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Aston Villa Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours/Champions League Thread 2024/25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Get £20m for him or let him leave for nothing in summer.

    Considering Gerrard doesn't start him all the time and prefers McGinn, you could see Gerrard being ok with selling him.

    How's it's gotten to this stage is a joke/shambles.

    This month should of been about who we might bring in, not whether one of our better players will leave the day before the window closes. Absolute sh1tshow of a club these days.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    This transfer window promised so much and has delivered so little.

    I can only think they don't want to give war chest to manager who is close to the sack



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    In those situations you have to sack him, and let Lange take the reins though. I’m genuinely worried about relegation as it stands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    It started off well.

    End of the summer there wasn't many Gerrard out fans.

    Net spend the last two summers has been extremely low.

    No doubt Gerrard will blame the loss of Beale and Carlos.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,554 ✭✭✭LeBash


    The rumours are now that Luiz is going for 30 million to Liverpool

    Watkins wanted by Leeds and Villa open to selling.

    Also seen something this morning on twitter that we have only sold 2 players for a profit since (I think) 2008. Westy and Benteke out of 60 odd signing made in that time.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Two crazy sales if true.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,789 ✭✭✭✭JPA




  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    El Ghazi officially gone. Never going to get a look in anyway but it leaves Bailey as probably the only wide player and an apparently disgruntled one at that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Wish him well, he was a headless chicken at times but his goal in the playoff final and some of the goals he scored including vital penalties in our first season will be my memories of him. Has the potential to do well with PSV.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    2.5 million for aeg is very little.

    Great player for us over years , sad to see him go but his not at level we need.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Agreed. He's only 27 too, thought he was older.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    I'd rather lost him for free in summer. Even if he continues to be on the bench, who do we have for cover if McGinn or Ramsey get injured? Nakamba? We are in a really bad situation here, I'm also worried about relegation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    I totally agree with you.

    What's £20m compared to the cost of relegation?

    The money is no good to Gerrard as he won't have time to spend it on a replacement.

    I'd rather keep Luiz and play him.

    Wonder what sort of headspace the players are in with the current mess going on at the club, can't be great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Apparently we might be signing Lucas Moura



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Any idea if permanent or loan?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    Is he not a winger?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Mings back in, with Konsa


    Watkins, Bailey and Buendia front 3 sounds tasty.


    But Luiz on bench as McGinn and Ramsey in midfield, that's a bit lightweight



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    No Luiz in the team. Midfield 3 of Kamara/McGinn/Ramsey. Front 3 of Buendia/Waktins/Bailey.

    SG changing the wallpaper, but not addressing the cracks in the walls.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Isn't this the same starting 11 as against Palace in the last away game. That ended well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Ramsey and McGinn in the same line up doesn't work.

    Why on earth would Luiz want to hang around when Gerrard won't even play him despite 3 wins in 15?

    Lucas Moura, another over-rated, over-paid Brazilian who's made his money and shown little consistency. He'd be as effective as the last 3 Brazilians we signed, Wesley, Coutinho and Carlos.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Panrich


    Rumours that we met Pochettino in London yesterday from the same source who called Kamara in early May. I wonder if Gerrard is now trolling us by picking the team that got taken apart by Palace?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand




  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Panrich


    He did. Don't let me get further ahead of myself. 🤣



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Thing is, and I've said it before, we tend to play better against bigger teams that come out and attack us; and this team we've out today has an awful lot of pace to counter with - so maybe we don't need to worry about a skillful strong midfield when what we want is Ramsey, Bailey, Watkins all bombing forward onto long through balls



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Mings lucky that wasn't a penalty - didn't look much in real time, but replays were iffy, if VAR had looked



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    There it is - 1-0 Arsenal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Martinez mistake, should have held it


    But they could have had 3, and it's all down to selection. Midfield is just being overrun, while our att at wingers are just being isolated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 965 ✭✭✭CucaFace


    Team is a shambles from the keeper to the attack.

    SG has been badly found out as a manager.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Beginning to wonder if Martinez is a one season wonder.

    Getting absolutely bossed.

    Watkins can't hold the ball up at all, hasn't the pace to run in behind.

    Arsenal smell blood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    They are just so much better than our players, faster in closing down, snapping into proper tackles, winning every 50/50 - ours can't string passes together, awful touches all round, unable to find any of the space that Arsenal are leaving, instead it's suicide pass after suicide pass back to Martinez



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Joke..... they could have scored 5 times there in 10 seconds. It's like kids football. Martinez did pull off a world class save in the middle of it, but no-one there to clear or mop up, just torn to shreds and relying on luck



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,841 ✭✭✭Panrich


    It's only two seasons ago that we beat them 3-0 here and had another disallowed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Again Martinez to the rescue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,554 ✭✭✭✭CSF


    Gerrard finds new and inventive ways to bring expectations down further. That’s the most pathetic half of football we’ve seen all season and the selection to choose from is vast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Haaland has scored a hatrick in the first half. Imagine what he'll do Saturday against us🙈



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,789 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    Apart from Martinez mistake, I wouldn't question the players tonight.

    I'd ask Gerrard, What did he expect to happen with his tactical setup?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    We're play a high forward 3 hoping to counter - fair enough.....

    But also expecting our FBs to push up and join them....madness and just leaving our defence so exposed. Also Ramsey being told to push on quickly to help out too, leaving McGinn and Kamara isolated



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Does Garry Mac contribute anything from the bench?

    Always seems to be sitting on his hole looking confused.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Cash is killing himself to try help us out, absolutely exhausting himself in defence and attack, fair play to him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,882 ✭✭✭sc86


    How does digne get a game for france



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    73 mins gone, losing the game. Zero substitutions so far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Oh wait, Luiz is on for our best attacking player.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Hahaha! Luiz.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Bwahahhaha this'll be the jammiest result since marmalade was invented if we hang on



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    2-1 immediately. Of course.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,089 ✭✭✭Patser


    Forget about it....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,350 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    Woeful defending for that second goal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,246 ✭✭✭Esse85


    Thought the keeper was at fault for both goals and should be doing better.



  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,796 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    Another fluke from Luiz I see...



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