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Football and Covid 19

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  • #102
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    And if Spurs hadn't fronted the bill, they wouldn't have known. With Hull refusing to get tested before last nights game, this has a potential for disaster.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the lower leagues at least are put on hold by Christmas.


  • #103
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Kiith wrote: »
    And if Spurs hadn't fronted the bill, they wouldn't have known. With Hull refusing to get tested before last nights game, this has a potential for disaster.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the lower leagues at least are put on hold by Christmas.

    How did that manage to happen?


  • #104
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,216 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Apparently West Ham offered to pay, and they rejected it. To be fair, seeing the Leyton Orient game being cancelled (which i assume it will be, not postponed), it's not much an incentive to agree to testing.


  • #105
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Fitz* wrote: »
    How did that manage to happen?

    They are doing all the tests required under the Football League protocols, and felt under no obligation to do an extra test just because a Premier League outfit was rolling into town.

    There may well have been an element of 'Yorkshire stubbornness when up against the London attitude' about it.


  • #106
    MisterAnarchy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,261 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Kiith wrote: »
    And if Spurs hadn't fronted the bill, they wouldn't have known. With Hull refusing to get tested before last nights game, this has a potential for disaster.

    I wouldn't be surprised if the lower leagues at least are put on hold by Christmas.

    Both Manchester clubs refused to foot the bill it seems.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8761139/Top-Premier-League-clubs-odds-testing-Carabao-Cup-opponents.html


  • #107
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,194 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Both Manchester clubs refused to foot the bill it seems.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8761139/Top-Premier-League-clubs-odds-testing-Carabao-Cup-opponents.html
    Refused or didn't offer? There's a big difference and zero clarification in that article. Especially when quite a lot of EFL clubs are turning down free testing.


  • #108
    TFBubendorfer
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,340 ✭✭✭TFBubendorfer


    MisterAnarchy wrote: »
    Both Manchester clubs refused to foot the bill it seems.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-8761139/Top-Premier-League-clubs-odds-testing-Carabao-Cup-opponents.html

    If the Daily Mail is your only source, it's not a story


  • #109
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    To be fair, Craig Hope has got some exclusives correct lately.


  • #110
    Zebra3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,946 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Interesting article on Thursday night's Super Cup.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0923/1166982-controversy-swirls-ahead-of-super-cup-pilot/


  • #111
    LuckyLloyd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,403 ✭✭✭✭LuckyLloyd


    Richard Hillman wrote: »
    I can't see most of the lower leagues teams surviving if they don't let fans back soon. They may have to void the season to allow the clubs put their players on furlough.

    I was looking at our own Level System. Even at Level 1 we can only have 500 in a stadium. And we know the won't drop down from level 1 unless there is a vaccine. There ain't going to be a LOI season next year. WatchLOI ain't going to pay the bills. It will keep the bailiffs away but only for a while.

    Lower league football was never going to survive this fully intact. The idea that fans would return to stadiums in a large scale regular way at some point this season was fallacy.


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  • #112
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    Covid has tested positive for Zlatan.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0924/1167255-zlatan-ibrahimovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19/


  • #113
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,891 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Did he pick it up in Tallaght.


  • #114
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Covid has tested positive for Zlatan.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0924/1167255-zlatan-ibrahimovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

    Elimination strategy for the virus now a viable option


  • #115
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Covid has tested positive for Zlatan.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0924/1167255-zlatan-ibrahimovic-tests-positive-for-covid-19/

    That is the second time he's tested positive.


  • #116
    ~Rebel~
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,992 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    ERG89 wrote: »
    That is the second time he's tested positive.

    Don't think that's true.

    He did a big high profile campaign and did fundraising for it back in March, but he didn't have it then.


  • #117
    Nunu
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,894 ✭✭✭Nunu


    Agent Coulson wrote: »
    Did he pick it up in Tallaght.

    Possibly? He should have been more squareful.


  • #118
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/Ibra_official/status/1309142915210506244


  • #119
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Interesting article on Thursday night's Super Cup.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020/0923/1166982-controversy-swirls-ahead-of-super-cup-pilot/

    Unless they know the covid-19 status of every fan who attends and continue to track them for weeks afterwards, I'm curious what sort of meaningful results they could possibly seek to get out of this "experiment".


  • #120
    DVDM93
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,144 ✭✭✭DVDM93


    https://twitter.com/brfootball/status/1309436134561329152?s=20


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  • #121
    kksaints
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭kksaints


    Strange one in League 2 today where the Cheltenham vs Grimsby match has been called off after a Grimsby player has tested positive, however the Bradford vs Stevenage match has gone ahead despite three Stevenage players testing positive.


  • #122
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60,891 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Premier League clubs to vote on how to end season if coronavirus sees it cut short
    Premier League clubs will vote on Tuesday to decide how the season would be ended if it cannot be completed because of the coronavirus pandemic.

    Clubs agreed in principle on the main points of action if it is cut short at their last meeting in August.

    The wording of the new rule has been developed over the past few weeks.

    Clubs will vote at a shareholders meeting on Tuesday and, if the motion is passed, it will be written into the Premier League rules.

    Another vote would then take place at a future date on how many matches will need to have been played for the rules to be applied.

    BBC Sport understands the range will be around two thirds to three quarters of matches played. If the season has not reached that agreed point then it would be voided.

    Meanwhile, the issue of any bailout for the English Football League is not a specific proposal on the agenda for Tuesday's meeting, and there will be no vote.

    BBC Sport has been told there will be a focus on what happens next, given the different financial picture facing clubs following the announcement about fans last week.

    How might the rules work?
    If five games have been played and a new set of restrictions are introduced because of the coronavirus pandemic, then the league would not fall back on these plans.

    If it got to the end of December and about 45% of the season had been played, then that is still not likely to be enough for the plans to kick in, and the season would be voided.

    If the clubs agree that 66% of games is a sufficient number to fall back on the curtailment plans and the country then faces another lockdown, forcing football to be halted after 70% of the season has been played, there would be a set of rules to determine who would be crowned champions, who would finish in European qualification places and which teams would be relegated.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54331871


  • #123
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Few sports now struggling to deal with positive cases. The international break could prove pretty challenging for teams when players return.


  • #124
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    The international break should not be going ahead whatsoever. Too many mixing of different bubbles and dreesing rooms, let alone the travelling from different countries to different continents. Europe to South America etc should have been put out of the question.


  • #125
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    Salzburg not releasing any players for internationals.

    https://twitter.com/karlmatchett/status/1312704331523776512?s=19


  • #126
    ERG89
    Registered Users Posts: 11,611 ✭✭✭✭ERG89


    Napoli are in quarantine too, they played Genoa last week and 17 Genoa players(11 played last weekend) tested positive for Covid this week. Genoa's game was postponed this weekend, Napoli meanwhile are still expected to play Juventus in Turin tonight but they haven't travelled to the game.


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  • #127
    Cookiemunster
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,194 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    ERG89 wrote: »
    Napoli are in quarantine too, they played Genoa last week and 17 Genoa players(11 played last weekend) tested positive for Covid this week. Genoa's game was postponed this weekend, Napoli meanwhile are still expected to play Juventus in Turin tonight but they haven't travelled to the game.

    They have 2 positive cases and the local medical authorities have told them not to travel. The Lega Seria A have told them that if the can field 13 players including a goal keeper then the match must be played. Juve have turned up at the stadium and announced a starting XI. Napoli haven't travelled.

    The game has just now been officially abandoned.


  • #128
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Scotland squad hit - Armstrong positive, Tierney told to isolate.


  • #129
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    Been alot of cases linked to International teams, Id imagine alot will test positive when they return to their clubs.


  • #130
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    England v Scotland U19s game was abandoned today,


  • #131
    Ikozma
    Registered Users Posts: 1,049 ✭✭✭Ikozma


    Football will be stopped again pretty soon I'd say


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  • #132
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    https://twitter.com/ThAmadouMakadji/status/1315269255898828804?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1315269255898828804%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.boards.ie%2Fvbulletin%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D2058115620page%3D101


  • #133
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    International football needs to be scrapped for the time being. Completely unsustainable and while no players are suffering serious symptoms that has been documented. It is still a risk to their health. Players probably need to stay in bubbles with their clubs
    https://twitter.com/marcboal/status/1316023779001131010


  • #134
    Harry Palmr
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    Ronaldo (CR7 variant) has Covid 19


  • #135
    DM_7
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,409 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Ronaldo (CR7 variant) has Covid 19

    Well with recent tests (and varied results when retested) as seen with Ireland perhaps we should say Cristiano tests positive for Covid.
    Following the positive case, the remaining players underwent new tests this Tuesday morning, all with a negative result, and are available to Fernando Santos for training this afternoon, in Cidade do Futebol.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/cristiano-ronaldo-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-1.4379820


  • #136
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,533 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Ronaldo (CR7 variant) has Covid 19

    Cristiano Ronaldo has tested positive for Covid19, how many from Juventus now is that?
    https://forumofgames.com/




  • #137
    Drumpot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    wadacrack wrote: »
    International football needs to be scrapped for the time being. Completely unsustainable and while no players are suffering serious symptoms that has been documented. It is still a risk to their health. Players probably need to stay in bubbles with their clubs
    https://twitter.com/marcboal/status/1316023779001131010

    Totally agree. There’s also an argument that European club tournaments should equally be suspended. As a fan I don’t want that but objectively speaking international football and European tournaments are the worst in terms of spreading the virus globally and among different people living and playing in different countries.


  • #138
    PhilipsR
    Registered Users Posts: 723 ✭✭✭PhilipsR


    Unless they devise a bubble system along the lines of the NBA (and keep it to one location), there’s absolutely no chance the Euros go ahead next year (unless they get the teams some sort of fast paced vaccine).


  • #139
    Tom Mann Centuria
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,072 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1319372465131454464?s=20

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • #140
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/Millar_Colin/status/1325406418292379649


  • #141
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    England's Nations League game v Iceland in doubt, because Iceland play Denmark beforehand and Denmark is now on a no-travel list that doesn't seem to have the 'elite sportsperson' exemption.

    As per FIFA's new covid rules, clubs can now withdraw Danish players from international duty. Though ultimately the players are free to make their own decision and would have to isolate on return and thus miss matches. Players like Kaspar S, Vestegaard, Hjolberg would be the most high-profile Danes who'd have a decision to make. Swedish (Lindelöf) and Icelandic (Siggurdson) players would also be dragged in to it.
    Potential mess really.

    https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54858614


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  • #142
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1325492044941418502


  • #143
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    wadacrack wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/tancredipalmeri/status/1325492044941418502

    Be interesting to see how this plays out.
    I'm thinking of a team like Chile who have World Cup qualifiers, and have 2 big players from the above clubs (Vidal & Alexis).
    I'd suspect they'll just ignore that Italian health authorities decision, and turn up and play for Chile anyway, but guess we'll see.


  • #144
    kksaints
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,933 ✭✭✭kksaints


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    Be interesting to see how this plays out.
    I'm thinking of a team like Chile who have World Cup qualifiers, and have 2 big players from the above clubs (Vidal & Alexis).
    I'd suspect they'll just ignore that Italian health authorities decision, and turn up and play for Chile anyway, but guess we'll see.

    Some of the Serbian players had already reached Serbia before the decision was announced so they should be able to play in the playoff against Scotland. Kolerov and Milnkovic-Savic were two of them. Personally think that it's the wrong call for the international break this weekend.


  • #145
    adaminho
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,666 ✭✭✭adaminho


    https://twitter.com/SkySportsNews/status/1326833503502282752


  • #146
    Fitz*
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,061 ✭✭✭✭Fitz*


    It's some disgrace that friendlies are being played.

    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1326664754400645120


  • #147
    HalloweenJack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭HalloweenJack


    Playing international football is just insane at this moment in time. There's so many different rules and factors to take into consideration and its going to be a cluster****.

    Its all so surreal right now. Squads are being decimated and more players are getting sick. I wrote to a Finnish friend of mine to congratulate them beating France and he just said that it was hard to believe or get excited about given the circumstances.

    Whatever about competitive fixtures, friendlies are needlessly dangerous.


  • #148
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    HalloweenJack wrote: »

    Whatever about competitive fixtures, friendlies are needlessly dangerous.

    The problem is that they are 'bought and paid for' games, supposed to take place earlier in the year.
    A TV station has already paid a football association a sum of money for 2 home friendlies this year. A sponsor has paid for jersey design, another for pitch-side advertising. Someone has paid naming rights for the MegaLectric Arena, with a guarantee of x games each year.
    If these terrible games don't go ahead then someone is on the hook for that money. The various FAs can't afford to return it, and the sponsors/tv companies aren't all in a position to write it all off because of the hit their business has taken this year.

    For example, the English FA (who'd obviously be one of the better off ones) were apparently in a £1M hole to ITV alone if there'd been one less friendly than agreed this year.


  • #149
    El Gato De Negocios
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,111 ✭✭✭El Gato De Negocios


    ArmaniJeanss wrote: »
    the sponsors/tv companies aren't all in a position to write it all off because of the hit their business has taken this year

    Just on this point, not directed at you specifically but I've seen it mentioned before by others. Maybe I'm being a dope but I don't understand how tv companies have taken a hit this year.

    Every single game is being televised which means more viewers tuning in at various times given the staggered start times which means more exposure for sponsors / advertisers.

    I would have thought tv companies would be the only ones to benefit from having fans not at games as they now have a 100% captive audience.

    What am I missing?


  • #150
    ArmaniJeanss
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,512 ✭✭✭✭ArmaniJeanss


    El Gato De Negocios wrote: »
    Just on this point, not directed at you specifically but I've seen it mentioned before by others. Maybe I'm being a dope but I don't understand how tv companies have taken a hit this year.

    Every single game is being televised which means more viewers tuning in at various times given the staggered start times which means more exposure for sponsors / advertisers.

    I would have thought tv companies would be the only ones to benefit from having fans not at games as they now have a 100% captive audience.

    What am I missing?

    I think the problem is that the missing 4 months are zero revenue, and they aren't made up for by having extra sport crammed into the 5 months of the year.

    Think of lets say a sports/leisure goods manufacturer advertising campaign on Sky Sports. A spring campaign to sell you various spring items, them a summer campaign of shorts and sunglasses, then an autumn campaign with polo shirts and gloves.

    The first two campaigns never happened, Sky didn't get that revenue because LeisureWear withdrew their advertising from Sky Sports. The autumn campaign happened but they didn't pay 3 times as much for it just because there was shedload of sport on. They paid their normal autumn amount. Net result, the extra games didn't claw back revenue.


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  • #151
    wadacrack
    Registered Users Posts: 4,172 ✭✭✭wadacrack


    HalloweenJack wrote: »
    Playing international football is just insane at this moment in time. There's so many different rules and factors to take into consideration and its going to be a cluster****.

    Its all so surreal right now. Squads are being decimated and more players are getting sick. I wrote to a Finnish friend of mine to congratulate them beating France and he just said that it was hard to believe or get excited about given the circumstances.

    Whatever about competitive fixtures, friendlies are needlessly dangerous.

    Agree, injuries are at an all time high atm and fatigue is clearly having an impact on the quality of games. 2nd half of Man City Liverpool dropped off significantly in quality.


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