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APower79 · 18-09-2020 11:58pm

bazu wrote: »

Criminal Procedure and Practice - So right to silence; inferences re s18/19; right to a solicitor in GS questioning/interview; detention; bail, etc. It's one of the most common questions. Weidly the SCC is thrown in with it too.

Along with that, murder/manslaughter + defences. Self-defence + Provocation are the big ones but you have to know all of it. Inchoate offences + joint enterprise gets thrown in with some of the prob questions.

Sexual offences.

Non-Fatal Offences Against the Person.

Courts + nature of crime/criminal offences and all that jazz.

That sort of thing really. Any chance you could shoot me that grid btw? It'd be appreciated

Sent a message. How do I send the exam grid?

APower79 · 19-09-2020 12:48am

Hi, does anyone know the criminal March paper and could tell me what questions appeared? Thanks sooo much!!!

YcL · 19-09-2020 1:30am

Devestated to see exams prosponed!! FE1s are like a dark cloud hanging over, and with only 2 left was hoping to put them behind me! I get there are restrictions but I sat the August sitting and felt very safe. It's personal responsibility,! It's really up to each person to be aware and mind oneself Hope they go ahead as scheduled

YcL · 19-09-2020 1:34am

FE.ONE wrote: »

I would have thought that the new application closing date would be the 28th to correspond with results from the August sitting. I'm waiting on 2 results from August and unsure what to do. I'll probably just apply for both again and if I pass them then hope that the LS will issue a refund..

I'm the same, I applied for the 4 including 2 in August and was told to contact ASAP if I pass and they will issue a refund, I am expecting to have to sit tort and I have company day after but at the end of the day the sitting was not aimed to suit me so can not complain, just going to get on with it and give tort the day before

Lelila · 19-09-2020 9:52am

YcL wrote: »

Devestated to see exams prosponed!! FE1s are like a dark cloud hanging over, and with only 2 left was hoping to put them behind me! I get there are restrictions but I sat the August sitting and felt very safe. It's personal responsibility,! It's really up to each person to be aware and mind oneself Hope they go ahead as scheduled

I'm devastated too. I've booked 2 weeks unpaid off work for October & once it's booked it can't be cancelled. I'm hoping to start the hybrid course in January so the timeline's very tight It's stressful enough having to find a traineeship & waiting for August exam results without having an extra month to stress over the November exams. I'm in Cork so don't see any reason why the October sitting couldn't go ahead here. There were no issues in August.

Lelila · 19-09-2020 9:55am

FE.ONE wrote: »

I would have thought that the new application closing date would be the 28th to correspond with results from the August sitting. I'm waiting on 2 results from August and unsure what to do. I'll probably just apply for both again and if I pass them then hope that the LS will issue a refund..

I rang the Law Society & was told to apply & they'd issue a refund if I pass.

Lelila · 19-09-2020 10:10am

channing90 wrote: »

Anyone else struggle to learn the essay Harmonious interpretation for constitutional? I have a Griffith sample and it’s just very hard to get into my head.

Yes! I went with Griffith College & failed Constitutional in March. Find it very hard to pinpoint what they're asking for. I felt like all my answers were off topic, but still managed 44%. I left out Constitutional interpretation, but if I hadn't I might have passed. It does come up often. So I'd say try to stick at it if you can.

YcL · 19-09-2020 11:26am

Lelila wrote: »

I'm devastated too. I've booked 2 weeks unpaid off work for October & once it's booked it can't be cancelled. I'm hoping to start the hybrid course in January so the timeline's very tight It's stressful enough having to find a traineeship & waiting for August exam results without having an extra month to stress over the November exams. I'm in Cork so don't see any reason why the October sitting couldn't go ahead here. There were no issues in August.

I'm in a very similar situation and the same with the hybrid! Hopefully there will be a change again, I'm going to put the head down and keep going as if exam is on.

Michael517 · 19-09-2020 12:10pm

Does anyone have a grid for the constitutional case note questions - have plenty of grids to swap with if needs be

Angela21 · 19-09-2020 7:28pm

channing90 wrote: »

Anyone else struggle to learn the essay Harmonious interpretation for constitutional? I have a Griffith sample and it’s just very hard to get into my head.

Try not learn the essay. Learn a a few cases for each method and have a extra two to discuss if you need a full essay question on one method.

The harmonious method allows you to come to an interpretation that fits in with other interlinked provisions. For example article 43 -property could not be looked at without also looking at property under 40.3.2

Purpose you are trying to decide what the purpose of the article is. You can look at the other provision but it is only help ascertain the purpose

I use sample answers but only as a guide if I don't understand something but they can be misleading as they are often too short. The grifit ones are a copy and paste and some times they forget to take out part of the old question

FE1LURCH · 19-09-2020 8:31pm

Hey guys it’s Nicole,
First time FE1er. Any tips For constitutional. Didn’t cover it in college. Majored in science, heard the FE1’s are an easy go????

Liordi · 19-09-2020 8:45pm

FE1LURCH wrote: »

Hey guys it’s Nicole,
First time FE1er. Any tips For constitutional. Didn’t cover it in college. Majored in science, heard the FE1’s are an easy go????

Yeah, definitely.
Don't forget the new unenumerated right: the right to shop in Lidl without wearing a mask.

APower79 · 19-09-2020 10:02pm

FE1LURCH wrote: »

Hey guys it’s Nicole,
First time FE1er. Any tips For constitutional. Didn’t cover it in college. Majored in science, heard the FE1’s are an easy go????

I’m in the same boat. Science grad, years ago though. Trying criminal first In November!

Fe1student1234 · 19-09-2020 10:32pm

APower79 wrote: »

I’m in the same boat. Science grad, years ago though. Trying criminal first In November!

Criminal is definitely a good one to start. Interesting and easy to read

FE1LURCH · 20-09-2020 12:49am

Liordi wrote: »

Yeah, definitely.
Don't forget the new unenumerated right: the right to shop in Lidl without wearing a mask.

Cheers Dump count hope you have failed all your exams my daddy is a partner in A&L so your sucking lemons my man you dumpy ****.

Mod
Abuse! Pls take a month off from this forum

rightytighty · 20-09-2020 5:30am

FE1LURCH wrote: »

Hey guys it’s Nicole,
First time FE1er. Any tips For constitutional. Didn’t cover it in college. Majored in science, heard the FE1’s are an easy go????

An easy go! Haha

Supermax1988 · 20-09-2020 9:09am

rightytighty wrote: »

An easy go! Haha

First class honours level trolling

Katniss1998 · 20-09-2020 12:42pm

Anyone thinking of taking an extra exam now?

iamanengine · 20-09-2020 1:39pm

Hamerzan Sickles wrote: »

This is actually great news everyone -- it gives iamanengine more time to study the papers and come up with predictions for those of us who haven't completed all eight yet!

Sorry mate, I’m enjoying retirement from the predictions game. I think I’ll have to pass that mantle on to you in my absence!

IgoPAP · 20-09-2020 3:08pm

Katniss1998 wrote: »

Anyone thinking of taking an extra exam now?

An extra subject to cover in a month is just too close to the line for me unfortunately!

Debarramike137 · 20-09-2020 4:02pm

hi all, is criminal easy to get a grasp of? Ive not done it in college. still prepping contract, equity and property..thanks a lot

Pc_law · 20-09-2020 4:40pm

Pending results on the 28th, I was just wondering how likely are you to pass if your application in the problem questions was a bit unstructured/messy? I’m fairly confident with regards to the law but I feel like my applications in one or two of the problem questions was unclear. Thanks.

Hazel774 · 20-09-2020 5:01pm

Debarramike137 wrote: »

hi all, is criminal easy to get a grasp of? Ive not done it in college. still prepping contract, equity and property..thanks a lot

Yes, criminal is one of the 'easier' topics to grasp, its short enough and it's quite interesting therefore easy to remember.
There does tend to be mixing of topics in the questions, so your best bet would be to try and study everything but not requiring too much detail (because topics are mixed you actually don't need long notes on any topics).
I managed to pass with quite a short summary of every topic; the key cases, the elements of the offence and the provisions of the Act stating the offence.

The examiner is quite a generous marker imo. And there are some key topics that will likely make an appearance on every paper e.g. sexual offences, murder/manslaughter

Debarramike137 · 20-09-2020 7:33pm

Hazel774 wrote: »

Yes, criminal is one of the 'easier' topics to grasp, its short enough and it's quite interesting therefore easy to remember.
There does tend to be mixing of topics in the questions, so your best bet would be to try and study everything but not requiring too much detail (because topics are mixed you actually don't need long notes on any topics).
I managed to pass with quite a short summary of every topic; the key cases, the elements of the offence and the provisions of the Act stating the offence.

The examiner is quite a generous marker imo. And there are some key topics that will likely make an appearance on every paper e.g. sexual offences, murder/manslaughter

Thank you so much!!!

dobby896 · 20-09-2020 7:42pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

An extra subject to cover in a month is just too close to the line for me unfortunately!

It's 6 weeks now isnt it though?

I definitely won't be taking on a new subject anyway either, not that much of a masochist lol

Jenosul · 20-09-2020 10:34pm

Hi everyone hope the study is going well. I am just wondering if any kind person has a company grid? Thank you
Also tips are much welcomed as I am cramming for the extension and hoping for a pass.

KCSLAW · 21-09-2020 8:43am

Is anyone else having issues when clicking on the link to apply for the exams? It says the form is not available to me even though I applied to two last week with no problems.

LS3 · 21-09-2020 9:53am

I dont mean to be a Debbie Downer but was was talking to my GP re this Dublin lockdown and they think its going to be more like 6+ weeks just with the figures. Im going to start studying for an extra topic now I think because who even knows if it will be early november.

On another note has anyone talked to them about moving the application closing date to the 28th rather than the 25th?

dobby896 · 21-09-2020 10:02am

LS3 wrote: »

I dont mean to be a Debbie Downer but was was talking to my GP re this Dublin lockdown and they think its going to be more like 6+ weeks just with the figures. Im going to start studying for an extra topic now I think because who even knows if it will be early november.

On another note has anyone talked to them about moving the application closing date to the 28th rather than the 25th?

Hopefully is this could be the case, there will be some sort of online facility available.

StabiloLaw · 21-09-2020 10:04am

LS3 wrote: »

I dont mean to be a Debbie Downer but was was talking to my GP re this Dublin lockdown and they think its going to be more like 6+ weeks just with the figures. Im going to start studying for an extra topic now I think because who even knows if it will be early november.

On another note has anyone talked to them about moving the application closing date to the 28th rather than the 25th?

I sent an email this morning asking if it's possible to extend the application deadline until the 28th, or even allow us add additional exams if we find we failed them.

I'm really not in a position to fork out for Tort/ EU and wait months for a refund.

Al1501 · 21-09-2020 10:34am

Jenosul wrote: »

Hi everyone hope the study is going well. I am just wondering if any kind person has a company grid? Thank you
Also tips are much welcomed as I am cramming for the extension and hoping for a pass.

I would also really appreciate a company grid, if anyone has one

awsah · 21-09-2020 11:08am

Al1501 wrote: »

I would also really appreciate a company grid, if anyone has one

pm me your email and I'll send it on

StabiloLaw · 21-09-2020 11:16am

For those awaiting results, I just got an email to say that deadline has been extended to the 30th.

Hope this helps!

FE1Rookie · 21-09-2020 11:23am

Can someone provide me with an answer here. I've emailed the Law Soc to no avail.

Will the October application, which I've paid for, be brought forward to November? I want to sit the same exams as I originally applied for and I would prefer it to just carry forward rather than have to cancel, wait months for a refund, and reapply for November with money I don't have.

StabiloLaw · 21-09-2020 11:24am

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Can someone provide me with an answer here. I've emailed the Law Soc to no avail.

Will the October application, which I've paid for, be brought forward to November? I want to sit the same exams as I originally applied for and I would prefer it to just carry forward rather than have to cancel, wait months for a refund, and reapply for November with money I don't have.

There's an automatic reply when you email the Law Soc which says the applications are carried forward.

KCSLAW · 21-09-2020 11:27am

I got an email saying the deadline is extended until next Wednesday the 30th

FE1Rookie · 21-09-2020 11:40am

Anyone else's study and motivation absolutely derailed because of this postponed date?

I was in a great flow and have 75% of my notes done for the exams I was going to sit in October, but now that I've got an extra month on top of it, with the uncertainty around whether that will even happen, I can't seem to focus at all. I know this virus is unpredictable and our government even more so, and not much can be done, but I just can't focus. My study plan was going so well, I was ahead of schedule and had ample time to practice exam questions over and over as I did about 1 or 2 weeks before my last exam. I'm so distracted now. I'm not even spending time on hobbies either I'm just procrastinating wasting nearly all day on the phone or avoiding the books by sorting things out at my job (which was only meant to be a side-piece). I hate this.

Supermax1988 · 21-09-2020 11:47am

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Anyone else's study and motivation absolutely derailed because of this postponed date?

I was in a great flow and have 75% of my notes done for the exams I was going to sit in October, but now that I've got an extra month on top of it, with the uncertainty around whether that will even happen, I can't seem to focus at all. I know this virus is unpredictable and our government even more so, and not much can be done, but I just can't focus. My study plan was going so well, I was ahead of schedule and had ample time to practice exam questions over and over as I did about 1 or 2 weeks before my last exam. I'm so distracted now. I'm not even spending time on hobbies either I'm just procrastinating wasting nearly all day on the phone or avoiding the books by sorting things out at my job (which was only meant to be a side-piece). I hate this.

With you 100%. Really felt I was building momentum the last couple of weeks. Didn't do a tap at the weekend after the announcement of the postponement.

awsah · 21-09-2020 11:53am

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Anyone else's study and motivation absolutely derailed because of this postponed date?

I was in a great flow and have 75% of my notes done for the exams I was going to sit in October, but now that I've got an extra month on top of it, with the uncertainty around whether that will even happen, I can't seem to focus at all. I know this virus is unpredictable and our government even more so, and not much can be done, but I just can't focus. My study plan was going so well, I was ahead of schedule and had ample time to practice exam questions over and over as I did about 1 or 2 weeks before my last exam. I'm so distracted now. I'm not even spending time on hobbies either I'm just procrastinating wasting nearly all day on the phone or avoiding the books by sorting things out at my job (which was only meant to be a side-piece). I hate this.

Ya I am the same, I did nothing all weekend but hoping to get back into it today. I signed up to do 4 so could probably do with the extra time

dobby896 · 21-09-2020 11:56am

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Anyone else's study and motivation absolutely derailed because of this postponed date?

I was in a great flow and have 75% of my notes done for the exams I was going to sit in October, but now that I've got an extra month on top of it, with the uncertainty around whether that will even happen, I can't seem to focus at all. I know this virus is unpredictable and our government even more so, and not much can be done, but I just can't focus. My study plan was going so well, I was ahead of schedule and had ample time to practice exam questions over and over as I did about 1 or 2 weeks before my last exam. I'm so distracted now. I'm not even spending time on hobbies either I'm just procrastinating wasting nearly all day on the phone or avoiding the books by sorting things out at my job (which was only meant to be a side-piece). I hate this.

I'm the exact same, I may as well have written this myself. I feel like the wind has been taken out of my sails.

I've taken a few days off and just acknowledged that they were not going to be as productive as the days prior. I'm now just going to continue where I left off with the study plan, the way I look at it is that nothing bad can come out of constant familirisation with the material, it's something that I know I'll be grateful for a few weeks down the line.

What a year to be sitting these exams!

lsheehaneire · 21-09-2020 12:01pm

I presume we will get an email today ahead of next Mondays results ?? or is this wishful thinking on my part ?

IgoPAP · 21-09-2020 12:05pm

LS3 wrote: »

I dont mean to be a Debbie Downer but was was talking to my GP re this Dublin lockdown and they think its going to be more like 6+ weeks just with the figures. Im going to start studying for an extra topic now I think because who even knows if it will be early november.

On another note has anyone talked to them about moving the application closing date to the 28th rather than the 25th?

Conversely, the online facility could be set up earlier and we might have the exam earlier than November.

dobby896 · 21-09-2020 12:18pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

Conversely, the online facility could be set up earlier and we might have the exam earlier than November.

I really can't see it being brought forward again.

I know lots of people who have now gone off study leave and back to work (to go on study leave again in October), so I really cannot see them now bringing the exams back to the original dates/earlier because people will now be planning everything around the new dates.

michaelot97 · 21-09-2020 12:25pm

IgoPAP wrote: »

Conversely, the online facility could be set up earlier and we might have the exam earlier than November.

There's surely no way they can move the exams closer? There would be uproar

IgoPAP · 21-09-2020 1:13pm

michaelot97 wrote: »

There's surely no way they can move the exams closer? There would be uproar

Like the uproar after the Law Society decided to hold exams before candidates even knew whether they had passed the previous ones? Nope, Fe-1 candidates will meekly accept it.

You're right anyways - I doubt they'll bring the exams any closer. But first week of November is more of an aspiration than an actual date.

lawgirl23 · 21-09-2020 1:30pm

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Can someone provide me with an answer here. I've emailed the Law Soc to no avail.

Will the October application, which I've paid for, be brought forward to November? I want to sit the same exams as I originally applied for and I would prefer it to just carry forward rather than have to cancel, wait months for a refund, and reapply for November with money I don't have.

I asked the same question and got confirmation the application for October will be automatically carried forward. Don’t need to do anything further.

legallyginger · 21-09-2020 3:55pm

Don't suppose anybody has been in touch with the law society regarding release of a new timetable. Know a lot of people in the same boat with annual leave dates etc.

StabiloLaw · 21-09-2020 4:26pm

legallyginger wrote: »

Don't suppose anybody has been in touch with the law society regarding release of a new timetable. Know a lot of people in the same boat with annual leave dates etc.

They said to me that the timetable is the exact same as the October one, just on the November dates, commencing on the 3rd.

I assume that's subject to Covid at the time.

lawgrad15 · 21-09-2020 4:58pm

FE1Rookie wrote: »

Anyone else's study and motivation absolutely derailed because of this postponed date?

I was in a great flow and have 75% of my notes done for the exams I was going to sit in October, but now that I've got an extra month on top of it, with the uncertainty around whether that will even happen, I can't seem to focus at all. I know this virus is unpredictable and our government even more so, and not much can be done, but I just can't focus. My study plan was going so well, I was ahead of schedule and had ample time to practice exam questions over and over as I did about 1 or 2 weeks before my last exam. I'm so distracted now. I'm not even spending time on hobbies either I'm just procrastinating wasting nearly all day on the phone or avoiding the books by sorting things out at my job (which was only meant to be a side-piece). I hate this.

I felt the exact same as you when the fe1's were cancelled in March. My advice is to keep doing a little every day. I was doing tort and I did 2 hours every morning and that was it. Done for the day. It was annoying but it worked. Plus I got that cram energy back near the end which I wasn't sure would happen or not. So my advice is keep working away. You can still have plenty of time for hobbies etc. You will be fine

Coopie · 22-09-2020 11:13am

So is Constitutional on the 11th November?

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