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    #32
    Mimon
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    Annasopra wrote: »
    It happens. These type of incidents are not "any excuse" - They are homophobic and transphobic incidents targeting LGBTQ people


    https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/author-gavin-mccrea-victim-of-homophobic-attack-in-dublin-1.4170368?mode=amp

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/man-badly-beaten-in-suspected-homophobic-attack-by-dublin-youths-1.4053100?mode=amp


    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/ringsend-garda-homophobic-abuse-arrest-19710396

    https://gcn.ie/south-dublin-councillor-homophobic-voicemails/

    https://www.irishcentral.com/news/dublin-homophobic-attack

    https://lovindublin.com/amp/dublin/two-boys-brew-owners-open-up-homophobic-incident

    https://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/bigots-viciously-beat-man-transphobic-15324611

    https://www.98fm.com/podcasts/98fm-39-s-dublin-talks/transgender-man-opens-homophobic-attack-city-centre

    A lot of these attacks seem to be by uneducated yobs. Shows that we need to have more of an emphasis on law and order in this country. This sort of sh!t cannot be tolerated.


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    #33
    MadYaker
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    I can't tell if the OP is a joke or not.


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    #34
    Annasopra
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    Mimon wrote: »
    A lot of these attacks seem to be by uneducated yobs. Shows that we need to have more of an emphasis on law and order in this country. This sort of sh!t cannot be tolerated.

    Missing the point. The attacks target people because of their sexual orientation or gender identity and straight or cis people are much less likely to be targeted for attacks like this.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #35
    Ten of Swords
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    Posts should either offer constructive advice to the op or relay your own experiences. Sarcastic or dismissive posts are not helpful. Please read the forum charter before contributing

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    #36
    Dempo1
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    Very perplexing question to be honest with an almost impossible answer.

    As perplexing as asking

    Where is a Foreign National Friendly place to buy a Home?

    Where is an Ethnic Minority friendly place to buy a home?

    Where is Pet friendly place to buy a home?

    I'm not aware of any location in Ireland (thankfully) that actively and openly discriminates against anyone from buying a home for whatever reason and if they did, it would not end well from a legal perspective.

    Obviously no one can determine what a potential neighbour /community might be like, their views generally etc, Dare I say one could purchase a home beside the nicest people in the world and fall out over a fence or something as trivial as a garden Shrub.

    So, I'm utterly perplexed at the Op"s question and why the need for it, I'm an extremely open minded person, straight, purchased my home 20 years ago in rural Ireland and couldn't tell anyone my neighbors First, Middle or Last name but that doesn't stop me being pleasant, acknowledging them when passing etc.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #37
    Annasopra
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    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Very perplexing question to be honest with an almost impossible answer.

    As perplexing as asking

    Where is a Foreign National Friendly place to buy a Home?

    Where is an Ethnic Minority friendly place to buy a home?

    Where is Pet friendly place to buy a home?

    I'm not aware of any location in Ireland (thankfully) that actively and openly discriminates against anyone from buying a home for whatever reason and if they did, it would not end well from a legal perspective.

    Obviously no one can determine what a potential neighbour /community might be like, their views generally etc, Dare I say one could purchase a home beside the nicest people in the world and fall out over a fence or something as trivial as a garden Shrub.

    So, I'm utterly perplexed at the Op"s question and why the need for it, I'm an extremely open minded person, straight, purchased my home 20 years ago in rural Ireland and couldn't tell anyone my neighbors First, Middle or Last name but that doesn't stop me being pleasant, acknowledging them when passing etc.

    Of course there is nowhere in Ireland that actively and openly discriminates against anyone. I dont think anyone said there is. But that doesnt mean every community or town is the most friendliest open minded in the world either. I think its generally a fair question - are there places where a lot of LGBT+ people live that is safe - that is what the OP asked.

    I dont mean this negatively or in any pejorative way but have you considered this from the point of view someone different to you. I mean as a straight person you probably wont have experienced the homophobia/transphobia that LGBT+ people have or felt the genuine fears of being targets of a hate crime. Homophobic attacks do happen in Dublin as I have illustrated above and even last night on Pantibar - its arguable that because of the growing far right in this country that its getting worse. I think trying to think this through in the shoes of someone else might help to address some of the perplexment

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #38
    Heebie
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    MadYaker wrote:
    I can't tell if the OP is a joke or not.

    I'm not joking.


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    #39
    barneystinson
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    Heebie wrote: »
    I'm not joking.

    Are you also serious about only gay people being your peers? And if so, what does that make everyone else?


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    Sleeper12
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    barneystinson wrote: »
    Are you also serious about only gay people being your peers? And if so, what does that make everyone else?


    Straight? :)


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    #41
    barneystinson
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    Sleeper12 wrote: »
    Straight? :)

    Do you think gay and straight people aren't each other's peers?


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    Ten of Swords
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    barneystinson wrote: »
    Do you think gay and straight people aren't each other's peers?

    This is not the purpose of the thread, can we please get back on topic?

    This is the final reminder to all posters

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    #43
    Thelonious Monk
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    Ninthlife wrote: »
    Imagine the outrage if some one said they wanted to live in a 'straight ghetto'

    I live in one and it sucks from a social point of view. As in it's just families and settled people that I don't have much in common with, and probably not the type of place the OP is looking for, so I can see where they're coming from even though I'm not gay, just a single guy with no kids living in the straight family ghetto.

    I would imagine any of the more happening parts of Dublin is where you'd want to be OP as they'd be more likely to have more people like yourself - Phibsboro, city centre, Rathmines, etc. Problem is these places are way beyond normal people's pay grade!


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    #44
    spurious
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    I'm a gayer and lots of my gay friends live in Stoneybatter. They live all over the city of course but there would be a bit of a concentration in Stoneybatter. A good few in North Strand too. All over really.


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    #45
    honeyjo
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    I live in Tallaght. I'm not LGBTQIA but an ally. There's a Dublin South West LGBTQIA facebook group run by a local gay county counsellor. They organise events and outings.
    It seems to be a pretty friendly area.


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    #46
    eviltwin
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    Can’t understand anyone wanting to live in a very bland neighbourhood with only a certain demographic. IMHO what makes a place great is a mix of people. I’m sure wherever you rent will be fine.


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    Thelonious Monk
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    eviltwin wrote: »
    Can’t understand anyone wanting to live in a very bland neighbourhood with only a certain demographic. IMHO what makes a place great is a mix of people. I’m sure wherever you rent will be fine.

    Most of Dublin is semi D land with the same bland demographic that's the thing


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    #48
    eviltwin
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Most of Dublin is semi D land with the same bland demographic that's the thing

    I find those kinds of places soulless. Some people like that of course but I would find being surrounded by people just like me a bit dull.


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    #49
    Heebie
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    barneystinson wrote:
    Do you think gay and straight people aren't each other's peers?


    I'm many ways, yes. There are a lot of things **** growing up gay, and living an out lifestyle, that straight people cannot understand no matter how good an ally or friend they are.

    Whom your peers are really depends on the context you're operating in at any given moment.
    At work, the people on my team are my truest peers. The people on other teams in my department are truer peers than anyone in finance. They're technically peers, but not really. I wouldn't understand a damn thing about finance. They would understand very little, if any, of what my team does.


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    #50
    Heebie
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    eviltwin wrote:
    Can’t understand anyone wanting to live in a very bland neighbourhood with only a certain demographic. IMHO what makes a place great is a mix of people. I’m sure wherever you rent will be fine.

    Living in an all-gay neighborhood would probably be anything but bland.
    and... I'm not planning on renting, which is one of the reasons that I'm looking to be as well-informed as possible about where I want to buy


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    #51
    Heebie
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    Heebie wrote:
    There are a lot of things **** growing up gay

    The system censored the word "about" ‽


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    #52
    Barna77
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    Heebie wrote: »

    It would be easy of we had a "gay ghetto" here in Dublin, but e don't seem to

    I thought Stoneybatter (which I was very happy to move out from) and D8 where the ghettos


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    #53
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    Heebie wrote: »
    I'm many ways, yes. There are a lot of things **** growing up gay, and living an out lifestyle, that straight people cannot understand no matter how good an ally or friend they are.


    Can you elaborate? I'm not sure how who you're having sex with has any affect on your relationship with your neighbours?

    Why is there a need to live in a "gay friendly" area, when pretty much all of Ireland is 'gay friendly'? The people that are likely to call you gay slurs in ireland, are the same people that will take objection to you no matter what it is that they can pick on, whether it's calling you black, fat, tall, asian, etc. there's a cohort of scum in Ireland who've never gotten beyond "omg someone is different".

    But that's a small amount of the population, and they tend to be very much in the areas that people avoid living in general. I've never heard of anywhere in Ireland being anti-gay.

    <snip>

    We're supposed to be all mixing and getting on with each other, no matter what our personal beliefs or backgrounds are, but it seems many people would rather bubble-up and be as far removed from people who are different, as they can be.

    'Gay friendly' in a country where the vast, vast majority of people simply don't care about your sexual preference, is just, as I say above, silly.


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    #54
    John_Rambo
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Most of Dublin is semi D land with the same bland demographic that's the thing

    Jaysus, you live near me! We've plenty of gay couples, one of whose kids are friends with mine, lots of interesting non-nationals too.

    Just realised I could be bland!


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    JupiterKid
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    Some LGBT people want to fully integrate in their local suburban or commuter town community which might be full of similar age heterosexual couples with kids - and indeed same-sex couples with kids too... they may be involved in their residents’ association, school committee, local clean up group and such...

    Others want the single urban life of socialising, partying, the culture and the energy...

    Some again want the quiet life in a remote cottage in Connemara or Donegal.

    I know two gay guys a bit older than me who have opted to live on boats on the river Shannon.

    Each to their own! :)


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    #56
    Heebie
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    John_Rambo wrote:
    Jaysus, you live near me! We've plenty of gay couples, one of whose kids are friends with mine, lots of interesting non-nationals too.
    Just realised I could be bland!

    Where might this bland abode be?


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    #57
    Sam W
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    As an ethnic minority I fully understand your concern. The average Joe would say ‘I have never seen issues like xxx’, ‘they would pick on anyone’, or ‘there’s no evidence it’s race related’, but there are a lot. An inherent bias, a slight facial expression when they walk past you, when they changed their tone talking to their friend in the bar, when your child tells you some kids don’t want to play with them because their parents told them so… there’s a lot that the average people wouldn’t notice.

    As a few people have said, have a look at the media at which neighbourhoods appear most negatively, and absolutely avoid these areas. Decide on your budget, and find a few candidate places and have a walk with your partner in these areas in a Saturday afternoon. In some places you will feel you are being watched. In some places you will fee so uncomfortable to walk closely with your partner. In some places there are teenagers congregating and shouting or riding their bikes in a fanatic way.

    Once you made your choice, do some more googling and make sure the surrounding areas are safe as well. Last thing you want is some rivalry gangs fighting against each other right before your neighbourhood.

    Before we bought our house here, my girlfriend literally went through all major newspapers and got rid of all the areas that appear too often in the news. It is actually quite upsetting when you see how often anti social behaviours happen in certain areas, including some of those areas which used to be very nice. (Howth station is a very recent example.)


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