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Dunmurry Springs GC closed 12.11.19

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  • #102
    moycullen14
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 890 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    Clubs charge entrance fees or hello money because they can. It's a simple as that. If demand outstrips supply, you can do this.

    The real value of entrance fees isn't the money it brings in, it's the money it stops going out. If you have an entrance fee, you have a long-term value in being a member of a club. It stops churn which is a killer if club finances are tight.

    I'd say every club in the country would charge them if they could. Their reintroduction would be the best possible sign of good health in the golf industry in this country.

    If you are down to 200 members and your lender is about to foreclose on you, you are a long way away from being able to charge entrance fees.


  • #103
    mike12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    The golfer who moves club every year are the ones that make it very hard for a club to budget.
    Once u paid a joining fee u were basically committing to that club for the long run.

    Now u could have 20 or 30 guys joining for a year or 2.
    Lots of clubs doing a special rate for year 1 hoping to catch these guys for a year or 2 before they move on again.
    Joining fees stop that for me it's a sign of a healthy club in a location that can command a premium.
    You often find that the annual sub will be less in a lot of the clubs charging a joining fee.


  • #104
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    mike12 wrote: »
    You often find that the annual sub will be less in a lot of the clubs charging a joining fee.

    Do you have many examples of this?

    My very anecdotal evidence would suggest otherwise...


  • #105
    First Up
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    Sincere Squeaking Snotty wrote:
    Do you have many examples of this?


    I think Old Conna have some such offer. Don't know of any others.


  • #106
    davegilly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 689 ✭✭✭davegilly


    Sincere Squeaking Snotty wrote: »
    Do you have many examples of this?

    My very anecdotal evidence would suggest otherwise...
    Ballybunion - sub is approx €500.
    Joining is approx €8K.


  • #107
    mike12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,331 ✭✭✭mike12


    Sincere Squeaking Snotty wrote: »
    Do you have many examples of this?

    My very anecdotal evidence would suggest otherwise...

    Say the island 1500 sub compared to Portmarnock links at 2500 last I heard.
    Luttrellstown 2500, think Baltray is around 1100.


  • #108
    xgronkjabv6pcl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 294 ✭✭xgronkjabv6pcl


    davegilly wrote: »
    Ballybunion - sub is approx €500.
    Joining is approx €8K.

    American summer money obviously helps keep the sub down as well
    mike12 wrote: »
    Say the island 1500 sub compared to Portmarnock links at 2500 last I heard.
    Luttrellstown 2500, think Baltray is around 1100.

    These are somewhat elite courses mentioned thus far. I suspect they are outside the budget of many golfers. It's unsurprising when discussing courses of that calibre that their entrance fee exceeds that of their subs.

    However, with the exception of Ballybunion which has a very affordable sub, the subs mentioned above exceed the subs of the average course in Ireland.
    These subs are less than the joining fee admittedly but the subs are quite high. They're simply catering for a smaller proportion of society rather than charging a price which discourages hopping from club to club.


  • #109
    mike12
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    Sincere Squeaking Snotty wrote: »
    These are somewhat elite courses mentioned thus far. I suspect they are outside the budget of many golfers. It's unsurprising when discussing courses of that calibre that their entrance fee exceeds that of their subs.

    However, with the exception of Ballybunion which has a very affordable sub, the subs mentioned above exceed the subs of the average course in Ireland.
    These subs are less than the joining fee admittedly but the subs are quite high. They're simply catering for a smaller proportion of society rather than charging a price which discourages hopping from club to club.

    Down the country I don't think there are joining fees outside the top of the range links courses.
    In Dublin there are joining fees on some average enough courses.
    €1500 is in or around the membership fee for most courses in Dublin that don't have a joining fee.


  • #110
    Dbu
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    mike12 wrote: »
    Down the country I don't think there are joining fees outside the top of the range links courses.
    In Dublin there are joining fees on some average enough courses.
    €1500 is in or around the membership fee for most courses in Dublin that don't have a joining fee.
    Douglas in Cork is gone up from 7k to 9K to join this year. I believe they are taking in over 10 new members


  • #111
    mike12
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    Dbu wrote: »
    Douglas in Cork is gone up from 7k to 9K to join this year. I believe they are taking in over 10 new members

    How does the annual sub compare to the other courses that don't charge a entry fee


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  • #112
    Keano
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    Thread was all about sadly the closure of another course and now it's not so let's leave it at that. Hopefully all the members get looked after in surrounding courses.


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