Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2020/2021 - see Mod Note in OP [18/11/20]

henke · 20-09-2020 10:06pm

https://twitter.com/Liam2TLR/status/1307715862233833472?s=08

I like this from Seamie

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smelly sock · 20-09-2020 11:18pm

LowOdour wrote: »

Even when Mee and Tarkowski are back, would be great to see him start 10-15 games this season. Our squad defence wouldn't look too bad (possible list of all EPL starters)
Doherty
Coleman
Duffy
Egan
Stevens
Clark
Dunne

Long also?

dr.kenneth noisewater · 20-09-2020 11:19pm

Connolly played well going from MOTD highlights, nice finish for the goal.

Good to see Smallbone getting decent gametime, Long on as a late sub again but nothing for Obafemi at all so far in the league and a few mins in the cup.

blinding · 20-09-2020 11:27pm

henke wrote: »

https://twitter.com/Liam2TLR/status/1307715862233833472?s=08

I like this from Seamie .

For those of ye with better hearing than me what advice did Seamus give him ?

pgj2015 · 21-09-2020 9:43am

who did Gibbs slap? embarrassing going down like that.

Wuff Wuff · 21-09-2020 9:48am

pgj2015 wrote: »

who did Gibbs slap? embarrassing going down like that.

James Rodriguez

blinding · 21-09-2020 12:08pm

Wuff Wuff wrote: »

James Rodriguez

Certainly not right to slap James Rodriquez but not being able to cope with physicality has held him back from making that step up to the Very Very Very High Level.

I haven’t seen this incident so I am not commenting on this incident specifically ! !

smelly sock · 21-09-2020 12:09pm

sugarman wrote: »

Gibbs said "I'd do it again" and Coleman said "Who you talking to? ...you'll do it again? Hardman ...****ing hardman."

Love it. Not just because it's Seamie but because he was acting a wannabe hardman and didn't know what to do when called out. Just made himself look silly.

Seamie made himself look silly? He should be having words with James after that. Laughable stuff. Gibbs should have said " I'll hit him a proper dig next time".

blinding · 21-09-2020 12:11pm

smelly sock wrote: »

Seamie made himself look silly? He should be having words with James after that. Laughable stuff. Gibbs should have said " I'll hit him a proper dig next time".

Maybe Gibbs deserved a Straightener or a Flattener ! !

Wuff Wuff · 21-09-2020 12:53pm

smelly sock wrote: »

Seamie made himself look silly? He should be having words with James after that. Laughable stuff. Gibbs should have said " I'll hit him a proper dig next time".

think he means Gibbs made himself look silly by acting hard then flapping it from Coleman

pgj2015 · 21-09-2020 2:48pm

blinding wrote: »

Certainly not right to slap James Rodriquez but not being able to cope with physicality has held him back from making that step up to the Very Very Very High Level.

I haven’t seen this incident so I am not commenting on this incident specifically ! !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8F8pdJZPA

The way coleman reacted you would think Gibbs did a tackle like roy keane did on haaland or something.

Bridge93 · 21-09-2020 3:07pm

But he wasn't reacting to what Gibbs did. He reacted to Gibbs acting like a hard man talking total ****e after he got his red card. If he'd taken his punishment instead of acting like a 10 year old Coleman wouldn't have said anything to him.

smelly sock · 21-09-2020 3:21pm

I think Seamus was trying to be a bit of a hard man himself.

Wuff Wuff · 21-09-2020 3:29pm

smelly sock wrote: »

I think Seamus was trying to be a bit of a hard man himself.

captains job to stick up for his teammates

pgj2015 · 21-09-2020 4:08pm

smelly sock wrote: »

I think Seamus was trying to be a bit of a hard man himself.

I agree. he would have said worse himself. if I was Gibbs I would have told him to fcuk off.

henke · 21-09-2020 4:30pm

It doesn't matter how dramatic James Rodriguez fell some players do this. Fact of the matter is a hand to the face is a red card and is completely stupid. It is an idiotic thing to do know when you know the rules. So for him to say he would commit the same red card offence again is a ludicrous thing to say. No captain of an opposition who hears that would keep quiet, otherwise they wouldn't be type of personality to make captain. Sorry but Seamie was right to have a go at him.

pgj2015 · 21-09-2020 4:48pm

henke wrote: »

It doesn't matter how dramatic James Rodriguez fell some players do this. Fact of the matter is a hand to the face is a red card and is completely stupid. It is an idiotic thing to do know when you know the rules. So for him to say he would commit the same red card offence again is a ludicrous thing to say. No captain of an opposition who hears that would keep quiet, otherwise they wouldn't be type of personality to make captain. Sorry but Seamie was right to have a go at him.

it was stupid to do what Gibbs did but a little slap like that would never have had the potential to injure Rodriguez so coleman should have been thanking him if anything as it made it 10 against 11. stupid of Gibbs, pathetic by Rodriguez and needless from coleman.

Father Hernandez · 21-09-2020 5:05pm

https://twitter.com/SheffieldUnited/status/1308073577820950534?s=20

Nice to see another Irishman captain a PL side.

Bridge93 · 21-09-2020 5:12pm

Coleman’s comment can of course be seen as needless. Decision made and ref not changing it so really no need for anyone to say anything.

So I don’t think he said it in any sort of defence of his teammate or protection or whatever. By the time of his voice it’s sound likes he just a bit bemused by a twat acting like a 10 year on a council estate

Great to see Egan captaining he’s earned it

johnnyryan89 · 21-09-2020 5:53pm

Father Hernandez wrote: »

https://twitter.com/SheffieldUnited/status/1308073577820950534?s=20

Nice to see another Irishman captain a PL side.

Interesting that Sharp and Norwood were dropped, I thought Jack O'Connell might have been third choice as Captain behind them, but good to see it fall to John Egan.

blinding · 21-09-2020 6:12pm

pgj2015 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr8F8pdJZPA

The way coleman reacted you would think Gibbs did a tackle like roy keane did on haaland or something.

I wonder why Rodriquez left a tiny little bit on Gibbs there in the first place . Had Gibbs already being trying to physically intimidate from playing to his full potential ( Rodriquez does struggle with physicality and it does hold him back )

Back in the Good ( possibly bad ) old days every team would have their enforcer (maybe a few ) to kind of even out this physicality i.e. If Gibbs was Bullying Rodriquez one of the enforcers would question whether this was a good course of action with a tackle that would put Gibbs up in the air.

This could have all sort of results = sometimes entertaining if ya liked that sort of thing.

Football could be more intriguing in those days. I will give an example. Once when Ireland were playing England at Wembley Brian Robson was putting Irishmen up in the air for fun for 20 minutes or there abouts. A young fella called Paul McGrath was observing this and Next thing Brian Robson hits an extraordinary height up in the air = = that was the end of Brian Robson bullying anyone in that Game.

There used to be little sub-plots in games in those days ! !

ShamoBuc · 21-09-2020 6:26pm

Bridge93 wrote: »

Great to see Egan captaining he’s earned it

Pity it only lasted 12 mins.

noodler · 21-09-2020 6:56pm

Fair play to Coleman.

Sticking up for his teammate. Love to see it as a captain.

POKERKING · 21-09-2020 7:21pm

Rory delaps son on the bench for city tonight, has he played youth at all for us?

henke · 21-09-2020 7:57pm

Good endorsement of his ability that Pep has him on the bench. Speculating but would imagine England is his first choice.

johnnyryan89 · 21-09-2020 8:16pm

henke wrote: »

Good endorsement of his ability that Pep has him on the bench. Speculating but would imagine England is his first choice.

Oh he's only playing for us if he can't make it with England, but everyone has him tipped to go places so chances are he'll be lining out for England.

Don't know how the new rules that were voted in change his qualification for us as he's only third generation too like Callum Robinson. So don't know if he needs to have his passport before playing competitively at any age like with Johansson.

NewMan1982 · 21-09-2020 11:16pm

I didn’t know Delap was English born.
I’m surprised how few caps he had considering he had 300 or so appearances in the top flight.

smelly sock · 21-09-2020 11:45pm

NewMan1982 wrote: »

I didn’t know Delap was English born.
I’m surprised how few caps he had considering he had 300 or so appearances in the top flight.

Wasnt overly good you see. A really handy utility player to have around a squad but we had mich better options during his prime.

PhilipsR · 22-09-2020 5:49am

The fact Trap never even considered having him in the squad for his throw ins alone still irks me to this day, not withstanding the fact he was a Premier League player at the time too.

Raoul · 22-09-2020 9:52am

I think I read somewhere that he would declare for England. Or maybe that was in a football manager game. Hopefully, I'm wrong.

NewMan1982 · 22-09-2020 10:26am

I thought his throw ins alone would be enough to convince trap considering we were essentially a set piece team under him.

Wuff Wuff · 22-09-2020 10:31am

NewMan1982 wrote: »

I thought his throw ins alone would be enough to convince trap considering we were essentially a set piece team under him.

shouldve been in ahead of Paul Green anyways

johnnyryan89 · 22-09-2020 11:39am

PhilipsR wrote: »

The fact Trap never even considered having him in the squad for his throw ins alone still irks me to this day, not withstanding the fact he was a Premier League player at the time too.

Have always said that young lads now days should be practicing long throws, add another string to your bow to stand out from others.

Will Fitz now at Waterford is someone with a long throw. Watching him play schoolboys in Limerick and he was this 5ft nothing tricky winger, few years later he makes his LOI debut for Limerick and out of nowhere he's launching missiles into the box from throws. It's criminal that we've never tried to take advantage of the long throws, especially now that you've someone like Duffy whose dangerous from set pieces.

22-09-2020 12:00pm

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Have always said that young lads now days should be practicing long throws, add another string to your bow to stand out from others.

Will Fitz now at Waterford is someone with a long throw. Watching him play schoolboys in Limerick and he was this 5ft nothing tricky winger, few years later he makes his LOI debut for Limerick and out of nowhere he's launching missiles into the box from throws. It's criminal that we've never tried to take advantage of the long throws, especially now that you've someone like Duffy whose dangerous from set pieces.

As someone who plays wing back, I don't think you can really throw the ball further by practicing.

You can improve technique but for length it's a mix of natural physique and gym work that would improve the distance.

The_Kew_Tour · 22-09-2020 12:20pm

Molumby looks like he going back to Millwall on loan..

Think its for best.

Wuff Wuff · 22-09-2020 12:58pm

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Molumby looks like he going back to Millwall on loan..

Think its for best.

hopefully he links up well with Parrott

noodler · 22-09-2020 1:57pm

gilberto_eire wrote: »

As someone who plays wing back, I don't think you can really throw the ball further by practicing.

You can improve technique but for length it's a mix of natural physique and gym work that would improve the distance.

As a CB/FB with (or who had) a long throw, I can also say that it really hurts after the third or fourth one.

I'm not sure it's a great thing to be doing to yourself regularly tbh.

eire4 · 22-09-2020 4:47pm

NewMan1982 wrote: »

I thought his throw ins alone would be enough to convince trap considering we were essentially a set piece team under him.

Totally agree. Considering how Trappatoni had us pay it was baffling Delap was not in the team or at least a regular off the bench.

smelly sock · 22-09-2020 8:05pm

sugarman wrote: »

Harsh decision, was pulling out of his man and the red was given for denial of a goal scoring opportunity but he was 25-30 yards out from goal with a keeper rushing out towards them. Forward still had a lot of work to do.

Yellow would have been fair and the linesman who had a better view of it than the ref seemed to think so.

Just looked at it now. He was the last man. Rule is straight forward in that sense. Had to go. Not sure why Wilder is giving out.

D.Q · 22-09-2020 8:22pm

Jack Byrne with a goal and 3 asts last night

smelly sock · 22-09-2020 8:26pm

D.Q wrote: »

Jack Byrne with a goal and 3 asts last night

Serious going. You'd like to see him giving a higher standard of ball a go but look if hes happy then fair enough.

D.Q · 22-09-2020 8:30pm

smelly sock wrote: »

Serious going. You'd like to see him giving a higher standard of ball a go but look if hes happy then fair enough.

Would love to see him get another go in England tbh

Still think he should be at the very least on the bench for Ireland.

dr.kenneth noisewater · 22-09-2020 8:33pm

Not looking to start another Celtic vs EFL debate but wonder would they suit Byrne? Usually on top most games and a step up from LOI

DuffleBag · 22-09-2020 9:04pm

sugarman wrote: »

On the topic of former players sons,

Graham Kavanaghs son, Calum Kavanagh, has signed a 3 year professional deal with Middlesbrough today. Hes a striker and plays with our u17s.

Also u19s centre back Mark McGuinness who has been training with Arsenals first team in recent weeks/months has joined Ipswich on loan.

Stephen Ireland's son on trial with Borrusia Dortmund at the moment. English u15/u16 capped though so wouldn't be expecting him to play with Ireland

Speaking of McGuinness, I would imagine he'll go the way of Grealish/Rice. Can't see him playing senior with Ireland if turns out to be any way good

eire4 · 22-09-2020 9:13pm

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Not looking to start another Celtic vs EFL debate but wonder would they suit Byrne? Usually on top most games and a step up from LOI

I get what your saying but not likely purely from the standpoint that Celtic have so many players that play in that position already.

henke · 22-09-2020 9:23pm

West Ham won comfortably but disappointingly no minutes for Coventry. I hope he is another who might in line for a loan move.

johnnyryan89 · 23-09-2020 10:57am

DuffleBag wrote: »

Speaking of McGuinness, I would imagine he'll go the way of Grealish/Rice. Can't see him playing senior with Ireland if turns out to be any way good

Yeah pretty sure he's already played for Englands youths, probably U15s but was never picked again because of injury problems. Think his parents are from Derry so he qualifies for us, the North and England.

Good to see Arsenal loaning him out. Ticks the boxes in the type of CB they've been crying out for for some time now. 6ft 4 and built like a brick ****house, could be a good replacement for Duffy in a few years if he makes it at senior level.

johnnyryan89 · 23-09-2020 11:11am

dr.kenneth noisewater wrote: »

Not looking to start another Celtic vs EFL debate but wonder would they suit Byrne? Usually on top most games and a step up from LOI

Ryan Manning could be someone worth monitoring for them, especially now they've started using wingbacks and he's available on a free next summer. Defensively there's questions about him but going forward his stats are impressive.

23-09-2020 11:21am

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

Ryan Manning could be someone worth monitoring for them, especially now they've started using wingbacks and he's available on a free next summer. Defensively there's questions about him but going forward his stats are impressive.

He played as an attacking central midfielder for Galway United and tbh he was the best player when he was 17.

Was unusual to see he transitioned to LB when he moved to England.

johnnyryan89 · 23-09-2020 11:31am

gilberto_eire wrote: »

He played as an attacking central midfielder for Galway United and tbh he was the best player when he was 17.

Was unusual to see he transitioned to LB when he moved to England.

Still played in midfield for QPR and Rotherham. QPR often played him wide left which probably lead to them trying him out at wingback and fullback. Last season was his first full season starting in that position but looks like he won't be playing this year unless he signs a new contract.

Republic of Ireland Team Talk/News/Rumours 2020/2021 - see Mod Note in OP [18/11/20]

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