opened a blank SwiftSMS but didn't pull the contacts across into it.

However, even if you did get that working, there is a real pain in the butt thing in Android where you can only send a text to 10 people at a time, even if they are in a group. So you would possibly have to get around this too.

Anyway - Thanks for a great app and best of luck with it

Fluffy88 · 17-04-2014 9:19pm

Great suggestion!

We haven't implemented support in SwiftSMS for groups so it's just accidental that the app showed up in the group send message. We will be adding support for the use case you just described though :-) Not sure when but it'll get in there eventually.

Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it!

BnB · 18-04-2014 1:07pm

Thanks Fluffy. As I said, just be careful of using the built in groups in Android as even though you can add as many members as you want, you are limited to only texting 10 at a time. Which is a real pain it the a55. But I'm sure you'll find some way around that.

Fluffy88 · 22-04-2014 3:12pm

PeteFalk78 wrote: »

I've tried both on data and wifi. 3 separate wireless networks in work and at home. The phone is working perfectly from a connection perspective and I've never had any previous issues with it.

I appreciate your help fluffy.

Good news!
I got some development time on an S3 Mini so was able to find the problem with the Vodafone login problems.
We pushed out an updated today with a hopeful fix for it on Samsung devices.
If anyone else is still having problems with logging into a Vodafone account on any device let us know, thanks.

Seems Vodafone made some change on their side that broke the decompression of the HTML page in Android when we made a request for a GZipped page.

Thanks for reporting the problems :-)

jgbyr · 22-04-2014 3:16pm

Thanks for all the work on this. Is there any way to clear the recent contacts so it repopulates again?

Fluffy88 · 22-04-2014 3:18pm

How do you mean?
Every time you enter/open the app or send a message the recent list should get updated.

jgbyr · 22-04-2014 3:20pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

How do you mean?
Every time you enter/open the app or send a message the recent list should get updated.

Yes, but suppose you want to clear the recent list. To start afresh.

Fluffy88 · 22-04-2014 3:25pm

Delete all your messages?

The recent list is populated from your SMS database. So it reads the last 5 people in your "Conversations/Thread" view and displays them.

The logic behind that was it should more accurately represent the people you would want to text right now. For example if you get a text from a friend out of the blue, your most likely going to be entering SwiftSMS to text them back than to text another friend that you were texting last night or a week ago.

jgbyr · 22-04-2014 3:28pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

Delete all your messages?

The recent list is populated from your SMS database. So it reads the last 5 people in your "Conversations/Thread" view and displays them.

The logic behind that was it should more accurately represent the people you would want to text right now. For example if you get a text from a friend out of the blue, your most likely going to be entering SwiftSMS to text them back than to text another friend that you were texting last night or a week ago.

Ok, I understand now.
Thanks for the explanation.

Fluffy88 · 22-04-2014 3:29pm

No problem

We are open to suggestions though.
Is there something else you think would work better than this? Or what do you not like about it?

jgbyr · 22-04-2014 3:52pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

Is there something else you think would work better than this? Or what do you not like about it?

No its fine. Once you explained how it works, it's clearer now. Thanks.

dubecho · 22-04-2014 3:54pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

No problem

We are open to suggestions though.
Is there something else you think would work better than this? Or what do you not like about it?

I'd still like some way of changing the app theme, my preference is for dark/black themes, so on apps where one would select the black theme, I do, as opposed to the white.
Would be nice to have such a setting in SwiftSMS too. Just a choice between default white (with black font) or black (with white font).
I understand it is more of an aesthetic thing and possibly not all that important, but choice is always good.
Anyway keep up the good work, good to see how the app is evolving nicely : )

Fluffy88 · 22-04-2014 3:58pm

Changing themes is on the list of things to do so it will get done at some point.
For now, the reason we chose white initially was because that seems to be Googles preference at the minute, with Hangouts, GMail, Keep, Maps, etc... all in white only.

PeteFalk78 · 22-04-2014 7:09pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

Good news!
I got some development time on an S3 Mini so was able to find the problem with the Vodafone login problems.
We pushed out an updated today with a hopeful fix for it on Samsung devices.
If anyone else is still having problems with logging into a Vodafone account on any device let us know, thanks.

Seems Vodafone made some change on their side that broke the decompression of the HTML page in Android when we made a request for a GZipped page.

Thanks for reporting the problems :-)

Thanks fluffy, works perfectly now.

robtec · 22-04-2014 9:38pm

Three are having issues with certs on there website at the moment, this is affecting our service.

We will keep you guys posted

deiseliving · 22-04-2014 10:55pm

3 texts on Swift not working again! ? coming up in corner where number of messages left should be!

robtec · 22-04-2014 11:10pm

deiseliving wrote: »

3 texts on Swift not working again! ? coming up in corner where number of messages left should be!

Thanks deiseliving,

There seams to be an issue with there SSL certs, we cannot really bypass this as we do not want to compromise customer security.

I will investigate this more in the AM and post back!!

Rob

deiseliving · 23-04-2014 10:44pm

3 texts on Swift not working yet unfortunately!

robtec · 23-04-2014 10:49pm

Three webtexts still have the SSL issue, providing a work around is still to risky.

The thinking cap is on!

Rob

robtec · 24-04-2014 9:14pm

Three is back up

Rob

your desired user name · 28-04-2014 7:41pm

Just downloaded the app today. Seems very good. Thanks

henke · 30-04-2014 12:34am

Downloaded the app yesterday so far so good. Very impressed. Don't see the option for recent contacts though maybe I am missing you something?

Fluffy88 · 30-04-2014 7:58am

henke wrote: »

Downloaded the app yesterday so far so good. Very impressed. Don't see the option for recent contacts though maybe I am missing you something?

What phone are you using?
There is an issue with recent contacts on some devices. I tested a fix for Samsung yesterday so that will probably be released today.

madmoe · 30-04-2014 10:56am

Recent contacts working perfectly for me on my Nexus 5 and on my Nexus 10! Keep the updates and new features coming guys ;-)

henke · 30-04-2014 6:49pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

What phone are you using?
There is an issue with recent contacts on some devices. I tested a fix for Samsung yesterday so that will probably be released today.

Ok cheers that explains it. Using a GS4 mini. Wasn't something that bothered me just curious. Delighted with the app.

Fluffy88 · 30-04-2014 7:11pm

I've just published the fix for Samsung devices just now.
It should show up in the Play Store within the hour.

I have to say I've been loving the recent contacts myself, it's what I've been using 80% of the time now. I've no need to type out names anymore, it's great

henke · 30-04-2014 11:29pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

I've just published the fix for Samsung devices just now.
It should show up in the Play Store within the hour.

I have to say I've been loving the recent contacts myself, it's what I've been using 80% of the time now. I've no need to type out names anymore, it's great

Got the update there now from the Play store. Handy feature to have for sure

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Pacifico · 07-05-2014 4:37pm

CollyFowler wrote: »

Very nice application. Vodafone works nice and captcha is very quick compared to Cabbage. Will there be a Pro version that can make it the default messaging app e.g. incoming messages will go in there automatically?

Any update weather this might be an option?! Great app by the way!!

Fluffy88 · 08-05-2014 9:06am

No plans to make SwiftSMS a default messaging app, sorry.

It's not really necessary imo.

PeteFalk78 · 08-05-2014 9:51am

Fluffy88 wrote: »

No plans to make SwiftSMS a default messaging app, sorry.

It's not really necessary imo.

Well it really would be the logical next step. It's biggest drawback is that you are unable to keep track of SMS conversations given that incoming messages go to a different app.

jgbyr · 08-05-2014 9:54am

PeteFalk78 wrote: »

Well it really would be the logical next step. It's biggest drawback is that you are unable to keep track of SMS conversations given that incoming messages go to a different app.

But the sent messages are also stored in the default sms so you do have the full conversation.

PeteFalk78 · 08-05-2014 9:57am

jgbyr wrote: »

But the sent messages are also stored in the default sms so you do have the full conversation.

Oops very true I didn't notice that.

Fluffy88 · 08-05-2014 11:00am

I do know if we show the last few messages from your conversation it would be a great feature, I won't argue with that.

But having SwiftSMS be the main messaging adds a huge amount of management to the app, for example, displaying conversations, deleting messages, deleting conversations, showing message details, handling MMS, etc, etc, etc...
There would be a fairly large amount of work involved in getting SwiftSMS up to scratch as a default SMS app. A large amount of fairly boring features.

Whereas keeping it the way it is we can do almost all of what's wanted of a webtext app without having that extra unneeded stuff.

EDIT: Again, imo

magical marshmallow · 18-05-2014 1:24pm

Hey guys,

Just got SwiftSMS there. I am a potential Cabbage convert. My message didn't send however. I had problems with Cabbage not receiving the number of messages remaining and wonder if it's a similar thing? I am currently abroad, so perhaps that makes a difference

Cheers

SM01 · 18-05-2014 5:46pm

Similar position to magical marshmallow. Downloaded and tried to send from abroad (on o2) but no luck at all.

Fluffy88 · 18-05-2014 5:50pm

Hey guys,
I don't know but I assume O2 have a different webtext system for when you are abroad.
We will have to look into what's different and see about adding support to SwiftSMS for O2 when abroad.

For now though, I'm sorry it's not supported as we haven't run into this yet

Pure Loonamus · 21-05-2014 9:42am

You may take a holiday fluffy to sort this abroad issue

Love the recent contacts feature btw, nice addition..

Fluffy88 · 21-05-2014 9:44am

haha yeah, know anywhere nice??

magical marshmallow · 21-05-2014 9:55am

Basically the difference is that they require you to enter a verification code.
Making some reasonable assumptions: You login, it recognises a non-irish IP, asks to send you a unique code a message. You enter this and then you can send a message.
Simple - ish, unless you use webtexts because you have no signal in a basement and it renders the service useless

Hope this helps

PeteFalk78 · 21-05-2014 10:01am

Fluffy88 wrote: »

haha yeah, know anywhere nice??

Do you actually have to do the testing physically from the phone? If you can do it from PC/Mac then you could try a proxy/free VPN solution. You could mimic coming in from an address outside Ireland.

proxymesh.com
spotflux.com

Fluffy88 · 21-05-2014 11:10am

I generally do test using my phone, it's a lot faster than using the Android emulator.

Yeah using a VPN is the simplest way to test this, there is ways to configure phones to use VPNs or if that's too hard I can probably configure my router at home to use a VPN and just connect the phone to the WiFi.

Either way, thanks for the links, they'll come in handy

madmoe · 27-05-2014 3:57pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

I generally do test using my phone, it's a lot faster than using the Android emulator.

Yeah using a VPN is the simplest way to test this, there is ways to configure phones to use VPNs or if that's too hard I can probably configure my router at home to use a VPN and just connect the phone to the WiFi.

Either way, thanks for the links, they'll come in handy

I was in the UK on EE at the weekend and when I launched the app on WiFi or on mobile data it would not even load the amount of remaining web-texts I had left, let alone send one......

Cheers and keep up the good work guys!

Fluffy88 · 27-05-2014 4:11pm

Your on Tesco right?

They might have a roaming block on their webtexts aswell, you didn't try using the website while over there by any chance?

The Corinthian · 27-05-2014 4:28pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

They might have a roaming block on their webtexts aswell, you didn't try using the website while over there by any chance?

That makes absolutely no sense.

Fluffy88 · 27-05-2014 5:04pm

The Corinthian wrote: »

That makes absolutely no sense.

I'm not sure what you mean, could you elaborate?

The Corinthian · 27-05-2014 5:16pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

I'm not sure what you mean, could you elaborate?

If you send your SMS via a Web interface, they're sent from the same location regardless if you're accessing the site in Ireland or abroad. They may block international SMS, but that's got nothing to do with roaming.

Fluffy88 · 27-05-2014 5:32pm

If the operator decides they don't want their users sending free webtexts while the user is abroad, they can quite easily block access to their webtexts from foreign IPs.

The Corinthian · 27-05-2014 6:36pm

Fluffy88 wrote: »

If the operator decides they don't want their users sending free webtexts while the user is abroad, they can quite easily block access to their webtexts from foreign IPs.

I'm sure they could. Which ones do so?

SwiftSMS - Simply sending Beautiful Webtexts

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