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Private busses clamp down on free passes?

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  • #52
    mickydoomsux
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,290 ✭✭✭mickydoomsux


    foggy_lad wrote: »
    edit, drug addiction is not considered a proscribed illness or a disability but the secondary conditions like depression, psychosis paranoia schizophrenia etc which addiction causes are a disability

    Self-inflicted.

    I don't like the idea of my tax going toward Anto having free travel so he can go and shoplift in Carlow for the day to feed his weakness without having to pay his bus fare.


  • #53
    Polar101
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,896 ✭✭✭Polar101


    call the police wrote: »
    this was on rte 8 days ago:

    http://www.rte.ie/news/2008/0805/travel.html

    I wouldn't really hold my breath, since that article was from August 2008.


  • #54
    call the police
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭call the police


    Polar101 wrote: »
    I wouldn't really hold my breath, since that article was from August 2008.

    irish time article on this on 27 august 2010: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0827/1224277687917.html

    i expect the IMF will insist the new public services card is rolled out ASAP


  • #55
    highlydebased
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,470 ✭✭✭highlydebased


    call the police wrote: »
    irish time article on this on 27 august 2010: http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/0827/1224277687917.html

    i expect the IMF will insist the new public services card is rolled out ASAP


    To my knowledge the IMF cant "insist" or direct anything happens.


  • #56
    call the police
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭call the police


    we're sailing into unknown terriority with the IMF,
    but surely anything to reduce fraud at this time is vital to us all,
    if the IMF don't insist on this, we the genuine taxpayer - commutter should insist,
    otherwise whats the point :confused:


  • #57
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Neon-Circles wrote: »
    To my knowledge the IMF cant "insist" or direct anything happens.

    Mussolini made the trains run on time, but I can't see the IMF being quite that powerful! :pac:


  • #58
    call the police
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭call the police


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Mussolini made the trains run on time, but I can't see the IMF being quite that powerful! :pac:

    very good,
    do you know what, i'm going to buy a free travel pass, anyone know where i can get one, ?
    what characteristic should i adopt when i show it to the bus driver


  • #59
    mikemac
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,986 ✭✭✭✭mikemac


    There are days on my Dublin bus 78A when there are more people getting on with their battered piece of cardboard then people paying fares.
    And I don't mean pensioners but younger people.

    It can't be sustainable.


  • #60
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    i'm going to buy a free travel pass, anyone know where i can get one, ?
    what characteristic should i adopt when i show it to the bus driver

    Well CtP,going on the Prime Time Investigates "How to" documentary,the best locations are Pubs in and around the Bridewell and Fruit Market area.

    It appears that €100 is the going rate for a standard pass,although there may be "Special Offer" packages with a bundle of Drivers Licence/Free Travel Pass for €150.

    If you contact the Prime Time Investigates production at RTE,Montrose,Donnybrook,Dublin 4 I`m sure they will forward your enquiry to the Customer Service of the enterprise concerned.

    As for characteristic to be adopted...could`nt be simpler...just be in a permanent hurry,quick flash of the bit of card to the disinterested driver and your done.

    It`s advisable if your a Dubliner,to get the oul Photo ID done,as it throws the REALLY proffessional Drivers off the scent.

    And whatever you do,always be ready to Leg-It at a seconds notice....always have an escape route !


    Mind you the above may all be superflouous in a fortnight as it appears that the DSP budget will be in for at least a 20% cut in the areas of "Additional Benefits" of which the "Free" Pass would be but one.

    I would suggest that a 50c or €1 fare will be introduced for ALL DSP Free Travel Scheme mambers,as it will be cheaper than withdrawing and reissuing the actual document (Loose description :rolleyes: )


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



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  • #61
    AlekSmart
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭AlekSmart


    It can't be sustainable.

    Feelingstressed,It has`nt been "sustainable" for decades now.

    Just a reflection of the Country`s administration as a whole really......

    Free-Stuff handed out with absolutely NO ongoing monitoring or verification and even less knowledge of the actual cost of providing whatever "Stuff "was the subject of the "Scheme".

    Neither the DSP or CIE or indeed any Public Transport Operator has any idea of exactly how exposed they are to providing their services free to those with "entitlement" to them.

    A total and complete sham with the inevitable conclusion being the total collapse of the entire system which will see the genuine cases suffer.

    The modern Republic of Ireland was run apparently along "Magic Kingdom" lines which in reality we needed a Walt Disney to preside over rather than a Bertie Aherne !!!!!


    Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, and one by one.

    Charles Mackay (1812-1889)



  • #62
    call the police
    Closed Accounts Posts: 40 ✭call the police


    AlekSmart wrote: »
    Well CtP,going on the Prime Time Investigates "How to" documentary,the best locations are Pubs in and around the Bridewell and Fruit Market area.

    It appears that €100 is the going rate for a standard pass,although there may be "Special Offer" packages with a bundle of Drivers Licence/Free Travel Pass for €150.

    Mind you the above may all be superflouous in a fortnight as it appears that the DSP budget will be in for at least a 20% cut in the areas of "Additional Benefits" of which the "Free" Pass would be but one.

    I would suggest that a 50c or €1 fare will be introduced for ALL DSP Free Travel Scheme mambers,as it will be cheaper than withdrawing and reissuing the actual document (Loose description :rolleyes:)

    i saw that prime time show

    "cheaper than withdrawing and reissuing the actual document", do you mean the public service free travel card,
    it looks like the money is already spent and those cards are ready to roll, i don't think the government will do another "electronic voting machine" job on this.
    http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...277687917.html


  • #63
    foggy_lad
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,373 ✭✭✭✭foggy_lad


    There are probably as many parking permits forged and sold as free travel passes as every space in Irish Rail car parks seems to be occupied these days.

    I always thought this disabled parking permit was only a permit and that the parking still had to be paid for except in local authority car parks?

    So why do Irish Rail not clamp down on the people using disabled parking spaces free?


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