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F1 2020 :Round 9 Tuscany GP : Mugello (See MOD warning on 2nd post)

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    #122
    alchemist33
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    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    The cars at the back were at fault.

    Thery were at full acceleration when nobody else was

    Thats the issue. As someone said you need a line, like the start line, which they cant accelerate before


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    #123
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    The cars at the back were at fault.

    Thery were at full acceleration when nobody else was

    All too focused on getting a tow, blinded.


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    #124
    Rossi IRL
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    TheDoctor wrote: »
    100% guys at the backs fault. Accelerating when the guys at the front hadn’t.

    Would be boring but I could see a rule come in where you stay at safety car speeds until the start line and can only accelerate after that.


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    #125
    adox
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    The track as much as anything caused that crash. I can’t think of another track where it’s to the lead cars advantage to wait until the last second to bolt.


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    #126
    Burkie1203
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    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Would be boring but I could see a rule come in where you stay at safety car speeds until the start line and can only accelerate after that.

    Just line them up for standing starts


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    #127
    [Deleted User]
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    From Bottas rear view mirror, I cant see that he had any hand on what went on far, far behind him.


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    #128
    ScrubsfanChris
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    First contact happening before Bottas had even hit the line.
    If anything, looking at the replays, race control showed the green flags/lights too early.


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    #129
    This is it
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    OSI wrote: »
    Was Bottas’ engineer implying the accident was his fault?

    I didn't take that from his comments


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    #130
    ACitizenErased
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    The track seems way too tight or something, there was no room to even attempt to move


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    #131
    Faugheen
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    I take it back. Fair enough on Bottas’ part.


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    #132
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    From Bottas rear view mirror, I cant see that he had any hand on what went on far, far behind him.

    And it happened just before he put his foot down.

    I don't blame Bottas for any of that. Most of the experts on Sky had called how Bottas was going to restart that - it seemed common sense.

    Combination of the track and the poor vision in the cars after that.

    Surely a standing start then for the restart?


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    #133
    jammiedodgers
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    Things are getting so chaotic Williams could score some points! :eek:


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    #134
    Rossi IRL
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    jammiedodgers wrote: »
    Things are getting so chaotic Williams could score some points! :eek:

    Don't worry, they will find a way not to


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    #135
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    ctrl-alt-delete wrote: »
    And it happened just before he put his foot down.

    I don't blame Bottas for any of that. Most of the experts on Sky had called how Bottas was going to restart that - it seemed common sense.

    Combination of the track and the poor vision in the cars after that.

    Surely a standing start then for the restart?

    Think sky said it’s a standing start.

    Were the green flags being waved too soon?


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    #136
    Dont be at yourself
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    The scrap for 3rd will be fascinating. Hopefully Bottas can give Hamilton a race, but I won’t hold my breath.


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    #137
    Burkie1203
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    Ocon car is melting at the back


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    #138
    Longing
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    ACitizenErased wrote: »
    The track seems way too tight or something, there was no room to even attempt to move


    Welcome to the 70's and 80's


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    #139
    Burkie1203
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    Dont be at yourself wrote: »
    The scrap for 3rd will be fascinating. Hopefully Bottas can give Hamilton a race, but I won’t hold my breath.

    I'm hoping they collide on the restart


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    #140
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Who ever at the back put the foot down too early is at fault, haven't seen a replay proving who it was yet.


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    #141
    PsychoPete
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    Be nice to see Russell finish in the points


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    #142
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »
    Think sky said it’s a standing start.

    Were the green flags being waved too soon?

    Looked like it didn't it, I think there will be quite a few things to consider in terms of contributing factors.


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    #143
    Charlie-Bravo
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    So the talk after this race will be how to manage the risk in situations like this. Let's see if they copy the Indycar restart with cars side by side, doing a rolling start... And wait for green flag on the straight before flooring it.

    -. . ...- . .-. / --. --- -. -. .- / --. .. ...- . / -.-- --- ..- / ..- .--.



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    #144
    ScrubsfanChris
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    SKY explained perfectly what just happen.
    100% driver error from the lads at the back.

    Also explained green flag means race has restarted BUT you still cant pass until you pass the line.


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    #145
    jammiedodgers
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    https://twitter.com/ChrisMedlandF1/status/1305141544740179968


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    #146
    Burkie1203
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    Ocon out


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    #147
    H3llR4iser
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    I don't see how can anyone possibly blame either Bottas or "the track" - it's a pure matter of having a few drivers on the grid who clearly put their brains into storage at some point - and maybe some race engineers giving idiotic advice of "holding back" to accelerate first and build up speed. You just don't bolt away if you're at the back.


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    #148
    ctrl-alt-delete
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    Roles reversed for Hamilton and Bottas now with the standing start.
    Bottas kind of losing out for not putting a foot wrong so far.


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    #149
    [Deleted User]
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    Gorgeous George is in the points! Woohoo


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    #150
    Zookey123
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    russell now into the points with ocon out.


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    #151
    ScrubsfanChris
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    Big chance for Danny Ric to get a podium here


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