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CNN Reporter "assaults" White House intern

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 542 ✭✭✭dont bother


    Why do people care so much about the bull sh*t, nothing to do with policy, that surrounds the American presidency, all the way over there in America?

    Just watch the West Wing lads and stop filling boards with Trump w*nkathons.

    EXACTLY!!!!

    people so quick to be calm and say "dont feed the troll"? yet they feed the biggest troll of all - trump! ridiculous!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    Not a trump fan but the way the reporter conducted himself was horrible.
    Liberals will shout and scream for everyone’s rights except the rights of those they don’t like.

    How do you expect reporters to act?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 Iamlegend24


    Come on he clearly shoves her away. Add in the fact that she was embarrassed in front of the whole world so im sure there is some sort of pysch affect that she will have to overcome

    The intern had no problem bull dozing her way over to grab the mic....she most certainly invaded his personal space whilst trying to shut him up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,237 ✭✭✭mcmoustache


    Ipso wrote: »
    Come on, you’re looking at it through the biased filter of reality.

    Exactly. You can't trust reality - it has a well documented liberal bias.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,482 ✭✭✭Gimme A Pound


    i just think that when we are all quick enough to call out "trolling" or "dont feed the troll" etc online, then why not use the same logic in this situation?

    no i have a problem with gimps wearing maga hats too - but lets be honest here, that isnt half as widespread as the bandwagonry of "hating trump" - why? because some horrible vacuous millionaire celebrity told you to on an instagram story?

    get real - we live in ireland, not the usa.

    i dont care for views on foreign politics unless it directly affects me, here in ireland, to some degree.
    There's nothing untoward about having an interest in something that doesn't affect you. E.g. history, geography of far-flung places, and American policy can have a knock-on global effect.

    Also, why is it just a case of hating Trump? I am often indifferent to him, occasionally I find myself even agreeing with him, and at other times I object to what he says or does. I can think for myself and obviously people are easily able to explain why they have a problem with Trump and don't need to be told by a millionaire on Instagram. Silly pot shot. I don't follow any "celebs" on any social media channel.

    Sometimes people do overblow things Trump says or does but here is an example of his administration being extremely underhanded and hypocritical and that is not good in a democracy.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,646 ✭✭✭✭qo2cj1dsne8y4k


    megaten wrote: »
    How do you expect reporters to act?
    The same way as if they were standing in front of Obama. Like it or not, he’s the elected president of the land of the free. Having a bit of respect for the president of the country isn’t too much to ask and by the sounds of it, it’s not acostas first rodeo


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    get real - we live in ireland, not the usa.

    i dont care for views on foreign politics unless it directly affects me, here in ireland, to some degree.

    Er ... given the number of Irish people working at US multinationals, Trump's policies on trade and taxes could directly affect many people in the country.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,897 ✭✭✭megaten


    The same way as if they were standing in front of Obama. Like it or not, he’s the elected president of the land of the free. Having a bit of respect for the president of the country isn’t too much to ask and by the sounds of it, it’s not acostas first rodeo

    Obama isn't the one accusing them of inciting violence. Would you rather they coddle him like child?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,236 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The same way as if they were standing in front of Obama. Like it or not, he’s the elected president of the land of the free. Having a bit of respect for the president of the country isn’t too much to ask and by the sounds of it, it’s not acostas first rodeo

    Difference being, Obama treated the media with respect. Respect isn't something that you give to someone just because they're elected to a position, you can respect the office and title without respecting the man. Trump has shown nothing but disdain for the media who for the very most part are reporting the news factually as they should. Trump's disdain for the media because of this has led to a lot of animosity towards journalists and media, not to mention the pipe bomb sent to CNN specifically.

    Respect is earned, not elected. Trump has done little to earn the respect of the media.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Penn wrote: »
    Difference being, Obama treated the media with respect. Respect isn't something that you give to someone just because they're elected to a position, you can respect the office and title without respecting the man. Trump has shown nothing but disdain for the media who for the very most part are reporting the news factually as they should. Trump's disdain for the media because of this has led to a lot of animosity towards journalists and media, not to mention the pipe bomb sent to CNN specifically.

    Respect is earned, not elected. Trump has done little to earn the respect of the media.

    Ultimately it comes down to character. Trump is a bullsh1tter of the highest order (and it's hilarious that many of his supporters claim to be fed up with dishonest politicians), has a massive ego, is really thin skinned and can't stand criticism.
    Think the worse pub bore you have ever encountered and turn him up to 11.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,317 ✭✭✭emo72


    why put an intern in the firing line? why are they the ones in the crowd trying to grab mics away from reporters? why is anyone trying to grab mics away from reporters?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Obama wasnt treated the way Trump is.

    All this nostalgia back to Obamas time in power, what has he to show for his achievements.

    He didnt even get a good health care plan through and this is what most Americans are concerned about. They arent concerned about what Trump says about Hondurans coming to the border but if they think this Hondurans are going to have to be maintained by the State then they will agree with Trump. The wealthier Americans who have health insurance and have their pensions sorted wont get too exercised by immigration, immigrants arent going to be living in their areas and nor are they going to affect access to health insurance.

    Trump is right about the immigration, every country needs to protect its borders and no matter how much the media beat the drum about diversity when people go to the polls they will vote for someone who will be strong on illegal immigration and thats Trump.

    That CNN reporter was way out of line, he should have handed the mic over, the room was full of reporters and they all probably wanted to speak. He should apologise to that intern too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    The same way as if they were standing in front of Obama. Like it or not, he’s the elected president of the land of the free. Having a bit of respect for the president of the country isn’t too much to ask and by the sounds of it, it’s not acostas first rodeo

    Their job is to hold him to account. There was nothing disrespectful about the way the reporter spoke to Trump. He's such an overtly weird, crass, over-the-top, clownish figure, there's almost something too respectful about the way people address him. Respect should be earned, and not merely bestowed upon someone because of the office they hold, regardless of how they conduct themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,348 ✭✭✭✭ricero


    Assault or no assault the reporter was out of line and showed no respect to The Donald.

    He should of gave up the microphone when prompted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,325 ✭✭✭xi5yvm0owc1s2b


    The same way as if they were standing in front of Obama.

    I would not want the media behaving as they did towards Obama. They were far too deferential to him and basically let him off for eight years giving easy answers to softball questions. Jim Acosta to Obama:

    I wanted to ask you about what some people are calling 'your best week ever' last week. You had two Supreme Court decisions supportive of the Affordable Care Act and of gay rights. You also delivered a speech down in Charleston that was pretty warmly received. It seems that you've built up some political capital for the remaining months of your presidency. I'm curious, how you want to use it?

    An ass-kissing journalist gushing over the president's "best week ever" is not doing his job, and yet this was the kind of thing we came to expect during Obama's presidency. I expect reporters to ask hard-hitting and incisive questions that make politicians justify their decisions. They shouldn't be disrespectful, but they should do their jobs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,819 ✭✭✭Fann Linn


    megaten wrote: »
    How do you expect reporters to act?


    Like RTE reporters.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    tretorn wrote: »
    Obama wasnt treated the way Trump is.

    All this nostalgia back to Obamas time in power, what has he to show for his achievements.

    He didnt even get a good health care plan through and this is what most Americans are concerned about. They arent concerned about what Trump says about Hondurans coming to the border but if they think this Hondurans are going to have to be maintained by the State then they will agree with Trump. The wealthier Americans who have health insurance and have their pensions sorted wont get too exercised by immigration, immigrants arent going to be living in their areas and nor are they going to affect access to health insurance.

    Trump is right about the immigration, every country needs to protect its borders and no matter how much the media beat the drum about diversity when people go to the polls they will vote for someone who will be strong on illegal immigration and thats Trump.

    That CNN reporter was way out of line, he should have handed the mic over, the room was full of reporters and they all probably wanted to speak. He should apologise to that intern too.

    You've got bad memory.
    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trumps-history-raising-birther-questions-president-obama/story?id=33861832


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    2016: "I'd love to punch that protestor in the face. In the old days, he'd be carried out on a stretcher"

    2018: "Assault by Acosta on a poor little female intern! He's a terrible nasty rude person"


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    ricero wrote: »
    Assault or no assault the reporter was out of line and showed no respect to The Donald.

    He should of gave up the microphone when prompted.


    He doesn't deserve respect. He and Saunders lie to reporters all the time. It's the reporters job to ask questions to hold the government to account and that's all he was doing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    tretorn wrote: »
    Trump is right about the immigration, every country needs to protect its borders and no matter how much the media beat the drum about diversity when people go to the polls they will vote for someone who will be strong on illegal immigration and thats Trump.

    The irony being that Trump couldn't give a flying fúck about illegals. Like every bit of gibberish that comes out of his mouth, it's simply a method of stoking his supporters, priming them for the next time they'll be needed. Why do you think he spends so much time campaigning as opposed to actually....... doing his job.
    The caravan is already long forgotten, just like this wall he loved talking about.

    Trump's one and only interest is lining his families pockets and staying out of prison long enough to get as much as possible. That's all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,002 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Was there any mention of the murders of those people in the bar in California?

    NO.

    Anyway, forget it, this administration is a total joke. No wonder Trump is palsy walsy with Kim john uh oh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,547 ✭✭✭Agricola


    He doesn't deserve respect. He and Saunders lie to reporters all the time. It's the reporters job to ask questions to hold the government to account and that's all he was doing.

    Exactly. If anything the WH press pack are simpering enablers. All this "Thank you Mr. President, oh thank you for choosing me to address you Sir"
    It's pathetic, they treat him like a monarch. Im wondering will they start bowing soon.

    The whole questioning pantomime with Sanders and Trump (on the rare occasion he shows up) is just that, a pantomime. Completely controlled and orchestrated by the WH. But then again, they really don't care about actually holding him to account, if they get a good soundbite or a bit of controversy, thats clicks and social media chatter, and that's all they want.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ricero wrote: »
    Assault or no assault the reporter was out of line and showed no respect to The Donald.

    He should of gave up the microphone when prompted.

    His job isn't to respect Trump. Not unless he works for fox in which case his job would be to grovel.

    He's a reporter, reporters ask questions. Trump avoids answering questions, so of course the guy has to push Trump for answers.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It would make more sense to have white house reporters for life than judges.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    Agricola wrote: »
    The irony being that Trump couldn't give a flying fúck about illegals. Like every bit of gibberish that comes out of his mouth, it's simply a method of stoking his supporters, priming them for the next time they'll be needed. Why do you think he spends so much time campaigning as opposed to actually....... doing his job.
    The caravan is already long forgotten, just like this wall he loved talking about.

    Trump's one and only interest is lining his families pockets and staying out of prison long enough to get as much as possible. That's all.

    Trump built Trump Tower using illegal immigrant workers because they were cheap and easy to exploit - he eventually had to pay out over a million because he actually stopped paying them even the meager $4 an hour they were supposed to be getting
    Mr. Kozak still recalls the work, and seeing Mr. Trump at the site in 1980.
    “We were working, 12, 16 hours a day and were paid $4 an hour,” he said. “Because I worked with an acetylene torch, I got $5 an hour. We worked without masks. Nobody knew what asbestos was. I was an immigrant. I worked very hard.”
    But Mr. Kaszycki stopped paying the men, and they eventually took their complaints to a lawyer named John Szabo. Mr. Szabo went to Thomas Macari, a vice president of the Trump Organization, threatening to place a mechanic’s lien on the property if the men weren’t paid.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/27/nyregion/trump-tower-illegal-immigrant-workers-union-settlement.html

    Trump loooves illegal immigrants because they are 1.) cheap and 2.) easy to bully.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,315 ✭✭✭mynamejeff


    Was there any mention of the murders of those people in the bar in California?

    NO.

    Anyway, forget it, this administration is a total joke. No wonder Trump is palsy walsy with Kim john uh oh.

    I dont believe that the shooting had happened at the time of this press conference.

    And yes the administration is a joke but so is the media so what ya gona do .....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Grayson wrote: »

    He's a reporter, reporters ask questions. Trump avoids answering questions, so of course the guy has to push Trump for answers.

    To be honest I don't envy them their jobs under this administration. I"d imagine that being thrown out of the White House (rightly or wrongly) is going to have some consequences professionally. They also have a reputation to uphold.

    I'd imagine there's a lot of walking on eggshells going on in there.
    It's amazing though that one of the most powerful men in the world needs to react in such a pity way to such a minor event.

    I'd imagine there are times when he wishes he was Putin and could just have them have 'an accident'


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    It would make more sense to have white house reporters for life than judges.

    It's the only western democracy that does that isn't it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,958 ✭✭✭_Whimsical_


    yeah yeah, that's all true - but only to America because that's where this took place, and that's where Trump is relevant.

    so your point is moot. this is boards.IE in IRELAND have you forgotten?

    why does everyone trot out the "most powerful man in the world" ****e when defending their hatred of the US president?

    it still doesnt affect us in Ireland, no matter what way you try to warp it.

    I don't agree with you that it's irrelevant. Ideas and ideals don't have country boarders. Protecting democracy in the western world is the job of every person. When it's eroded, when the concept begins to become nothing but a worn out ideal less effective to government than propoganda, then it's a concern for everyone. To believe that accepting it doesn't begin an insidious creep of the same standards into our own political environment is nieve in my opinion. We have seen how small our world has become, how malleable our values even our definition of biological fact can be, how a Liberal agenda in American politics and elite media was soon mirrored by the same trend in the Irish sphere, how a rise of nationalist ideals in one country spawned an openess to similar regimes in other countries, how the likes of cool pretty boy Troudeau paved the way for the trend away from experienced elder statesman style leaders towards young, trendy tweeters, examples being France and even our own lovely, lovely Leo.
    Our response to these things define our values as a nation. Its good to see people exercised by this kind of injustice, it protects our freedoms, ensures we will live in a country where we won't lose a job over something everyone knows we did not do.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭Omackeral


    ricero wrote: »
    Assault or no assault the reporter was out of line and showed no respect to The Donald.

    He should of gave up the microphone when prompted.

    It's bad when you don't know if this is sarcasm or not.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    Acosta's access wasn't suspended for brushing that girls arm, his access was removed because he has a long history of acting like an absolute Muppet. The guy isn't a journalist, he's a political activist and loves the attention.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060359667635806208

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060362771894693888

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351281691119618

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351509580283905

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060355101578027008


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    First video I've seen or heard about it. You know it's nothing when you keep watching till the end of the video waiting to see what happened, when it already happened.

    There was no assault by Acosta. The lady made physical contact and was gently brushed aside. She then adopted a squatting position for some reason.
    Did Trump accuse Acosta of rudeness, or did my ears deceive me?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Acosta's access wasn't suspended for brushing that girls arm, his access was removed because he has a long history of acting like an absolute Muppet. The guy isn't a journalist, he's a political activist and loves the attention.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060359667635806208

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060362771894693888

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351281691119618

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351509580283905

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060355101578027008

    Suspended for challenging Trump then. Donald is such a snowflake


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,002 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    mynamejeff wrote: »
    I dont believe that the shooting had happened at the time of this press conference.

    And yes the administration is a joke but so is the media so what ya gona do .....

    I hadn't realised that about the shootings, thanks.

    Anyway, Fox News would never have been treated like the CCN guy was.

    We all know the media are a joke, our own country is a closed liberal circle jerk also.

    But we are talking about a huge country, and if the media don't ask questions that the Prez doesn't like, well it sounds ominous to me.

    Ireland needs to take note too. But dear oul Peter Casey has opened up a bit of a debate thankfully. Let us see if he is silenced.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    Suspended for challenging Trump then. Donald is such a snowflake

    1. Give up the mic when the President Of the US says give it up.

    2. Give up the mic when the intern in charge of the mic comes to claim it

    3. Give up the mic when it’s another journalists turn. Failure to follow these rules means you don’t get invited back. Pretty simple.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,909 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Suspended for challenging Trump then. Donald is such a snowflake


    Narcissistic people tend to have a fragile ego


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    if the media don't ask questions that the Prez doesn't like, well it sounds ominous to me.

    Trump literally greets the press and answers questions every time he's flying to leave the white house on the lawn. That's a regular occurrence. This idea that he doesn't answer questions is nonsense, Acosta is a grandstanding muppet that's all there is to it. He's an activist for the Democratic party.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=trump+press+lawn


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    1. Give up the mic when the President Of the US says give it up.

    2. Give up the mic when the intern in charge of the mic comes to claim it

    3. Give up the mic when it’s another journalists turn. Failure to follow these rules means you don’t get invited back. Pretty simple.


    But that's not why he wasn't invited back. They accused him of assault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 658 ✭✭✭jjpep


    Donny and his cuck fans are such snowflakes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 915 ✭✭✭2 Scoops


    But that's not why he wasn't invited back. They accused him of assault.

    In a world where everything is as it appears, yes. That's not how things work in the real world however.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,552 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Acosta's access wasn't suspended for brushing that girls arm, his access was removed because he has a long history of acting like an absolute Muppet. The guy isn't a journalist, he's a political activist and loves the attention.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060359667635806208

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060362771894693888

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351281691119618

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351509580283905

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060355101578027008

    Sanders lecturing anyone on spreading falsehoods, is there a bigger example of irony?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,637 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    1. Give up the mic when the President Of the US says give it up.

    2. Give up the mic when the intern in charge of the mic comes to claim it

    3. Give up the mic when it’s another journalists turn. Failure to follow these rules means you don’t get invited back. Pretty simple.

    In other words, give up.

    Yeah, I'll bet the White House would have liked that.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Apparently, if you slow down the footage the intern touches him 4 times, he touched her once.

    No one would call what she did assault.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    Acosta's access wasn't suspended for brushing that girls arm, his access was removed because he has a long history of acting like an absolute Muppet. The guy isn't a journalist, he's a political activist and loves the attention.

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060359667635806208

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060362771894693888

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351281691119618

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060351509580283905

    https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1060355101578027008

    Sanders lecturing anyone on spreading falsehoods, is there a bigger example of irony?

    'alternative facts':)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    In a world where everything is as it appears, yes. That's not how things work in the real world however.

    While you might be correct in saying that not everything is always as it seems this was a stupid thing to do.

    They could have made a reasonable argument (somewhat reasonable at least) that he was disrespectful, instead they invent a complete nonsense claim of him assaulting someone when there is pretty clear video evidence showing there was nothing even remotely resembling assault.

    It was a moronic and petty move.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,137 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    In a world where everything is as it appears, yes. That's not how things work in the real world however.

    You've gone full Trumpite :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,316 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    1. Give up the mic when the President Of the US says give it up.

    2. Give up the mic when the intern in charge of the mic comes to claim it

    3. Give up the mic when it’s another journalists turn. Failure to follow these rules means you don’t get invited back. Pretty simple.

    I don't think they're the rules. He wasn't banned for any of that. Instead they made up sh1t about him assaulting an intern


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    2 Scoops wrote: »
    In a world where everything is as it appears, yes. That's not how things work in the real world however.


    So you think they are lying about the reason too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,498 ✭✭✭BrokenArrows


    Im not taking sides . Everyone makes mistakes i think he should keep his job once he makes an apology to her.

    He didn't do anything. FFS what's wrong with the world. Every minor incident has to result in massive outrage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,809 ✭✭✭Hector Savage


    thomasm wrote: »
    White house says its unacceptable to put a hand on a female
    President on record saying 'grab them by the pussy'

    Which was absurd talk and a joke, but you know this and are purposefully being disingenous.


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