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Sunday 17th

  • 17-01-2021 11:15am
    #1
    The Mig
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    Envoi’s biggest test so far over fences. What we thinking?

    Who wins? 14 votes

    Envoi Allen
    35% 5 votes
    Asterion Forlonge
    50% 7 votes
    The field
    14% 2 votes


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  • #2
    famagusta
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 604 ✭✭✭famagusta


    The Mig wrote:
    Envoi’s biggest test so far over fences. What we thinking?


    He wins, he's a machine, hurdles fences, hopefully he puts on a show today!


  • #3
    The Mig
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Agree Fama. My oul lad has always said to me “Good horses can give weight away”


  • #4
    posturingpat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,722 ✭✭✭posturingpat


    I think hell win because he is top drawer but I don't think hell get it too easy. AF only beaten late on I'd say. Sempo finishes 3rd before reverting back to hurdles and going for a pertemps qualifier. Come back next season Novice chasing.


  • #5
    hawaii501
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,095 ✭✭✭hawaii501


    Jumping is the name of the game, much rather be on the aeroplane that jumps rather than 'potential' of Asterion Forlonge(this coming from someone who fancied Asterion heavily in the supreme).
    Not been impressed whatsoever with Asterion over the larger obstacles, good engine thats about it for me....


  • #6
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I reckon about 3 fences in AF takes a hold and does one of his trademarks violent swings to the right before taking the 4th fence and crashes both him and Envoi Allen out of the race.

    Sempo picks up the pieces and cruises home at 66/1.

    Just saying.

    EDIT

    If that doesn't happen Envoi wins handy as he will take 3 lengths off AF at each fence.


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  • #7
    longshotvalue
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I reckon about 3 fences in AF takes a hold and does one of his trademarks violent swings to the right before taking the 4th fence and crashes both him and Envoi Allen out of the race.

    Sempo picks up the pieces and cruises home at 66/1.

    Just saying.

    EDIT

    If that doesn't happen Envoi wins handy as he will take 3 lengths off AF at each fence.




    looking at it kind of interested in sempo w/o airplane at 22/1 .


  • #8
    NaiveMelodies
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    Can't wait for this. Hope Envoi wins doing handstands. We need a wonder horse in our lives, especially right now.


  • #9
    IAMAMORON
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    aidankkk wrote: »
    looking at it kind of interested in sempo w/o airplane at 22/1 .

    I fancy Sempo for the Irish National or some stayers handicap down the line. But he could well pick up the pieces here if he was hanging around the back faffing around looking for a decent handicap mark.

    Very cynical I know.


  • #10
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I fancy Sempo for the Irish National or some stayers handicap down the line. But he could well pick up the pieces here if he was hanging around the back faffing around looking for a decent handicap mark.

    Very cynical I know.

    Sempo is a terrible jumper


  • #11
    Slattsy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,775 ✭✭✭✭Slattsy


    This could be a stronger race than the Marsh.


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  • #12
    IAMAMORON
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    Kauto wrote: »
    Sempo is a terrible jumper

    Ah give him a chance ffs, it is only his 3rd start over fences.

    Some real experts around here.


  • #13
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    According to Betfair there is nearly half a million matched on the race so far?

    That is a lot of tenners.

    https://www.betfair.com/exchange/plus/horse-racing/market/1.177999560


  • #14
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Over a million on now.

    100,000 tenners.

    1.2 million at the off


  • #15
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    what a chunt of a thing


  • #16
    The Mig
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    :pac: :pac:


  • #17
    krustydoyle
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    Holey jaysus


  • #18
    Anniepowaa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Anniepowaa


    That wasn't impressive tbh


  • #19
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Some machine.

    They should run in the gold cup.


  • #20
    zpehtsfd
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭zpehtsfd


    Look at that as a schooling session for EA. Don't over-analysis the race or you'll end up second guessing this superstar.


  • #21
    NaiveMelodies
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    Real pity. Envoi still such a joy to watch.


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  • #22
    The Mig
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    Loved the way he put it to bed after the last


  • #23
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    I rang Willie there, he seemed disappointed.

    He reckons the Queens Vase or maybe the Irish Ledger.


  • #24
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Some machine.

    They should run in the gold cup.

    Clown.


  • #25
    stretchaq
    Registered Users Posts: 567 ✭✭✭stretchaq


    So disappointed in that, not EA performance just tought it would be a cracker of a race but falling that early disaster


  • #26
    IAMAMORON
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    Kauto wrote: »
    Clown.

    It's your fault for putting the mockers on Sempo.

    He would have won handy otherwise.


  • #27
    The Mig
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 2,034 Mod ✭✭✭✭The Mig


    Did not see that coming haha


  • #28
    posturingpat
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    Was going to say Dreal deal was a non jigger about 1 minute and 20 seconds ago 😂


  • #29
    abarkie
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    posturingpat wrote: »
    Was going to say Dreal deal was a non jigger about 1 minute and 20 seconds ago ��

    Starting to look like it had a pound or two in hand when the first gamble was landed?
    :rolleyes:

    Or maybe it was a stone or four!


  • #30
    NaiveMelodies
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    posturingpat wrote: »
    Was going to say Dreal deal was a non jigger about 1 minute and 20 seconds ago 😂

    I did ask myself if O'Regan really wanted to win that!


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  • #31
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    NaiveMelodies wrote: »
    I did ask myself if O'Regan really wanted to win that!

    He was out for a spin and picked up the pieces. Wasnt wanted at all.

    Say he wasn't 75% fit. Been in a field for most of the last few months.


  • #32
    NaiveMelodies
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    Kauto wrote: »
    He was out for a spin and picked up the pieces. Wasnt wanted at all.

    Say he wasn't 75% fit. Been in a field for most of the last few months.

    Yeah, proper horse so.
    I reckon he'll be a seriously good chaser.


  • #33
    Andrew00
    Registered Users Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    Shades Are Trumps will land a big gamble this year.

    Watch the ride on it in the last today. F*ckin rancid sick of the cheating that goes on


  • #34
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Shades Are Trumps will land a big gamble this year.

    Watch the ride on it in the last today. F*ckin rancid sick of the cheating that goes on

    I just don't have a bet in handicaps anymore. There is no point unless you know what is trying. It is the silly season in full swing now, lots of bolloxing going on, you are far better not having a bet until it gets properly competitive again. Otherwise you end up wasting your stash on stupid bets that haven't a hope.

    When a jockey is told not to place it becomes glaring - especially with a few fallers suddenly putting them in contention.


  • #35
    Andrew00
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    I just don't have a bet in handicaps anymore. There is no point unless you know what is trying. It is the silly season in full swing now, lots of bolloxing going on, you are far better not having a bet until it gets properly competitive again. Otherwise you end up wasting your stash on stupid bets that haven't a hope.

    When a jockey is told not to place it becomes glaring - especially with a few fallers suddenly putting them in contention.

    Yeah that's for sure the last few months the constant cheating and non trying is ridiculous. I've stayed away from the handidaps as well


  • #36
    IAMAMORON
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 9,078 ✭✭✭IAMAMORON


    Andrew00 wrote: »
    Yeah that's for sure the last few months the constant cheating and non trying is ridiculous. I've stayed away from the handidaps as well

    Don't be afraid of getting on a big handicap - with proper prizemoney - you will find that there is a few triers there.

    And whatever you do steer well clear of Dundalk, biggest unholy racket I have seen for years. Ugly stuff week in week out. Far worse than those 6 furlong boat races they have on the Curragh, Naas and up in Navan all summer.


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  • #37
    mightyreds
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    IAMAMORON wrote: »
    Don't be afraid of getting on a big handicap - with proper prizemoney - you will find that there is a few triers there.

    And whatever you do steer well clear of Dundalk, biggest unholy racket I have seen for years. Ugly stuff week in week out. Far worse than those 6 furlong boat races they have on the Curragh, Naas and up in Navan all summer.

    Trainer I know used to run quite a few horses up in Dundalk, he drank in my local you'd be guaranteed every two weeks he'd give a horse for the Friday night would win at 20/40-1 range and be never heard of again.


  • #38
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    mightyreds wrote: »
    Trainer I know used to run quite a few horses up in Dundalk, he drank in my local you'd be guaranteed every two weeks he'd give a horse for the Friday night would win at 20/40-1 range and be never heard of again.

    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


  • #39
    mightyreds
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    Kauto wrote: »
    Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    Not in to horse racing, just the comment reminded me of it, take it what way you want got quite a few nights drinking from it nothing else after that couldn't really care what you think


  • #40
    Anniepowaa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 126 ✭✭Anniepowaa


    wah wah wah cant back a winner the game is rigged haha


  • #41
    Slattsy
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    I've been waiting on The Great White to go back up in trip and today is the day. I'm certain this fella has a decent prize in him, and while today may not be the day, I'm happy to take the 8s in an open race .


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  • #42
    Slattsy
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    Today was not the day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D


  • #43
    Kauto
    Registered Users Posts: 823 ✭✭✭Kauto


    Slattsy wrote: »
    Today was not the day !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

    Backed it myself last few times. Stable out of form and he is a soft yoke to go with it.


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