Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread - Read Mod Warning in OP 7/1/15

Will I Amnt · 01-01-2015 4:53pm

I watched United v Everton in a bar in Lanzarote back in April with a gang of Everton fans. They delighted in telling me how Moyes was holding them back for years... I'd love to bump into them again.

Manutd_4life · 01-01-2015 4:55pm

southampton beating arsenal. so far so good

PhlegmyMoses · 01-01-2015 5:04pm

United fans have no high ground regarding Moyes. Some of our fans were having planes flown over the ground ffs.

kryogen · 01-01-2015 5:05pm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

United fans have no high ground regarding Moyes. Some of our fans were having planes flown over the ground ffs.

I personally have plenty of "high ground" over Moyes and am enjoying watching them go backwards this season after the way they carried on.

Will I Amnt · 01-01-2015 5:09pm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

United fans have no high ground regarding Moyes. Some of our fans were having planes flown over the ground ffs.

A few bellends don't speak for a whole fan base.

Nalz · 01-01-2015 5:15pm

homerjay2005 wrote: »

incorrect...He didn't "get rid" of Pique, Pique wanted first team football and we couldn't give it because Rio and Vidic were in the prime of their careers.

wasn't there even more than that, I'm pretty sure they fell out anyways, no?

Will I Amnt · 01-01-2015 5:15pm

Southampton doing their stuff anyway, 2-0 now.

01-01-2015 5:19pm

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Southampton doing their stuff anyway, 2-0 now.

Not sure if good or bad....

Unearthly · 01-01-2015 5:20pm

Atleast we are not the only ones to implode v Leicester

Hococop · 01-01-2015 5:20pm

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Not sure if good or bad....

Same would rather a draw

J. Marston · 01-01-2015 5:25pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Atleast we are not the only ones to implode v Leicester

You've jinxed it now.

Thepoet85 · 01-01-2015 5:35pm

I'm all for a Southampton win. Still think it will be between us and Arsenal for 3rd and 4th at the end of the year.

Unearthly · 01-01-2015 5:53pm

J. Marston wrote: »

You've jinxed it now.

No, i was jinxing the jinx

J. Marston · 01-01-2015 5:54pm

Unearthly wrote: »

Atleast we are not the only ones to implode v Leicester

I wholeheartedly apologise. Your reverse double jinx worked a treat.

Well played, sir!

Edit: Now, for some evening reading.

homerjay2005 · 01-01-2015 5:56pm

bit of a schlupp up there from Liverpool

decent day, makes our result alot more bareable now. a draw in the late game will do nicely please.

J. Marston · 01-01-2015 6:01pm

Would prefer Spurs to lose.

City and Chelsea are so far ahead of the other teams in the league, it's not even worth looking up.

advertsfox · 01-01-2015 6:06pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Would prefer Spurs to lose.

City and Chelsea are so far ahead of the other teams in the league, it's not even worth looking up.

Have to agree, esp. with us playing Southampton at home in 10 days time time.

Nice bit of distance even still compared to Arsenal (4) West Ham (5) and Spurs (6).

Oh and Liverpool (8)

PhlegmyMoses · 01-01-2015 6:07pm

Will I Amnt wrote: »

A few bellends don't speak for a whole fan base.

Precisely, so tarring the whole Everton fanbase with the same brush over a portion of their fans talking **** about Moyes is equally ridiculous.

Edit: To clarify, both United and Everton had sets of fans were guilty of deriding Moyes last year. For balance, I have a couple of mates that are Everton fans and they really loved Moyes and weren't sure about Martinez.

adox · 01-01-2015 6:07pm

J. Marston wrote: »

Would prefer Spurs to lose.

City and Chelsea are so far ahead of the other teams in the league, it's not even worth looking up.

True but I always like to see the leaders lose so the silly side of me is cheering for Spurs.

Will I Amnt · 01-01-2015 6:11pm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

Precisely, so tarring the whole Everton fanbase with the same brush over a portion of their fans talking **** about Moyes is equally ridiculous.

Didn't see anybody tar the whole Everton fan base with the one brush. Some said they were happy with their decline because of some of the stuff that was said. You said United fans can't take the high ground. I can, plenty of us can.

PhlegmyMoses · 01-01-2015 6:15pm

Will I Amnt wrote: »

Didn't see anybody tar the whole Everton fan base with the one brush. Some said they were happy with their decline because of some of the stuff that was said. You said United fans can't take the high ground. I can, plenty of us can.

I also can. But taking delight in a team's decline because of the behaviour of a portion of fans is weird. Many of our fans were dickheads towards Moyes also.

Basically: Team has portion of knobhead fans shocker

RichFTW · 01-01-2015 6:20pm

Will I Amnt wrote: »

I watched United v Everton in a bar in Lanzarote back in April with a gang of Everton fans. They delighted in telling me how Moyes was holding them back for years... I'd love to bump into them again.

Plenty of United fans in here were saying the same. Holding up Martinez as some sort of genius and pointing at the positive impact he had on Everton compared to Moyes in such a short space of time. Not sure if they actually believed it or just wanted another stick to beat Moyes with.

PhlegmyMoses · 01-01-2015 6:24pm

To change tack a bit, are Southampton genuine Top 4 rivals now? Everyone is saying that they are happy that Arsenal lost, but Southampton had a bit of a slump in early December and have bounced back.

If they're still there in a month, it's time to take them seriously.

Blatter · 01-01-2015 6:33pm

PhlegmyMoses wrote: »

To change tack a bit, are Southampton genuine Top 4 rivals now? Everyone is saying that they are happy that Arsenal lost, but Southampton had a bit of a slump in early December and have bounced back.

If they're still there in a month, it's time to take them seriously.

I would definitely take them seriously. They haven't been lucky, they are 4th on merit. They should have beat us, were unlucky to lose at the Emirates, should never have lost to Burnley, played very well at Anfield and lost etc. yet they're still in the CL spots. They're not in Europe so their squad shouldn't be stretched too much barring an extended injury crisis. It'll be vital they keep Schneiderlin in January though.

Robson99 · 01-01-2015 6:44pm

Back 3 and wing backs were very poor on the ball to day. Carrick was neither here nor there for the whole game. Would prefer to see him play in the back 3 when Blind gets back
Strange decision to see Falcao come off when he was playing much better than RVP. Would like to see Rooney get a chance up top with Falcao.
Janazui has really gone backwards. Cant even cross the ball let alone take his man on. Needs to go out on loan

edgecutter · 01-01-2015 6:47pm

Not a disastrous day by all means. We were very lucky today to get a point and we have to be happy that we didn't lose. Hopefully with shaw and raf back we will end this 3-5-2 nonsense.

Manutd_4life · 01-01-2015 6:52pm

edgecutter wrote: »

Not a disastrous day by all means. We were very lucky today to get a point and we have to be happy that we didn't lose. Hopefully with shaw and raf back we will end this 3-5-2 nonsense.

I hope your right. Seeing 2 of our cbs is bad but then when there's 3. I would love to go back to a diamond formation. I honestly think this is the best team we can put out with our current players:

De Gea
Rafael Jones Rojo Shaw

Carrick
Di Maria Rooney

Mata

RVP Falcao

Headshot · 01-01-2015 7:18pm

The PL is nuts this season

Manutd_4life · 01-01-2015 7:19pm

Headshot wrote: »

The PL is nuts this season

Tell me about it

01-01-2015 7:44pm

Still early days in the Chelsea-Spurs match, currently at 3-1 to Spurs, but if Chelsea drop even more points today it will make our recent draws vs Villa, Spurs and Stoke all the more frustrating.

Edit: Now 4-1 Spurs

Lithium93_ · 01-01-2015 7:44pm

It's 4-1 Spurs now

KH25 · 01-01-2015 7:47pm

Liking the look of Kane I must say.

01-01-2015 7:49pm

Unreal scorelines again today... These away results have not been that bad when you cconsider what happened on Stephens day and today. 4-2 in the chelsea match

MisterAnarchy · 01-01-2015 7:50pm

Hard to watch that Utd performance today ,it was extremely negative and conservative.
3 centre backs and Carrick in a deep role is just far too conservative ,the team created almost nothing in 90 minutes.
Begovic had nothing to do in the second half .

The standard of Utd's football away from home all season has been extremely poor .
They arent losing many matches but they are playing ugly football ,relying heavily on De Gea and riding their luck .

Crimson King · 01-01-2015 7:50pm

If they pull this back Jose will be unbearable in his post match interview

glued · 01-01-2015 7:51pm

Van Gaal needs to stop playing three at the back. It isn't working

KombuchaMshroom · 01-01-2015 8:00pm

All of a sudden our brutal defence has only conceeded 2 more than chelsea's rock solid back line.

Regarding the 3 at the back, hoping now that Rafael and Shaw are both back we will be reverting back to a normal 2 cbs and 2 fullbacks.

Seems now with Herrara and januzaj making comebacks today too we are just Di maria, Fellaini and Rojo short of our main squad players that you would be bothered about. 10 days to next league fixturw too so might be even better by then

RobertKK · 01-01-2015 8:11pm

One point closer to the top after today...need to score more goals, hopefully with Di maria to return it also means more goals to return.

Paul Tergat · 01-01-2015 8:14pm

match threads are just intolerable these days

edgecutter · 01-01-2015 8:16pm

We need to realise that these injuries have been the reason why we haven't won games like today. Once we can get our best 11 on we will go on a good winning run.

thelad95 · 01-01-2015 8:20pm

This has to be the strangest premier league season of all time. Something tells me City will run away with it if they can get their strikers fit.

Strumms · 01-01-2015 8:25pm

glued wrote: »

Van Gaal needs to stop playing three at the back. It isn't working

I agree, it's not hampering or defensive capabilities it's going forward and the overall shape of the team. We are trying to score by getting crosses into the box, over reliant on this tactic imho yet there is never any support for the wide man, no one overlapping and teams are doubling up on us and Stoke did that very well today as did Spurs.

I agree we also need to sort these injuries out, nobody including LVG knows his best side and we are already halfway into the season. We have gone on a good unbeaten run yet in the last 4 games dropped 6 points which isn't ideal.

eamondunphy · 01-01-2015 8:25pm

Paul Tergat wrote: »

match threads are just intolerable these days

And unfortunately they'll continue to be until supporters from other clubs stop being so petty and childish.

If United win a game 5-1(I know, wishful thinking), certain Liverpool fans will manage to turn the thread into about how United conceded a goal

kryogen · 01-01-2015 8:26pm

ZOMG Chelsea maybe are not the best team eva4life

adox · 01-01-2015 8:29pm

KombuchaMshroom wrote: »

All of a sudden our brutal defence has only conceeded 2 more than chelsea's rock solid back line.

Regarding the 3 at the back, hoping now that Rafael and Shaw are both back we will be reverting back to a normal 2 cbs and 2 fullbacks.

Seems now with Herrara and januzaj making comebacks today too we are just Di maria, Fellaini and Rojo short of our main squad players that you would be bothered about. 10 days to next league fixturw too so might be even better by then

Blind as well.

Tom.D.BJJ · 01-01-2015 8:30pm

eamondunphy wrote: »

And unfortunately they'll continue to be until supporters from other clubs stop being so petty and childish.

If United win a game 5-1(I know, wishful thinking), certain Liverpool fans will manage to turn the thread into about how United conceded a goal

In fairness the same happens the other way around. Tit for tat bull**** that really escalated to unbearable heights last year.

kryogen · 01-01-2015 8:32pm

The wing back system has clearly been down to his options, and then he seems to stick with something if it is getting results, he doesn't seem to like to change a winning formula so to speak but its clear that 4 at the back is the way he wants to play.

Some missed opportunities over this festive period all in all, could have closed the gap a hell of a lot more and gave us a bit of excitement for the second half of the season, as it stands I am happy to see Arsenal drop more points and keep a good distance between us and them. CL qualification is the aim, but the way the league is going shows that it could possibly have been more, maybe still can be more, if we go and do our job.

Dayum · 01-01-2015 8:35pm

United could be only 3 points off Chelsea and City tonight if they managed to actually beat Villa, Spurs and Stoke....

kryogen · 01-01-2015 8:36pm

*Would

Just kidding.

We are in so much of a better place today then we were 12 months ago, onwards and upwards in 2015

Quandary · 01-01-2015 8:40pm

Our draw against spurs at WHL is looking pretty good right about now

Today was disappointing but we're sitting 9 points off the top of the league with our big players on the way back from injury. I know some people might point out we should be closer to the top considering the games we threw away but we've also had a few fortunate results too (Arsenal, Southampton). If LVG can get our defenders more minutes on the pitch together we should see communication improving and less brain farts. All things considered, we are not in a bad place at all.

A win against Southampton at Old Trafford Sunday week is an absolute must for us. It will put us 6 points clear of them.

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