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OW Swim Events 2013

  • 12-12-2012 1:20pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭


    I would like to put a couple of these into the calender.

    Pencilled in already
    i3 5k as its local
    Glendalough or Logh Echnell 1.5k as I've heard good things

    I'd like another event in the 5-8k region (thinking Beginish Island) and then have a bash off a 10k event if there is one somewhere towards the end of the summer or autumn (Camlough?). Suggestions much appreciated?

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    The OW calender's are usually launched in May of that year.

    You can review the 2012 Munster OW swims in
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=78483968

    Once I get information on 2013, I'll post it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭rambutman


    Hi Shotgun!!!

    Long time no talk!!

    I did Warrior of the Sea this year (6k) from Rosses Point to Strandhill (http://warriorofthesea.wix.com/wots). Couldn't recommend it enough - it was tough going.

    There's a 10 k by the same crew in Lough Gill in August (www.loughgillswim.com)......it looked good but I didn't get to enter in-time.

    The two above are part of a county sligo open water swim league that makes up 4 swims.

    I was up in Camlough too - didn't do the longer swims but did the 750 k night swim. Didn't much like the look of the longer swims.........but then it was really sh1tty weather so hard to make a good call on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Something to keep in mind till next summer,

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQB2HZa9YM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭banjobongo


    I did the 10K Lough Gill swim this year and can highly recommend it, well organised and a lovely place to do a swim! I also did the i3 swim back in 2011, the 5K swim, and personally I did not think it was particularly well run so I would not do their swim again unfortunately.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    in sligo the latest as far as i've gathered.

    metalman swim series (0.5km - 2km) June 2013 Confirmed.
    lough gill 10km 10th August Likely but not 100%
    warrior of the sea 6km 20th July Confirmed.
    channel cup 2km 15/16th june from organiser.
    lighthouse swim 2.5km don't know if its running yet.

    there is a possibility of a 2km (or so) river swim but this is up in the air for the moment.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭griffin100


    Does anyone know when Warrior Of The Sea opens for entry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    griffin100 wrote: »
    Does anyone know when Warrior Of The Sea opens for entry?

    not yet but i know the organiser, he's been swamped with imquiries since last year so i'd say it will fill quickly so don't hang about when it does open. i've done it every year its been on it's a great swim, nice distance, tough conditions and a great place in strandhill to finish it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 287 ✭✭rambutman


    i got this in an email on Friday
    The 2013 Ocean FM Warrior of the Sea will take place on Saturday 20th July 2013 at 09:50am.

    By receiving this email you have been given priority registration for the 2013 WOTS swim. Priority registration will start at 9am on Saturday 12th January 2013 and will last for 24hrs. Priority places have been limited to 125 entrants. Registration will open to the general public at 9am on Sunday 13th January 2013.

    NOTE: We have had over five hundred enquiries for the 2013 swim and only 250 places are available, so we would advise you to be ready at 9am to avoid disappointment.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,361 ✭✭✭Kurt Godel


    I just noticed the date for the Beginish Swim off Valentia Island in Kerry is up on the Valentia Tri Club website.

    *** DATE FOR 2013 *** DATE AND TIME FOR BEGINISH ISLAND SWIM 2013 is SATURDAY 20th JULY – START TIME 13:50 (High Tide 15:20).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    Just a quick idea, could we create table similar to swim log, that would sort itself by date, with columns: Date, County, Place, What, Link?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    ThOnda wrote: »
    Just a quick idea, could we create table similar to swim log, that would sort itself by date, with columns: Date, County, Place, What, Link?

    We could create a Google spread sheet, with a similar format to the 2012 Munster table;

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0An5W7tT7YqqBdFRndlB0ZU9YWi1HSEc0aU9fLWk5WEE#gid=1


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭OuterBombie


    Howdy,

    Thanks for the heads up on the "Warrior of the Sea" event, just entered it online.

    Just need to organise sunshine, small swell for weekend and glassy conditions, at least the crisp cool pints will take care of themselves :)

    OB.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,103 ✭✭✭promethius


    Howdy,

    Thanks for the heads up on the "Warrior of the Sea" event, just entered it online.

    Just need to organise sunshine, small swell for weekend and glassy conditions, at least the crisp cool pints will take care of themselves :)

    OB.

    i've done it three times. it's a bit special like they say in football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,699 ✭✭✭ThOnda


    Google docs, sounds great.

    6km in the sea? Darn, that is tempting. That would require a bit of change in training, like to begin any training at all. And in open water too. Still tempting...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,208 ✭✭✭shotgunmcos


    Trying to choose between Beginish Island and Warrior of the sea. Both 6k and on the same day. Dilemma aside, I cannot seem to register for either. Anyone else having this issue?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭swimforever


    Beginish isn't open yet, the entry link is for last year's event so it doesn't work any more.

    The Munster swim calendar will be out in a couple of months time, the organisers are sorting dates and tides and things at the moment. The best place to find information on that is on the Sandycove website, www.sandycoveswimmers.com.

    A number of swims do have dates already:
    - the Vibes and Scribes Lee Swim (2,000m) is on Saturday, July 6th
    - Loch Allua (8km) is on Sunday, July 7th, entries are open here
    - the Edge Sports Sandycove Island Challenge (1,700m) is on Saturday September 7th


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Ah rats, love doing the Sandycove Kinsale swim, but The Dun Laoghaire Harbour swim in on the 8th September.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭swimforever


    Yes, it's a pity-we did talk to someone in Leinster Sea Swimming when we set the date because we were hoping they wouldn't clash. Unfortunately tides are conspiring against us this year! We looked at the possibility of having Sandycove later in the month and but it just doesn't work-the only real option was late in the evening on the 21st (HT is 19:20) and it's getting too cold in the evenings at that stage-particularly at Sandycove where the sun disappears behind the hills early.

    It's still possible to do both...you'd just have to miss out on the session in Kinsale after the swim ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Now is that you L that I was talking to at Bar last September about when the Liffey was on or The Harbour because it might clash with Kinsale

    I know it's doable but love having the weekend down there and the session afterwards....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    Would love to do the Loch Allua but its the day after the Ring of Kerry cycle. Would be too sore after the feed of pints!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 131 ✭✭swimforever


    mad m wrote: »
    Now is that you L that I was talking to at Bar last September about when the Liffey was on or The Harbour because it might clash with Kinsale

    Yes it probably was! I don't remember, but all that day is just a blur for me because I had so much going on. Now I'm trying to figure out who you are!!

    I did talk to the rest of the committee after about trying to keep them apart. Unfortunately there are only a small number of possible weekends and we're all bound by the tides. The Leinster committee said that they'd take our date into consideration when they were deciding on the Dun Laoghaire date (we decided our date soon after the 2012 event) but I'd say that they were the same as us-the other options just didn't work. Oh well, hopefully the moon will be kinder to us all next year!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,003 ✭✭✭martin6651


    Galway Bay swim is set for 27th July this year have no starting time yet. I hope to finish it this year and hope that conditions are better than last year.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,742 ✭✭✭ultraman1




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,371 ✭✭✭banjobongo


    I signed up for the Skelligs swim last year and it was postponed due to swells....anybody know when it might be held this year?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    Cuan to Ventry, Dingle, Kerry.
    Sunday June 23rd.
    Distance 2km and 4km. Wetsuits and togs welcome.

    http://www.facebook.com/events/282433451887526/?fref=ts

    This was my very first OW swim two years ago and after it I got the bug!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1




  • Registered Users Posts: 40 iarmhi1975


    I realise that this swim might be far too short for many of you but I wanted to let you know about it anyway. A group of triathletes got together last year and organised a run where we tried to bring good organisation to bear as well as a great price. Have a look at the link below to see what people thought of our efforts.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=80049447

    This year we are bringing back the Shannon Mile Swim. It will be staged right in the centre of Athlone two weeks before triAthlone beginning at 6pm. We are limiting the places to 300 which would be 6 waves of 50 people. Registration opened two weeks ago and the response has been very good so we are expecting a really good atmosphere and some great swimmers.

    Wetsuit is not compulsory and if the numbers are there we will have a non wetsuit wave.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    2km OW swim in Ballyheigue, Kerry. 15th June.
    Did it two years ago. Nice finish in the surf!!

    http://www.ballyheigue.ie/sliptoshore


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Here is a Draft of 2013 Leinster Open sea races..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭ocisorrenta


    mad m wrote: »
    Here is a Draft of 2013 Leinster Open sea races..

    Mad_m, having never done these before, what are the distances?
    Particularly Curracloe and Killiney...
    Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    mad m wrote: »
    Here is a Draft of 2013 Leinster Open sea races..

    Looks like a cold start.

    Dont think Killiney ever gets warm and Bray in early June...Brrrrrrrrr


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    Mad_m, having never done these before, what are the distances?
    Particularly Curracloe and Killiney...
    Cheers

    Killiney probably about 1200 metres but the 1st race in Killiney will be hard as the tide will be flowing south to north quite strongly.

    Unless of course they swim one way and walk back or walk down the beach and swim back with the tide.

    Curracloe not sure.

    If you havent done these swims before you should be comfortable swimming 1600 metres non stop and being able to spend 30 minutes in the sea in fairly cold water. Try and get in in middle of May to know what to expect..Sea is especially cold at the moment with the weather but not sure how much warmer (less cold) it will be come early June..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 237 ✭✭ocisorrenta


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Killiney probably about 1200 metres but the 1st race in Killiney will be hard as the tide will be flowing south to north quite strongly.

    Unless of course they swim one way and walk back or walk down the beach and swim back with the tide.

    Curracloe not sure.

    If you havent done these swims before you should be comfortable swimming 1600 metres non stop and being able to spend 30 minutes in the sea in fairly cold water. Try and get in in middle of May to know what to expect..Sea is especially cold at the moment with the weather but not sure how much warmer (less cold) it will be come early June..

    Does that meant that all the swims are around the mile mark with the odd 5km and 10km?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    Does that meant that all the swims are around the mile mark with the odd 5km and 10km?

    Yes. Pretty much.

    Some are less than a mile especially the early season ones. A couple are around 2k and then the longer ones as you describe..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Well Killiney anytime of the year is cold. Last year it was a race down to the buoy, right at buoy and then over to another buoy then back towards last one, so a triangle. Think though it will be around 1.2k but its up to the club on the day. From memory I flew down but was hard getting back.

    Bray will be cold, for some reason I can't see them starting from Harbour like they normally do because of the water temp. I reckon they might do a running start from beach near Harbour and then down towards Bray head.

    Curracloe was a hard swim, think it was 1.8k but felt more like 2k,took me 31mins last year. Hard going up but flew down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Yes. Pretty much.

    Some are less than a mile especially the early season ones. A couple are around 2k and then the longer ones as you describe..

    It's a pity they wouldn't give an indication of those distances in the calendar. It's almost like they don't want new swimmers, but that can't be true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,988 ✭✭✭Seaswimmer


    pc11 wrote: »
    It's a pity they wouldn't give an indication of those distances in the calendar. It's almost like they don't want new swimmers, but that can't be true.

    Well very few of them have set distances bar maybe the Harbour, Eddie Heron, the Bull Wall races and Wicklow 3K. It depends where they drop the buoys on the day for most of them.

    Also to a cetain extent the distances can be misleading. I have often done the Wicklow 3K in a little over 30 minutes with a strong tide whereas 1200 metres in rough weather around South Wall could be nearer 40 minutes for me. I think for most people if they can comfortably spend 35 -40 minutes in the sea then they will easily be able for all but the 5K and longer races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    Seaswimmer wrote: »
    Well very few of them have set distances bar maybe the Harbour, Eddie Heron, the Bull Wall races and Wicklow 3K. It depends where they drop the buoys on the day for most of them.

    Also to a cetain extent the distances can be misleading. I have often done the Wicklow 3K in a little over 30 minutes with a strong tide whereas 1200 metres in rough weather around South Wall could be nearer 40 minutes for me. I think for most people if they can comfortably spend 35 -40 minutes in the sea then they will easily be able for all but the 5K and longer races.

    People aren't stupid, they know about the tides and rough conditions. Some indication should be given of the approx distance or at least the level of ability needed. How else would a new swimmer have the slightest idea whether they can even attempt it? I don't see why the Leinster association can't understand this.

    And just how would we know WHICH are the 5k and longer races? It's not like the calendar tells you.

    This comes up regularly, many people ask about the distances. At this stage, it's clearly a wilful disregard for anyone but experienced swimmers who already know the story.

    To the clubs: why not organise a beginner race with a short distance and an encouraging and open attitude? It could be held just before the main race, it would take say 10/15 minutes and everything is already in place.

    Crazy, I know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    pc11 wrote: »
    How else would a new swimmer have the slightest idea whether they can even attempt it?
    New swimmers have to be registered with a club, I know that most clubs will get to know a swimmer and his abilities.
    And just how would we know WHICH are the 5k and longer races? It's not like the calendar tells you.
    The Calendar I posted is a draft, once its put on the website it will tell you. But it does say it on the calendar if you look closer
    This comes up regularly, many people ask about the distances. At this stage, it's clearly a wilful disregard for anyone but experienced swimmers who already know the story.
    They have stated on Leinster open sea website. http://leinsteropensea.ie/?page_id=61


    To the clubs: why not organise a beginner race with a short distance and an encouraging and open attitude? It could be held just before the main race, it would take say 10/15 minutes and everything is already in place.
    Crazy, I know.
    Some clubs like Dublin swimming club have had two meetings inviting new swimmers to go along, its on their website I think. They organize days to meet up and get new swimmers into the sea and help them along. Templeogue swimming club is organizing something like this also. Also some clubs have organized short sea swim's amongst their younger swimmers before a race. Lets not forget that all of these swims rely on people from their club to help out. Some clubs have huge numbers while other clubs have only a handful of members. If it wasn't for the Civil Defense and club members most if not all of these swims wouldn't go ahead. Before my club swim goes ahead, myself and another member has to visit the site a day before the race, check the place for hazards,any glass around the area etc. Then get there a good few hours before to setup stuff. We have to contact local sailing clubs to let them know a race is on, Garda, Coast guard. Remember all this is done on voluntary basis. It takes a lot of organizing believe me just for the main races.




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    mad m wrote: »
    New swimmers have to be registered with a club, I know that most clubs will get to know a swimmer and his abilities.

    Again, all knowledge is reserved for the insider. It's just not the way it should be, sorry. Why not try to accommodate all? It comes across as totally insular thinking. Why would you resist the regular calls for more information to be published? We're asking out of genuine interest. Help us out here.
    mad m wrote: »
    The Calendar I posted is a draft, once its put on the website it will tell you. But it does say it on the calendar if you look closer

    Do you mean the couple of races that state a distance? But, how would I know the distance of any of the other races.
    mad m wrote: »
    They have stated on Leinster open sea website. http://leinsteropensea.ie/?page_id=61

    I'm not clear what you mean is stated there? DO you mean distance? All it says is a minimum distance.


    mad m wrote: »
    Some clubs like Dublin swimming club have had two meetings inviting new swimmers to go along, its on their website I think. They organize days to meet up and get new swimmers into the sea and help them along. Templeogue swimming club is organizing something like this also. Also some clubs have organized short sea swim's amongst their younger swimmers before a race. Lets not forget that all of these swims rely on people from their club to help out. Some clubs have huge numbers while other clubs have only a handful of members. If it wasn't for the Civil Defense and club members most if not all of these swims wouldn't go ahead. Before my club swim goes ahead, myself and another member has to visit the site a day before the race, check the place for hazards,any glass around the area etc. Then get there a good few hours before to setup stuff. We have to contact local sailing clubs to let them know a race is on, Garda, Coast guard. Remember all this is done on voluntary basis. It takes a lot of organizing believe me just for the main races.



    To be fair, I fully appreciate what organising a race is like, no question of that. I know how hard people work for sports events. But, I do think it would be quite feasible to add some short races to many events. And if there are any such events, I welcome that. But, they're not exactly apparent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    To be honest Pc11, there is a lot at play with a race, to have a beginners race before hand the Civil Defense (3 boats minimum) would have to be there. They give up their weekends to facilitate us. Also the tide has a lot to do with it. The tides this year aren't great. Some swims are on late in the evening on a Sunday.

    I know its not doable but there is a lot of things to consider. I know there was talk of doing something like having a beginners race before hand. Also I want to point out the Open Sea committee (which i want to state, I'm not on) work tirelessly also to get these swims organized.

    As i said some clubs have had meetings to introduce new swimmers to open sea swimming, they have organized meet ups with them during the months of May to dip their toes etc.

    The Open Sea Committee say a 1500meter minimum, but its up to the club on the day to ask the Civil Defense where to place the Buoys that are provided by the Open Sea Committee. Sometimes its shorter than 1500meters due to reasons on the day. The first few races could be around 1200 meters because of the cold temps during June. Actually the second race in Bray is from the Harbour down towards Bray head. Its a Mile (Kilmartin Cup), but as I said because of the temps in June they may shorten it due to safety reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    @Pc11

    Now there's a coincidence....Looks like the Final Calendar and guidelines just uploaded on Leinster Open Sea website...

    Have a look.

    http://leinsteropensea.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Race-Distance-20131.pdf

    http://leinsteropensea.ie/?page_id=7


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭pc11


    mad m wrote: »
    @Pc11

    Now there's a coincidence....Looks like the Final Calendar and guidelines just uploaded on Leinster Open Sea website...

    Have a look.

    http://leinsteropensea.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Race-Distance-20131.pdf

    http://leinsteropensea.ie/?page_id=7

    Thanks Mad_m, that is certainly more info than I've seen before. And I welcome the mention of novice races. Do you know if you need to be a swim club member for these also?

    Again let me repeat I don't question the work of all involved. I have organised races and it's hard work for sure.

    It's just that it seems the thinking and approach is insular and oriented to insiders, but there are many people out there who might be tempted into OW swimming by a more open approach. We shouldn't have to beg every year for simple distance information. The fact that people ask for this all the time and yet it's slow to be provided shows a certain resistance and lack of welcome to newbies. Perhaps the swimming associations don't actually want newcomers, but that would be a sad state of affairs.

    I'm well aware it's a different sport, but coming from an athletics background, it's seems so odd not to publish the distance of an event long in advance.

    Let me again emphasise that this is meant to be constructive criticism, it's from someone who wants to help make life easier and who is genuinely interested. I don't just mean to knock, but to propose specific improvements.

    Thanks for the info.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    Id say without question because of insurance purposes, you would have to be with a swim club and signed up to swim Ireland for any novice races.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    @mad_m, is their per-registration for this Leinster OW swims or do you just rock up on the day and sign on? I'll be around a few of these weekends so would like to sample these swims!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 647 ✭✭✭Freddio


    You'll need a Swim Ireland number and possibly need to be a member of a club (not necessarily a Leinster club) and 10 euro on the day. they will give you a handicap beforehand and they usually don't allow you to claim a victory on your first few races because of fast swimmers suddenly turning up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,006 ✭✭✭mad m


    okane1 wrote: »
    @mad_m, is their per-registration for this Leinster OW swims or do you just rock up on the day and sign on? I'll be around a few of these weekends so would like to sample these swims!!

    Yeah but as Freddio said, but your probably up to date, if not give me a pm and ill get you sorted.

    Also this year you will have to complete 4 races before you can win a race, this is what the Open Sea Committee said in the calendar meeting, you will however get second if you get first if you know what I mean...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,148 ✭✭✭okane1


    mad m wrote: »
    Yeah but as Freddio said, but your probably up to date, if not give me a pm and ill get you sorted.

    Also this year you will have to complete 4 races before you can win a race, this is what the Open Sea Committee said in the calendar meeting, you will however get second if you get first if you know what I mean...

    Thanks. I'm with SI and a swimming club, so no issue there. Don't mind the hole turning up new and winning or not winning! I understand where the committee is coming from.

    Just like to get in the Irish sea and compare these races to the Munster ones.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24 Mermaria


    pc11 wrote: »
    Again, all knowledge is reserved for the insider.......
    ......

    To be fair, I fully appreciate what organising a race is like, no question of that. I know how hard people work for sports events. But, I do think it would be quite feasible to add some short races to many events. And if there are any such events, I welcome that. But, they're not exactly apparent.

    ILDSA has a short race for beginners. It's very safe, fun and wetsuit allowed. Drop them a line.

    Leinster OW Swims organised by SI Clubs doesn't follow any FINA rules and regulation, including some related with swimmers safety. Check it on their website.

    There're more open water swim out there nicer and safer for giving a try and you even didn't need to sign in a SC and SI or ILDSA

    Hope have helped you


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