Z list celebrities

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 9:07am #1

In Ireland is being a Z list celebrity lucatrive?.

Flick through the raido stations a while ago, I came across what I think was some sort of DJ/ man about town/ media something, being interviews, his life seemed to consist of constant Instagram, and anything to get his name out there sounded almost despreat.

So is it very lucatrive or something or what is the attraction.

seamus · 23-09-2020 9:18am

It's not lucrative, none of these people make a good income. They might get the odd freebie here and there, but the majority of the appeal for them is the public attention. Most of these people are just about making the average wage, if not less.

Kylta · 23-09-2020 9:37am

What is a celebrity? And who actually makes them?

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 9:59am

Kylta wrote: »

What is a celebrity? And who actually makes them?

A celebrity is the exact opposite of a Z list celebrity.

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 10:24am

The idea of celebrites its self is nonsense.

AllForIt · 23-09-2020 10:25am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

A celebrity is the exact opposite of a Z list celebrity.

A celebrity is 26 times more important than a Z celebrity.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 10:31am

AllForIt wrote: »

A celebrity is 26 times more important than a Z celebrity.

Ashamed to admit i am so illiterate it took me a while to work that out!

IAMAMORON · 23-09-2020 10:32am

The You tube doc about Paris Hilton is worth a watch.

For the record, I fancy Vogue Williams ( a lot of men do , she is gorge ).

I hate Colin Farrell... who is actually a genuine celeb, Cian Egan, Brian Dowling ( inexplicably), and I like to bully Jason Byrne.

I would love to shift Jennifer Zamparelli as well, she is cute.

Thanks. I will update later.

greenspurs · 23-09-2020 10:33am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The You tube doc about Paris Hilton is worth a watch.

For the record, I fancy Vogue Williams ( a lot of men do , she is gorge ).

I hate Colin Farrell... who is actually a genuine celeb, Cian Egan, Brian Dowling ( inexplicably), and I like to bully Jason Byrne.

I would love to shift Jennifer Zamparelli as well, she is cute.

Thanks. I will update later.

Who asked the question that you answered ?!????

IAMAMORON · 23-09-2020 10:35am

greenspurs wrote: »

Who asked the question that you answered ?!????

I love Vogue Williams, she is beautiful.

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 10:35am

It actually an interesting subject if you think of it.

An indviduial finishes college and think they will become a journalist, decides that's too hard so instead pushes some minor interest in being a DJ, talking about books or films, or what hair brush they use, combined that with hudrets of intstergram posts and hopse tha turns in to a 'careere'

Tzardine · 23-09-2020 10:36am

Yes being a Z list celeb or social media influencer is quite lucrative, even in a small country like Ireland. Not always in cash terms, but in the free swag they get.

Brands will fall over themselves to give their products to these people in the hope that they might use them and post about them.

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 10:38am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The You tube doc about Paris Hilton is worth a watch.

For the record, I fancy Vogue Williams ( a lot of men do , she is gorge ).

I hate Colin Farrell... who is actually a genuine celeb, Cian Egan, Brian Dowling ( inexplicably), and I like to bully Jason Byrne.

I would love to shift Jennifer Zamparelli as well, she is cute.

Thanks. I will update later.

It does work for some Vogue Williams being an example, the others in your post I had to look up.

Mad_maxx · 23-09-2020 10:39am

AllForIt wrote: »

A celebrity is 26 times more important than a Z celebrity.

this post deserves a hundred thumbs up

very very good

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 10:40am

Tzardine wrote: »

Yes being a Z list celeb or social media influencer is quite lucrative, even in a small country like Ireland. Not always in cash terms, but in the free swag they get.

Brands will fall over themselves to give their products to these people in the hope that they might use them and post about them.

A fundraising table quiz I was at all the prizes was donated by a minor celeb from all the free stuff they are given and some of it would be expensive enough.

Mad_maxx · 23-09-2020 10:41am

id have thought a Z list celebrity is one that the majority of people have never even heard of but who does have a profile of some kind , one of those influencer types perhaps who is all over instagram ?

the likes of Maura Higgins is probably even well above a Z list celebrity , i didnt watch love island but ive heard of it and have seen her on tv a few times , shes able to do more than open an nightclub in athlone etc ?

riclad · 23-09-2020 10:45am

There are 1000,s of celebritys on instagram and facebook,
if you have x 1000 followers you get free products and get paid if you show
a certain brand.
if you make films that are showing in cinema,s you are not zlist.
in the uk d list celebritys ring up paparrazzi and get paid for photos that are in a newspaper .eg i,ll be going to a certain restaurant at 8pm
and i,ll pose for photos .
i dont think z list celebritys exist in ireland.
Dlist celebritys appear on talk shows and any reality show that will pay them.eg actors who were on eastenders 5 years ago .
i think the kardashians are extremely rich,
theres no reason for them to make a tv show now .
They can make more money from sponsored posts on instagram .
Maura higgins is not dlist, i think love island was the biggest hit itv had for years .

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 11:03am

Why do journalists need a media profile? Newstalk seems to very bad for this.

The person's appearance, personal life, what restaurant they go to etc should be irrelevant to their work as a journalist.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 11:07am

A z lister is someone who doesn't have anyone around to tell them its embarrassing.

AllForIt · 23-09-2020 11:16am

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

A z lister is someone who doesn't have anyone around to tell them its embarrassing.

"It is better to be no celebrity at all than to be a Z list celebrity" --- Socrates.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 11:28am

AllForIt wrote: »

"It is better to be no celebrity at all than to be a Z list celebrity" --- Socrates.

:P

ranto_boy · 23-09-2020 11:30am

I suppose in Ireland a Z-lister would be an actor from Fair City or the likes? I saw yer man Bella Doyle on the bus once. You could tell a few people were clocking him.

magic_murph · 23-09-2020 11:30am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I love Vogue Williams, she is beautiful.

if you like over sized horse faces then yes.

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 11:33am

magic_murph wrote: »

if you like over sized horse faces then yes.

one mans poison is another man's meat :P

kowloon · 23-09-2020 11:36am

Kylta wrote: »

What is a celebrity? And who actually makes them?

I believe they're grown in vats under the castle in Disney World.

Kylta · 23-09-2020 11:36am

What is the function of a celebrity? And why do people care about them so much?

Edgware · 23-09-2020 11:38am

ranto_boy wrote: »

I suppose in Ireland a Z-lister would be an actor from Fair City or the likes? I saw yer man Bella Doyle on the bus once. You could tell a few people were clocking him.

My Ma never stops talking about the time she saw Twink in the Royal Dublin Hotel.

23-09-2020 11:39am

I don't even know who the a list celebrities are anymore..

mariaalice · 23-09-2020 11:43am

Kylta wrote: »

What is the function of a celebrity? And why do people care about them so much?

That is a good question, I would say its escapism mostly I would look through the magazines in the hairdressers or doctors and thing they all look so shiney and happy but would have no real interested. I would not watch any reality TV, however lots love that sort of thing.

ILoveYourVibes · 23-09-2020 11:47am

Deleted User wrote: »

I don't even know who the a list celebrities are anymore..

There are virtually none.

The internet star killed them.

neris · 23-09-2020 11:51am

Edgware wrote: »

My Ma never stops talking about the time she saw Twink in the Royal Dublin Hotel.

who, where??

Airyfairy12 · 23-09-2020 3:29pm

Its very lucrative, besides the pay they get for interviews in magazines and RTE, they have a big enough social media following to make a decent living.

Ush1 · 23-09-2020 3:47pm

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I love Vogue Williams, she is beautiful.

Disturbingly large adams apple and deep voice. Quite large hands also.

kingtiger · 23-09-2020 3:57pm

Ush1 wrote: »

Disturbingly large adams apple and deep voice. Quite large hands also.

And a mouth like a torn pocket

McGinniesta · 24-09-2020 12:10am

Ush1 wrote: »

Disturbingly large adams apple and deep voice. Quite large hands also.

I'd still ride her.

Errashareesh · 24-09-2020 12:18am

Looks fine to me https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vogue_Williams#/media/File%3AVogue_Williams_2014.jpg

Very strange when a person's appearance is torn to shreds when they look nothing like how they're being described.

JustAThought · 24-09-2020 12:25am

neris wrote: »

who, where??

Twink.

‘Zip Up Your Mickey’ Twink.

All those years of being nice and playing good parts as nice panto fairy godmothers ruined by one little sentence.

Who says the internet dosn’t matter.

Mind you, free jumpers from penneys, VIP cinema seat upgrades and gold star AbebrakebBra cards don’t pay mortgages.

California Dreamer · 24-09-2020 7:03am

McGinniesta wrote: »

I'd still ride her.

Even after Brian McFadden going there????

touts · 24-09-2020 7:39am

My village has 3 different young people who before Covid-19 would turn up as guests of honour at events as "well known social influener". Local table quiz "Special Guest Host well known social influencer xxxx xxxxx". Dinner dance for GAA. Special Guest YYYY YYYYY, well known social influencer"

Older people, and especially parents, need to cop the **** on and realise when a young wan tells them he/she is a social influencer with 1000s fans on instagram that means they are just too lazy to get a proper job.

Kylta · 24-09-2020 7:50am

Who do social influencers influence?
Why do people feel the need to be influenced in the first place? Are people that really inept?

Casey78 · 24-09-2020 7:54am

IAMAMORON wrote: »

The You tube doc about Paris Hilton is worth a watch.

For the record, I fancy Vogue Williams ( a lot of men do , she is gorge ).

I hate Colin Farrell... who is actually a genuine celeb, Cian Egan, Brian Dowling ( inexplicably), and I like to bully Jason Byrne.

I would love to shift Jennifer Zamparelli as well, she is cute.

Thanks. I will update later.

Vogue Williams and Jennifer Zamparelli?
You have strange taste in women, neither of them are remotely good looking.

Errashareesh · 24-09-2020 10:26am

"Not remotely good looking" is hardly accurate. Some people don't seem to see the difference between not personally fancying someone and lack of any good looks at all.

I went to a convent school and so many of the girls would be commenting on nice looking girls' appearances - "I don't think she's good looking at all! Yeah if you look closely you can see a weird thing on her lip! Yeah!" etc.

Some posts here remind me of that - except it's not teenage girls, it's grown men!

IAMAMORON · 24-09-2020 10:30am

California Dreamer wrote: »

Even after Brian McFadden going there????

Never really got over that one myself.

I can forgive , but it is difficult to forget.

The poor guy thought he was going to be the next Robbie Williams........ oops.

seamus · 24-09-2020 10:34am

Errashareesh wrote: »

Very strange when a person's appearance is torn to shreds when they look nothing like how they're being described.

There's a very specific type of fragile male ego that pretends to take pride in claiming that an attractive woman is actually really ugly; like she's not good enough for his high standards.

Like I don't fancy Cheryl Cole/Nahasapeemapatalan, but that doesn't mean I think she's ugly. She's clearly very attractive. Same with Vogue. Not my cup of tea, but that doesn't mean I think she's unattractive. I can recognise the difference between fancying someone and recognising things that are aesthetically pleasing.

Lamborghinis are great looking cars, but I have no interest in driving one.

Church on Tuesday · 24-09-2020 12:00pm

Errashareesh wrote: »

"Not remotely good looking" is hardly accurate. Some people don't seem to see the difference between not personally fancying someone and lack of any good looks at all.

I went to a convent school and so many of the girls would be commenting on nice looking girls' appearances - "I don't think she's good looking at all! Yeah if you look closely you can see a weird thing on her lip! Yeah!" etc.

Some posts here remind me of that - except it's not teenage girls, it's grown men!

TBH if you're looking for common sense here in general, you will be very disappointed.

razorblunt · 24-09-2020 12:02pm

Well the elephant in the room with the influencers was their tax paying. A bit of a clampdown on that lately though.
Most of them have normal jobs too, they just don't focus on that part.

I wouldn't say they get paid a huge amount but the free swag is pretty helpful in keeping their own cost down I'd say. Have any of them been given free cars for the year like the GAA and Rugby lads do?

A friend of mine worked as a Sales Manager for an upmarket hotel in the UK. Peter Andre's management asked for comped rooms (2 of them) before. She initially was going to shoot it down but out of interest and the fact it was quiet midweek she agreed to the rooms only being comped. All this in return for "Peter giving exposure to the brand " and all that ****e.

They saw zero uptick in bookings outwith what they would have expected anyway. The only thing they did see was an upturn in D List British celebs also asking after clearly seeing Andre got a free stay. They were all rejected and Peter Andre himself was turned down 6 months later when he asked again.

jester77 · 24-09-2020 12:08pm

Spare a thought for those that don't even make it into the latin alphabet of celebrities

Homelander · 24-09-2020 5:33pm

With Vogue Williams, I just don't get why she's such a big part of Irish "celeb" news. The Irish Independent constantly posting stories about completely inane, nothing situations involving her.

You would almost think she pays them to keep her relevant or something.

Church on Tuesday · 24-09-2020 7:11pm

Homelander wrote: »

With Vogue Williams, I just don't get why she's such a big part of Irish "celeb" news. The Irish Independent constantly posting stories about completely inane, nothing situations involving her.

You would almost think she pays them to keep her relevant or something.

Yeah but I just ignore that kind of stuff. I literally know nothing about these kinds of celebrities or, God forbid, influencers.

24-09-2020 7:20pm

JustAThought · 26-09-2020 1:24pm

Homelander wrote: »

With Vogue Williams, I just don't get why she's such a big part of Irish "celeb" news. The Irish Independent constantly posting stories about completely inane, nothing situations involving her.

You would almost think she pays them to keep her relevant or something.

Her PR company possible has a recriprocal arrangement where to get access to ‘proper’ celebrities they have to pay a certain amount of coverage for their other Z listers. I’ve certainly experienced this.

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