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If someone comes on your property without your permission are they breaking the law?

  • 17-02-2019 11:09pm
    #1
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭
    EMar Sounds


    Hi,

    Someone I know went to their kitchen and discovered 3 guys in their garden,
    They left themselves in by the side entrance and were looking around the property.

    When they were confronted they made up some bs that they were taking to
    one of the neighbors and were told they might need some work done.

    Not very professional at all, big mistake.

    They never talk to these neighbors so these guys were making it up.
    The same guys called to a few other homes on the same street, they all said they felt pressured and threatened by these guys.

    So I'd like to know have they broken the law by entering the property without anyone's permission on that property.
    When the law do nothing about it how should we deal with it, should we meet up with them, pretend we need some work done? see what they have to say.

    Their website is elitepavementandlandscaping.com


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  • #2
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    pictures of all their work is from the states, id wager theyre 'nomadic' folks scoping out for house robberies or doing some bad tarmac , make sure youve a monitored alarm and inform gardai they were being suspicious


  • #3
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Sounds wrote: »
    Hi,

    Someone I know went to their kitchen and discovered 3 guys in their garden,
    They left themselves in by the side entrance and were looking around the property.

    When they were confronted they made up some bs that they were taking to
    one of the neighbors and were told they might need some work done.

    Not very professional at all, big mistake.

    They never talk to these neighbors so these guys were making it up.
    The same guys called to a few other homes on the same street, they all said they felt pressured and threatened by these guys.

    So I'd like to know have they broken the law by entering the property without anyone's permission on that property.
    When the law do nothing about it how should we deal with it, should we meet up with them, pretend we need some work done? see what they have to say for themselves.

    Their website is elitepavementandlandscaping.com

    Cultural paving


  • #4
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    As far as I know the garda said they can't do anything about it, without proof lol
    Personally I know how I'd like to deal with them, but I don't want to go there.


  • #5
    fullstop
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,500 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    pictures of all their work is from the states, id wager theyre 'nomadic' folks scoping out for house robberies or doing some bad tarmac , make sure youve a monitored alarm and inform gardai they were being suspicious

    Presumably this thread is based around events in the states as well, given that they spoke to the neighbor.


  • #6
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,467 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    100% that site is lifted directly from a template using US imagery..

    Given that the site is so obviously a scam I'd not be happy to have had those fellas kicking about


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  • #7
    Hedgelayer
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    Sounds really dodgy to me.
    Are they Irish ?


  • #8
    Homer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,330 ✭✭✭Homer


    Sounds wrote: »
    Hi,


    When the law do nothing about it how should we deal with it, should we meet up with them, pretend we need some work done? see what they have to say for themselves.

    Their website is elitepavementandlandscaping.com

    Mod deletion - Politically incorrect language


  • #9
    aaakev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Phone number brings up this site too https://olearypavingandlandscaping.com/contacts/


  • #10
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    They're handing out flyers, that's how I got their website and fb page and numbers.
    We'll let the law know what's going on, although I feel I want to meet these pricks.


  • #11
    refusetolose
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,559 ✭✭✭refusetolose


    pavingpavees.com


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  • #12
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    aaakev wrote: »
    Phone number brings up this site too https://olearypavingandlandscaping.com/contacts/

    sounds like one of them robbed a computer and figured out the aul internet , few ropey paving and landscaping sites, be grand.


  • #13
    Hedgelayer
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    My old man was brilliant with these kind of people.
    He worked in the department of justice, so could speak their language.
    They're very much afraid of settled people who are able for them.
    Because we are definitely different.

    Always tell them you can be a bigger kn@¢{=® than them if they kick off....


  • #14
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    Strength in numbers yea know what you mean, thinking the same thing, I can arrange that.

    We don't need these kind of creatures near our homes, going around conning people.
    They're so unsuccessful at being human beings, all they know is a life of theft.
    Scum of the earth, the best way to deal with them is make them disappear.

    What happens when they let themselves into someone's home and they can't get them out,
    They will keep you talking while the others rob your home.

    So what do we do, wait for the law to get their thumbs out of their butts or do something about it?

    Sorry this makes me angry.


  • #15
    aaakev
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,088 ✭✭✭aaakev


    Sounds wrote: »
    South east yes. I didn't think of searching the imagery but thanks for the info.
    They're handing out flyers that's how I got their website and fb page.
    We'll let the law know what's going on, although I feel I want to meet these pricks.
    Replying to before you edited, if your confident you can handle it go for it


  • #16
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    I'm confident in the people I know, but I don't want to go there.
    Home security is a good start but that won't stop them entering people's property.


  • #17
    VeeEmmy
    Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭VeeEmmy


    I live outside of, but near, their "coverage area," in a remote rural area. They came to my house and one banged on the back door like they were making a drug bust. Scared the bejaysus out of me. I was not friendly. They then proceded across the road to my elderly neighbours' house.
    I thought I had saved their "slick" (not) tri-fold promo to share, but apparently it made its way to where it really belonged.
    I've considered a No Trespassing sign, but....
    Maybe an ill-tempered Alsatian....


  • #18
    doolox
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,350 ✭✭✭doolox


    ....and a parrot who keeps reciting "Jesus is watching you" until the intruder turns on the lights and sees ......"Jesus"


  • #19
    dartboardio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,436 ✭✭✭dartboardio


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    My old man was brilliant with these kind of people.
    He worked in the department of justice, so could speak their language.
    They're very much afraid of settled people who are able for them.
    Because we are definitely different.

    Always tell them you can be a bigger kn@¢{=® than them if they kick off....

    No doubt about it. Probably cause people with common sense or a decent amount of intelligence scare them! Hah


  • #20
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    You were brave, but you know this is not the first time it happened these people, many people in many areas.
    Another evening 3 foreigners knocked on the front door, while the homeowner was trying to get them to leave
    one of them was already upstairs behind their back, I swear to god if that happens me, won't matter how many.
    They will be invited in, sorry for my anger but these kind of pricks deserve more than our good law force can offer.


  • #21
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    Doolox what's the good lord going to do when these inhuman pricks rob people's homes? give it a rest.


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  • #22
    mynamejeff
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    aaakev wrote: »
    Phone number brings up this site too https://olearypavingandlandscaping.com/contacts/

    lol I know this guy
    meet his 17 year old son driving a brand new van with a mini digger on the trailer

    last i heard was

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-caught-with-12k-in-cash-by-cab-was-homeless-829267.html


    not going to post his name here but it aint o leary


  • #23
    Hedgelayer
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    Why don't we all start phoning their number's, make up addresses and have them like bunny rabbit s in headlights, running all over the country lol


  • #24
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,280 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    Why don't we all start phoning their number's, make up addresses and have them like bunny rabbit s in headlights, running all over the country lol

    Just make sure the actual address doesnt exist or else about 10 randomers wont have any copper pipe or wire left in the walls


  • #25
    Hedgelayer
    Registered Users Posts: 530 ✭✭✭Hedgelayer


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    Just make sure the actual address doesnt exist or else about 10 randomers wont have any copper pipe or wire left in the walls

    Send them to mutton Island or something


  • #26
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    mynamejeff wrote: »

    lol I know this guy

    meet his 17 year old son driving a brand new van with a mini digger on the trailer

    last i heard was

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/man-caught-with-12k-in-cash-by-cab-was-homeless-829267.html

    Gotta love the line in that report which reads that he "had spent some time in the UK and Germany where he was suspected of being involved in tarmacking." :) I hadn't realised that tarmacking is now a crime!


  • #27
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Sounds wrote: »
    Their website is elitepavementandlandscaping.com
    Had a look at their gallery. The pictures are not from Ireland.
    Hedgelayer wrote: »
    Are they Irish ?
    Yes & no. At the same time.
    Banished-She wrote: »
    Maybe an ill-tempered Alsatian....
    They'll either poison the dog, or steal the dog.
    Banished-She wrote: »
    I've considered a No Trespassing sign, but....
    51GrVb0czlL._SX425_.jpg


  • #28
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    I guess it is if you do a ****e job, they are out to rip people off, rob their homes and whatever else low lifes do for a living.


  • #29
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    No matter how serious something is on here, it always seems we have a laugh off it.
    But really they are scum of the earth and the more people know about them the better.
    What I don't understand is the mentality of someone to just access someone's property
    without their permission and then make up a bs story like it's ok it doesn't matter to them.
    And then hand them a flyer, do they think people haven't discovered the net or nobody would track them.


  • #30
    spurious
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Education Moderators Posts: 27,267 CMod ✭✭✭✭spurious


    The folk who 'designed' the website presumably knew the photos were fake.

    Like greedy bustard solicitors who facilitate fake claims, these guys should be called out on it.


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  • #31
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    The only work they'll be doing will be the houses they persuaded or tormented into getting work done, sad.
    A friend told me about a woman near dublin city who was talked into buying several generators, out of fear most likely.
    They deserve what they have coming.


  • #32
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    Sounds wrote: »

    a friend told me last night about a woman near dublin city who was talked into buying several generators, wtf.

    I wonder is that an evolving urban legend based on this recent true story from West Cork?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/elderly-woman-pressured-by-suspects-to-buy-12-chainsaws-11-generators-and-7-power-washers-901030.html


  • #33
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    Simple_Simone wrote: »
    I wonder is that an evolving urban legend based on this recent true story from West Cork?

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/elderly-woman-pressured-by-suspects-to-buy-12-chainsaws-11-generators-and-7-power-washers-901030.html

    Yes sorry, that's the actual story I was referring to, chainsaws not generators!
    These creatures are incabable of earning a decent living by playing fair,
    Even if they could do a good job, their instint is to rob, take advantage innocent folks.


  • #34
    Simple_Simone
    Closed Accounts Posts: 152 ✭✭Simple_Simone


    Sounds wrote: »

    Yes sorry, that's the actual story I was referring to, chainsaws not generators!

    Not just chainsaws, there were 11 generators in there too! ;)


  • #35
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    BTW, they are Irish and have done some work in the same area, which wasn't completed properly.
    Their work was checked by qualified construction workers afterwards, the neighbors actually got together about the incidents.
    I don't know what the law are doing but they are aware of it, hope this info is of some use, I know it's happening all over the country.
    Why not do a good job and improve your business status instead of being a total failure at something you could make a business out of.
    Ah I guess it's not in their nature, they couldn't even register a .ie


  • #36
    the_syco
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,305 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Sounds wrote: »
    Why not do a good job and improve your business status instead of being a total failure at something you could make a business out of.
    Why not? Profit.


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  • #37
    nuac
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,769 ✭✭✭nuac


    Mod
    Closed for mod review


  • #38
    Sounds
    Registered Users Posts: 395 ✭✭Sounds
    EMar Sounds


    the_syco wrote: »
    Why not? Profit.

    I know right, but going around doing crap work is bad for business, as these guys will find out soon.
    It's another thing going around your own country in groups with the intention of exploiting innocent people, that's against the law.


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