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23-03-2017, 12:17   #1
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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Am a cycle commuter for past 6 years, and use the bike daily for work and for getting around. In Dublin.

I've had a more 'near misses' than normal in the past few weeks.

Last week, for second time ever - car hit me on the bike - wing mirror clipped the handlebar as he was pulling over to the left (to drop someone off I think). Fortunately in very slow traffic.

Week before I was a half second from going flying when parked car opened driver door in front of me.

And I've had quite few drivers leaving 50/60cms on an overtake, leaving me feeling very comfortable.

Mostly young-ish men and women. I get the sense that a lot of people, more than before, are driving around with a phone on their lap - picking it up at lights, putting it down again, and are a bit more distracted than before.

Any other cyclists experiencing this?

(And note, I have zero interest in 'advice' or 'constructive criticism' from drivers - there are a million other threads where I can find this).

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23-03-2017, 12:35   #2
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Am a cycle commuter for past 6 years, and use the bike daily for work and for getting around. In Dublin.

I've had a more 'near misses' than normal in the past few weeks.

Last week, for second time ever - car hit me on the bike - wing mirror clipped the handlebar as he was pulling over to the left (to drop someone off I think). Fortunately in very slow traffic.

Week before I was a half second from going flying when parked car opened driver door in front of me.

And I've had quite few drivers leaving 50/60cms on an overtake, leaving me feeling very comfortable.

Mostly young-ish men and women. I get the sense that a lot of people, more than before, are driving around with a phone on their lap - picking it up at lights, putting it down again, and are a bit more distracted than before.

Any other cyclists experiencing this?

(And note, I have zero interest in 'advice' or 'constructive criticism' from drivers - there are a million other threads where I can find this).
Yes.

I commuted on my bike last week for the first time this year and I noticed a big difference in how I felt safety wise in traffic and whatnot.

There also seems to be way more kamikaze pedestrians around recently too. I'm always in fear of someone stepping out onto the road to overtake slow walkers, and don't get me started on the risk of umbrellas.
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23-03-2017, 12:38   #3
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The amount of people using phones at lights is definitely a common thing. Why people can't put the phone away while making a journey is mind boggling.
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Don't be cycling with an umbrella!
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Nope, other than the van driver who was (I am convinced) trying to knock me down the other day, I've found it better lately for the most part. I've been taking the lane more too though, and waiting til I think it's safe for people to pass, or pulling in somewhere if I feel that I'm at a stage where I'm going to slow.

I'm getting a lot more waves, thank you beeps and flashes of the light too as I think they see me as behaving more typically like a car. Waiting in the queue of traffic at lights rather than squeezing up if it's too tight is a big one for some I think. A bit of give and take is needed.

That's not to say I'm not seeing 100% perfect behaviour, but I'm mostly feeling safer as I am managing it better and being courteous etc. I am seeing an alarming amount of RLJing at busy junctions by cars though. It's definitely on the increase.
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Nope, other than the van driver who was (I am convinced) trying to knock me down the other day, I've found it better lately for the most part. I've been taking the lane more too though, and waiting til I think it's safe for people to pass, or pulling in somewhere if I feel that I'm at a stage where I'm going to slow.

I'm getting a lot more waves, thank you beeps and flashes of the light too as I think they see me as behaving more typically like a car. Waiting in the queue of traffic at lights rather than squeezing up if it's too tight is a big one for some I think. A bit of give and take is needed.

That's not to say I'm not seeing 100% perfect behaviour, but I'm mostly feeling safer as I am managing it better and being courteous etc. I am seeing an alarming amount of RLJing at busy junctions by cars though. It's definitely on the increase.
Presume you mean bike lane here.

My commute doesn't have any, Clonliffe Road or else Richmond Road would be the main thoroughfares.

A bit of give and take refers to what exactly?

What am I not doing that I should be doing?

And again, yes I see plenty of very pleasant drivers. Just more for example overtaking when there is oncoming traffic and not enough room.
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And I've had quite few drivers leaving 50/60cms on an overtake, leaving me feeling very comfortable.
50-60cm passing? That's loads in the city centre! So many buses and taxi's only give 5 to 6 cms. Other cyclists passing give you even less (not that that's frequent )

PS. I haven't noticed any discernible change in motorists behavior in the last month.
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There also seems to be way more kamikaze pedestrians around recently too.
Text-walker epidemic.

It'll be even more fun when augmented reality glasses become mainstream:

"Is that bike really coming for me, or is this part of the game I'm playing??"
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Presume you mean bike lane here.

My commute doesn't have any, Clonliffe Road or else Richmond Road would be the main thoroughfares.

A bit of give and take refers to what exactly?

What am I not doing that I should be doing?

And again, yes I see plenty of very pleasant drivers. Just more for example overtaking when there is oncoming traffic and not enough room.
I mean taking the full lane. In urban traffic I'm not going to be at the kerb if I can help it as much as possible. It invites close overtakes for some and is rutted, potholed, and covered in standing water at the moment.I take ownership of the lane as I can generally keep pace with it, though am often faster. Part of my route have decent enough cycle lane so I'll use it then. Drumcondra road has a brutal cycle lane, but more often than not I'll use it as it's the stretch where I think people will get impatient or take a stupid chance.
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Two cars drove up on the footpath today as I was walking to work. Then when I pointed it out to them, they looked confused.
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I mean taking the full lane. In urban traffic I'm not going to be at the kerb if I can help it as much as possible. It invites close overtakes for some and is rutted, potholed, and covered in standing water at the moment.I take ownership of the lane as I can generally keep pace with it, though am often faster. Part of my route have decent enough cycle lane so I'll use it then. Drumcondra road has a brutal cycle lane, but more often than not I'll use it as it's the stretch where I think people will get impatient or take a stupid chance.
That's interesting. Something I've thought about, and should probably do more of.

Best example of this is bus lanes. Taxis will over take unless you dominate the lane.

Funny enough, I would identify the bike lane on Drumcondra road as quite a high risk place, simply as pedestrians are so likely to walk onto the lane. And also, cyclists often undertake on this lane.
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I've been getting more close passes lately - don't know if it's just a statistical blip or evidence of a more extensive change. I did have some numpty clip me with a mirror at the top of Howth on Sunday last. I stayed upright but got a good fright.

He was an older man. He pulled in down the road and appeared to be quite a bit shocked. I let one or two wtf's out of me and kept going. Otherwise I would just got into a shouting match with a seventy year old - no point.
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I did have some numpty clip me with a mirror at the top of Howth on Sunday last.
I think that's a 'near miss' only in the sense that he 'nearly missed' you while actually hitting you with his car. Clearly off topic meanderings!
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Perhaps bikes are becoming more ubiquitous on the roads now and stand out less as something unusual and noteworthy in a driver's mind so they become part of the scenery rather than another road user.

Or perhaps it's kick-back from the recent discussion about enforcing 1.5m overtake rule. And if there's one thing Irish drivers hate above all else is being told to give MORE allowances to cyclists.

Or perhaps this is all complete bull****
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Phones. Morons on them would be one of the main reasons I don't cycle very much. It's definitely getting worse.
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