Winter 2011/2012

MUSEIST · 28-11-2011 3:07am

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Believe me none of you would love a "1947" type event. I lived in one for much of my teenage years. Right up in northern Minnesota where severe lake effect snow regularly occurred. It's great craic initially. But not cool when your electricity is gone and then only comes back sporadically. Also having to get up 2 hours earlier than normal to try clear your drive way in what seemed like a pointless effort as the snow falling was more than you're shoveling. It gets very old very quick.

I still love snow but if this country had 4 months of constant snow i reckon even the biggest enthusiast would grow tired.

sorry but no:cool:

El Horseboxo · 28-11-2011 4:04am

MUSEIST wrote: »

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Believe me none of you would love a "1947" type event. I lived in one for much of my teenage years. Right up in northern Minnesota where severe lake effect snow regularly occurred. It's great craic initially. But not cool when your electricity is gone and then only comes back sporadically. Also having to get up 2 hours earlier than normal to try clear your drive way in what seemed like a pointless effort as the snow falling was more than you're shoveling. It gets very old very quick.

I still love snow but if this country had 4 months of constant snow i reckon even the biggest enthusiast would grow tired.

sorry but no:cool:

Have you ever lived in snow and freezing conditions for 4 months and had to go to school/college/work and experienced all the damage, hardship and diminished living situation?

If not it's really difficult to say you'd love it based on your experience of Irish winters. Of course there are people that love those climates. But they are usually people who have lived in them for years. Up at 4.30am to scrape your car and shovel your driveway and then crawl along in low visibility on snowy roads can erode the fun of snow greatly.

alfalad · 28-11-2011 7:03am

vetstu wrote: »

My grandfather is saying that it was warm in the run up to the snow in 47. Keeps saying there is snow in the air this week. He was 23 then so remembers it well. Says there was snow to Paddys Day. Hope to God he's wrong

When talking about cold weather my father often talks about that winter, there was a field that he wanted to plough early but couldn't get in till patricks day.

Wild Bill · 28-11-2011 8:50am

Min wrote: »

I see some want a 1947 event, that lasted from January and there was still snow in the ditches in May.
On Today Fm, they said the highest drift was 50ft high, people were snowed in and couldn't get of out of their homes as snowed drifted and blocked windows and doors.
It killed upto 400 people, and thousands of livestock died.

.......

So no, lets hope we never see a 1947 type winter in Ireland. It is the last thing we want to see for this coming winter.

Come on!

A 1995 or 1976 style Summer could cause many more deaths through increased skin cancer and heat induced mortality - I've never read anyone moralistically condemning the annual hopes for a cloudless summer of endless sunshine.

Spoilsport? - you called it!

Bring on 1947...on steroids! :cool:

(And then a scorching Summer)

Min · 28-11-2011 10:03am

Wild Bill wrote: »

Come on!

A 1995 or 1976 style Summer could cause many more deaths through increased skin cancer and heat induced mortality - I've never read anyone moralistically condemning the annual hopes for a cloudless summer of endless sunshine.

Spoilsport? - you called it!

Bring on 1947...on steroids! :cool:

(And then a scorching Summer)

I would hate a long hot summer, we do not need drought conditions and water restrictions either from reservoirs and springs going dry.

As already said, a 1947 winter would mean no electricity for a lot of people.

Caff Caff · 28-11-2011 10:18am

http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=394&c=5

so Piers had originally said exceptionally cold from 27th of Nov but believes a large scar like ridge on the sun caused an upset so he has now pushed it forward to state that a cold blast will now hit on the 29th... He says that he will update tomorrow at 12noon. *sigh* Keeping fingers and toes crossed. This yoyo weather although predominantly mild, it's driving me scatty! The models are showing a cold trend...but will it be cold enough? Woe is the waiting game!

:cool:

WolfeIRE · 28-11-2011 11:04am

Caff Caff wrote: »

http://www.weatheraction.com/displayarticle.asp?a=394&c=5

"WeatherAction are the forecasters who go where others cannot reach! WATCH Standard Met - and the rest - slither and slide as scientifically predicted Solar-lunar-magnetic action give us weather they said wouldn't happen!"

:rolleyes:

StormGazer.11 · 28-11-2011 11:30am

Hello everyone, I'm pretty new to the whole weather game but this thread makes for some very interesting reading..

The mild conditions are getting pretty boring at this stage... I'm hoping for some snow, not even anything like the huge drifts mentioned from '47 (I think it was) a nice dusting would do at this stage and some crisp and frosty mornings would be nice.

Even if we have to wait until around the start of the new year and up to mid January like MT said it wouldn't be so bad, once we see some form of sneachta before the winters finished, BRING ON THE WHITE STUFF!!

Deep Easterly · 28-11-2011 12:55pm

ECMWF ensemble mean run keeps its zonal right into December:

Seasonal really with some cooler spells between the milder ones.

Speculatores · 28-11-2011 1:29pm

Hi Guys, been following this board for a while now & got to say starting to get slightly addicted! Whether that's to do with my unbelievable desire to see some decent snow this year I don't know? But my question is whether the south-east corner if the England is going to see anything like the snow we saw last year? Please, oh pretty please....

homersimpson · 28-11-2011 2:00pm

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/11/28/snow-on-the-way-to-donegal-this-week/

faktisperminute · 28-11-2011 2:05pm

the gfs charts show snow chance for the whole country in 36 hours from now

Newtown90 · 28-11-2011 2:07pm

Great to see a bit of hope with the cold spell coming (it better come :P )

Hopefully we might be even able to put of a hat and scarf in the morning!

Sick of this unseasonable weather this Winter, roll on the cold temps!

P.S. would be very excited if i were in Donegal http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/11/28/snow-on-the-way-to-donegal-this-week/

Su Campu · 28-11-2011 2:26pm

homersimpson wrote: »

http://www.donegaldaily.com/2011/11/28/snow-on-the-way-to-donegal-this-week/

I moved that post to this one as there's certainly no point in starting another thread, especially when the quote is the Donegal Daily!!!

Tom Cruises Left Nut · 28-11-2011 2:36pm

Su Campu wrote: »

I moved that post to this one as there's certainly no point in starting another thread, especially when the quote is the Donegal Daily!!!

A fine upstanding publication ! :pac:

shedweller · 28-11-2011 4:54pm

Probably covered here already but if not, here is a link to an arctic oscillation site in NOAA:http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index.html
Thats the highest its been in a wee while. Not conducive to snow at all!

weathermaiden · 28-11-2011 4:59pm

Just throwing this out there, make of it what you will.

Himself has an uncanny ability to predict events based on "gut feeling"... and for about 3 weeks he has been saying not to worry about winter sucking, because it will all change and get good on the 11th of December. (Good = I'm a snow lover)

Make of that what you will, it is based on nothing but "gut feeling" and no science whatsoever. I'll be curious to see how it plays out given his kind of strangely accurate predictions about life in general. Probably as valid as half of the long-range forecasts out there! (With no offense to lrf's out there!) :rolleyes:

Rougies · 28-11-2011 5:27pm

weathermaiden wrote: »

Just throwing this out there, make of it what you will.

Himself has an uncanny ability to predict events based on "gut feeling"... and for about 3 weeks he has been saying not to worry about winter sucking, because it will all change and get good on the 11th of December. (Good = I'm a snow lover)

Make of that what you will, it is based on nothing but "gut feeling" and no science whatsoever. I'll be curious to see how it plays out given his kind of strangely accurate predictions about life in general. Probably as valid as half of the long-range forecasts out there! (With no offense to lrf's out there!) :rolleyes:

Bring him to Vegas, win loads of cash, buy a big mansion somewhere with a cold snowy winter climate.

bb1234567 · 28-11-2011 5:30pm

El Horseboxo wrote: »

Believe me none of you would love a "1947" type event. I lived in one for much of my teenage years. Right up in northern Minnesota where severe lake effect snow regularly occurred. It's great craic initially. But not cool when your electricity is gone and then only comes back sporadically. Also having to get up 2 hours earlier than normal to try clear your drive way in what seemed like a pointless effort as the snow falling was more than you're shoveling. It gets very old very quick.

I still love snow but if this country had 4 months of constant snow i reckon even the biggest enthusiast would grow tired.

i guarantee you i wouldnt grow tired of it, but i still wouldnt wish for a 1947 event because of all the hardship it caused the country when it happened.

weathermaiden · 28-11-2011 5:41pm

Rougies wrote: »

Bring him to Vegas, win loads of cash, buy a big mansion somewhere with a cold snowy winter climate.

See, the one problem with that is, he can only predict money-related stuff like lotto numbers moments before it's called. Like if we're watching the lotto numbers being called, he will get 4 of them right but if we try to do it the day before, we might get 1. It's the Kryptonite.

Plus, I am so UNlucky with that stuff, we would end up breaking even anyway. :cool:

Rougies · 28-11-2011 5:56pm

weathermaiden wrote: »

See, the one problem with that is, he can only predict money-related stuff like lotto numbers moments before it's called. Like if we're watching the lotto numbers being called, he will get 4 of them right but if we try to do it the day before, we might get 1. It's the Kryptonite.

Plus, I am so UNlucky with that stuff, we would end up breaking even anyway. :cool:

Kippure · 28-11-2011 6:02pm

weathermaiden wrote: »

Just throwing this out there, make of it what you will.

Himself has an uncanny ability to predict events based on "gut feeling"... and for about 3 weeks he has been saying not to worry about winter sucking, because it will all change and get good on the 11th of December. (Good = I'm a snow lover)

Make of that what you will, it is based on nothing but "gut feeling" and no science whatsoever. I'll be curious to see how it plays out given his kind of strangely accurate predictions about life in general. Probably as valid as half of the long-range forecasts out there! (With no offense to lrf's out there!) :rolleyes:

The stomach is made up of the same cells that make up the brain. Hence 99.999% gut feelings are always right.

mcriot29 · 28-11-2011 6:02pm

shedweller wrote: »

Probably covered here already but if not, here is a link to an arctic oscillation site in NOAA:http://www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov/products/precip/CWlink/daily_ao_index/ao_index.html
Thats the highest its been in a wee while. Not conducive to snow at all!

It could break records being so high it a plus 4 iv not seen it this high in years itgoing to cause some very cold air at the pole
Question is what happens if it dips low and the cold air moves down south
I think colder air then last year of course the ao nao may not dip

WolfeIRE · 28-11-2011 6:10pm

Kippure wrote: »

The stomach is made up of the same cells that make up the brain. Hence 99.999% gut feelings are always right.

That's the last time I eat Haggis so!

A.Partridge · 28-11-2011 6:11pm

Apologies if this has been posted before....

The Great Blizzard of 1947 in Boyle, Co Roscommon

http://homepage.eircom.net/~greenst/blizzardof47.html

pistolpetes11 · 28-11-2011 6:35pm

The AO is showing no signs at the moment of going Negative , hopefully its starts to show over the next few runs

ff9999 · 28-11-2011 6:39pm

For us simpler folk with little knowledge of charts or trends

ARE THINGS LOOKING POSITIVE FOR SNOW-LOVERS AT LAST?

pistolpetes11 · 28-11-2011 6:42pm

ff9999 wrote: »

For us simpler folk with little knowledge of charts or trends

ARE THINGS LOOKING POSITIVE FOR SNOW-LOVERS AT LAST?

Not great at the moment , but a cooling seems to be on the horizon , just seasonal cooling mind you nothing exceptional,

That chart posted above if things start to go negative it would greatly increase our chances .

I am looking at the mid month for something to really start happen as MT eluded to.

Wild Bill · 28-11-2011 7:43pm

A.Partridge wrote: »

Apologies if this has been posted before....

The Great Blizzard of 1947 in Boyle, Co Roscommon

http://homepage.eircom.net/~greenst/blizzardof47.html

Well worth a read - especially for those who see a '47 blizzard as a negative.
Great piece.

TheMilkyPirate · 28-11-2011 7:58pm

Did MT give an update in the last few days? I think i missed it.

Redsunset · 28-11-2011 8:02pm

A.Partridge wrote: »

Apologies if this has been posted before....

The Great Blizzard of 1947 in Boyle, Co Roscommon

http://homepage.eircom.net/~greenst/blizzardof47.html

Here's the 47 blizzard

Mitch Buchannon · 28-11-2011 8:21pm

Sitting down to the computer in work and Im checking the forecast for tomorrows operation and Im get this.... Yay...

:):D

SA 281900 S 19015KT 9999 -RA FEW012 BKN018 BKN040 13/11 Q1004 NOSIG

FC no data available

FT VALID FOR ETD/ ETA
FT 281700 S 2818/2918 17017G27KT 9999 SCT020 BKN030
BECMG 2819/2821 19018G28KT -RADZ BKN010 BKN016
TEMPO 2821/2910 4000 RA BKN008
BECMG 2910/2912 27018G28KT BKN020
TEMPO 2912/2918 SHRASN SCT020CB

lord lucan · 28-11-2011 8:30pm

Figure that some of the snow bunnies here who are rocking an Android phone might appreciate this new Live Wallpaper.:)

https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.gonorovsky.kv.livewall.snowmood#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwicnUuZ29ub3JvdnNreS5rdi5saXZld2FsbC5zbm93bW9vZCJd

esposito · 28-11-2011 8:34pm

lord lucan wrote: »

Figure that some of the snow bunnies here who are rocking an Android phone might appreciate this new Live Wallpaper.:)

https://market.android.com/details?id=ru.gonorovsky.kv.livewall.snowmood#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDIxMiwicnUuZ29ub3JvdnNreS5rdi5saXZld2FsbC5zbm93bW9vZCJd

I wonder is there one for the iPhone?

El Horseboxo · 28-11-2011 8:39pm

bb1234567 wrote: »

i guarantee you i wouldnt grow tired of it, but i still wouldnt wish for a 1947 event because of all the hardship it caused the country when it happened.

Thing is you can't if you've never experienced it. You can't guarantee you'll like something if you've never had to endure the hardships it caused. I love storms but living in Kansas wrecked my head eventually due to the constant need to react to even the slightest possibility of tornadoes. When your quality of life gets affected you begin to see things a little differently. Same way i still love snow. But after Christmas i always wished it would ease up. Come the following November i'd be dying for it. But you get tired of it when it enters the 4th month and you're still getting up 4 hours before your work or school start time. It's why snow birds exist.

joes girls · 28-11-2011 8:48pm

lord lucan wrote: »

Figure that some of the snow bunnies here who are rocking an Android phone might appreciate this new Live Wallpaper.:)

Ah, my phone is snowing:D

Madpaddy79 · 28-11-2011 9:05pm

Mitch Buchannon wrote: »

Sitting down to the computer in work and Im checking the forecast for tomorrows operation and Im get this.... Yay... :):D

SA 281900 S 19015KT 9999 -RA FEW012 BKN018 BKN040 13/11 Q1004 NOSIG

FC no data available

FT VALID FOR ETD/ ETA
FT 281700 S 2818/2918 17017G27KT 9999 SCT020 BKN030
BECMG 2819/2821 19018G28KT -RADZ BKN010 BKN016
TEMPO 2821/2910 4000 RA BKN008
BECMG 2910/2912 27018G28KT BKN020
TEMPO 2912/2918 SHRASN SCT020CB

Now if only the nice people in the aviation met office in snn would only put the forecast temps on the tafs!!

Su Campu · 28-11-2011 9:48pm

Tomorrow I reckon the snowline will be down to around 300 metres in any showers through most of Ireland after the front passes, that's tomorrow afternoon in the west and tomorrow evening in the east. In the far south it should be around 400-500 m. Enough for some sleet at low levels before some warmer air pushes in again later in the night.

A similar picture again Thursday, then milder air again later Friday.

pauldry · 28-11-2011 9:56pm

was just noticing that Su.

looks as if there will be a few of these borderline episodes in December.

Still if you live on the mountains happy days

weathermaiden · 28-11-2011 10:52pm

:D:D:D:D:D:D

only one · 28-11-2011 11:03pm

weathermaiden wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D:D

Boooooooo! From all in the south east

Musicman2000 · 28-11-2011 11:14pm

weathermaiden wrote: »

:D:D:D:D:D:D

That would be hail

Pangea · 28-11-2011 11:38pm

Has anyone here put on the snow tyres yet.

wing52 · 28-11-2011 11:53pm

Pangea wrote: »

Has anyone here put on the snow tyres yet.

Yup!

4 petlas w6510's.

Fairly soft sidewalls,so taking the corners a good bit easier:)

Good deep tread so puddles and standing water is no drama.

Well worth it.

Villain · 29-11-2011 12:02am

Most Snow Tyres perform best from under 8c, above that and your going to wear them quickly.

FYI: http://www.nratraffic.ie/weather/default.asp?regionid=0

mcriot29 · 29-11-2011 12:04am

pistolpetes11 wrote: »

The AO is showing no signs at the moment of going Negative , hopefully its starts to show over the next few runs

Hi pistol i have just got a email from peirs corbyn weatheraction i asked him how can there be strong cold when the Ao is so high heres what he sent me back dont make anysense to me
John I was informed to day that the AO had gone quickly negative
Thanks
Piers

Su Campu · 29-11-2011 12:08am

mcriot29 wrote: »

Hi pistol i have just got a email from peirs corbyn weatheraction i asked him how can there be strong cold when the Ao is so high heres what he sent me back dont make anysense to me
John I was informed to day that the AO had gone quickly negative
Thanks
Piers

What a chancer! Who told him that, the Tooth Fairy? And does he not check these things himself?

Pangea · 29-11-2011 12:27am

wing52 wrote: »

Yup!

4 petlas w6510's.

Fairly soft sidewalls,so taking the corners a good bit easier:)

Good deep tread so puddles and standing water is no drama.

Well worth it.

Thanks. I might put on mine soon.

Hopefully temperatures wont be above 8C too often over the winter.
Its given 4C for Northern areas tomorrow.
Even if there isnt much snow the tyres will be good for grip in the frost etc.

davidsr20 · 29-11-2011 12:31am

Pangea wrote: »

Thanks. I might put on mine soon.

Hopefully temperatures wont be above 8C too often over the winter.
Its given 4C for Northern areas tomorrow.
Even if there isnt much snow the tyres will be good for grip in the frost etc.

There not really ment for the frost,in dry weather they wear fast too,I think everyone jumped on the band wagon this year,did people really think we would get the same as last year lol , didn't they buy 3 times as much salt this year too! Maybe they drink a lot off tea

pistolpetes11 · 29-11-2011 12:36am

mcriot29 wrote: »

Hi pistol i have just got a email from peirs corbyn weatheraction i asked him how can there be strong cold when the Ao is so high heres what he sent me back dont make anysense to me
John I was informed to day that the AO had gone quickly negative
Thanks
Piers

Now I'm an amuetuer , amuetuer chart reader but its pretty clear to see that it's strongly positive AO at present or am I missing something ???

And to boot it was not on the charts to change in the next week or so .

Su does the AO chart run on the model timeline or just once a day ?

MCRIOT email him back with the chart or a screen shot of it and ask him to explain .

Winter 2011/2012

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