New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules Updated 10/9/2024

big_drive · 02-06-2021 7:58pm

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

Who sent you the email

€12.94 sounds like the VAT + An Post's €7 handling fee (at least I think it's €7)

Email from An Post, i used address pal. I see €3.50 was An post fee which I'm fine with but I can't understand how value was decided at 41.05 so vat at 9.44

The only thing was it's an item of clothing which is second hand? They'd hardly put it's new value on it?
It's genuinely used with no tags etc. But could they think I asked the seller to remove tags to try avoid something. I can clearly show I paid £20 for it not including the postage

Suckit · 02-06-2021 8:05pm

big_drive wrote: »

Email from An Post, i used address pal. I see €3.50 was An post fee which I'm fine with but I can't understand how value was decided at 41.05 so vat at 9.44

The only thing was it's an item of clothing which is second hand? They'd hardly put it's new value on it?
It's genuinely used with no tags etc. But could they think I asked the seller to remove tags to try avoid something. I can clearly show I paid £20 for it not including the postage

How much was Address Pal before their handling fee?
Add the item value and addresspal charge to get vat + €3.50

There will be a difference in price than having it posted direct. I think also, the bigger/heavier the item, the higher the price from addresspal = higher vat.

Suckit · 02-06-2021 8:10pm

whiterebel wrote: »

€6 lower collection was scrapped in early January. Revenue removed all mention of it from their documentation.

Not doubting it, but I can only find this mention of it -

3.9 Waiver of small amountsThe practice of not collecting Import VAT amounting to €6 or less on any one consignment is likely to be discontinued shortly. This is in line with a similar change on the Customs duty side when thepractice of not collecting amounts less that €10 was discontinued when the Union Customs Codecame into operation on the 01/05/2016.

From here - https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/tdm/customs/import-export-policy/customs-manual-on-import-vat.pdf

Which was updated in February.

big_drive · 02-06-2021 8:31pm

Suckit wrote: »

How much was Address Pal before their handling fee?
Add the item value and addresspal charge to get vat + €3.50

There will be a difference in price than having it posted direct. I think also, the bigger/heavier the item, the higher the price from addresspal = higher vat.

Address pal fee is 6.50 but that's a totally separate payment

This isn't a big or heavy item, it's a pair of trousers

whiterebel · 02-06-2021 8:38pm

Believe me, there was a big row about it on here and consumer issues in January. There was a poster who kept posting the links on revenue that the lower limit was €6, and as fast as he posted them, they were removed. There is still one or two documents floating around, but its definitely gone. They changed it to lower limit valuation of €22 instead, which is going next month.

whiterebel · 02-06-2021 8:39pm

big_drive wrote: »

Address pal fee is 6.50 but that's a totally separate payment

This isn't a big or heavy item, it's a pair of trousers

€6.50 is added on to the value for the VAT calculation.

Suckit · 02-06-2021 9:26pm

big_drive wrote: »

Address pal fee is 6.50 but that's a totally separate payment

This isn't a big or heavy item, it's a pair of trousers

As above. €6.50 added.

So the item was €24.39 + €6.50 = €30.89 + €7.10 VAT of the total price - This is a handy site to use - https://www.calculatevat.net/index.php
€37.99 + €3.50 handling should be the total paid.

whiterebel wrote: »

Believe me, there was a big row about it on here and consumer issues in January. There was a poster who kept posting the links on revenue that the lower limit was €6, and as fast as he posted them, they were removed. There is still one or two documents floating around, but its definitely gone. They changed it to lower limit valuation of €22 instead, which is going next month.

Gotcha. I didn't/don't doubt you. Just that I couldn't find anything about it at all. Now I know why. Thanks.

big_drive · 03-06-2021 12:28pm

Suckit wrote: »

As above. €6.50 added.

So the item was €24.39 + €6.50 = €30.89 + €7.10 VAT of the total price - This is a handy site to use - https://www.calculatevat.net/index.php
€37.99 + €3.50 handling should be the total paid.

Gotcha. I didn't/don't doubt you. Just that I couldn't find anything about it at all. Now I know why. Thanks.

Brilliant thanks for that explanation, that probably explains it.
I wasn't aware the 6.50 is added too. It's an eye opener really, the cost has crept up to almost what item would be brand new

whiterebel · 03-06-2021 12:31pm

big_drive wrote: »

Brilliant thanks for that explanation, that probably explains it.
I wasn't aware the 6.50 is added too. It's an eye opener really, the cost has crept up to almost what item would be brand new

First post in the thread explains most of what you need to know.

sbkenn · 12-06-2021 6:34pm

Has anyone successfully reclaimed UK VAT on something that they imported ? Their revenue office hasn't replied to my enquiries.

Darc19 · 12-06-2021 7:00pm

sbkenn wrote: »

Has anyone successfully reclaimed UK VAT on something that they imported ? Their revenue office hasn't replied to my enquiries.

Surely that is a query for the UK tax authorities. Nothing to do with revenue here.

sbkenn · 12-06-2021 7:58pm

Darc19 wrote: »

Surely that is a query for the UK tax authorities. Nothing to do with revenue here.

I did say "THEIR revenue"

ohnonotgmail · 12-06-2021 8:18pm

sbkenn wrote: »

Has anyone successfully reclaimed UK VAT on something that they imported ? Their revenue office hasn't replied to my enquiries.

are you claiming as an individual or as a business?

sbkenn · 12-06-2021 9:47pm

An individual. I have paid IR VAT on import

ohnonotgmail · 12-06-2021 10:39pm

sbkenn wrote: »

An individual. I have paid IR VAT on import

There are procedures for businesses to reclaim UK VAT on imported goods but I am not aware of anything similar for individuals

ShayNanigan · 13-06-2021 6:10pm

NM, just found that the VAT limit means the order must be in Ireland on 30th June at the latest to avoid payment.

AdrianG08 · 21-06-2021 10:47am

Just had a shipment held by customs from Singapore, seller put incorrect valuation on package ($38 in instead of $250 inclusive of $60 shipping).

Its actually items of clothing, does anyone know what kind of duty i'm going to have to pay on this?

whiterebel · 21-06-2021 11:00am

AdrianG08 wrote: »

Just had a shipment held by customs from Singapore, seller put incorrect valuation on package ($38 in instead of $250 inclusive of $60 shipping).

Its actually items of clothing, does anyone know what kind of duty i'm going to have to pay on this?

Mod - See first post in thread. You're going to have to find the tariff codes for the duty rate. Link is in the post

AdrianG08 · 21-06-2021 11:34am

whiterebel wrote: »

Mod - See first post in thread. You're going to have to find the tariff codes for the duty rate. Link is in the post

Thanks a million

Cannot for the life of me locate the correct code for clothing, does anyone know it off hand?

I have feeling charges will now be applicable on value I paid for items ($250 instead of $38 which is fair enough), but I would like to know how much these charges are before committing to DHL delivering.

I see a previous poster mention FedEx deliver before seeking charges, I do not want to receive request of £250 import tax to be paid after they clear item following my proof of purchase being provided. I'd request it be returned to sender instead to be honest.

I had something similar with FedEx before, I received my items but FedEx sent me import taxes bill a few weeks later. Bought 2 items from Tarte cosmetics for €82 and later received letter seeking €39 taxes, how was this calculated? Is VAT not only 23%?

Just trying to get an idea of how much i'll be stung for on $250 worth of clothing from Singapore.

NewbridgeIR · 21-06-2021 6:08pm

AdrianG08 wrote: »

Thanks a million

Cannot for the life of me locate the correct code for clothing, does anyone know it off hand?

I have feeling charges will now be applicable on value I paid for items ($250 instead of $38 which is fair enough), but I would like to know how much these charges are before committing to DHL delivering.

I see a previous poster mention FedEx deliver before seeking charges, I do not want to receive request of £250 import tax to be paid after they clear item following my proof of purchase being provided. I'd request it be returned to sender instead to be honest.

I had something similar with FedEx before, I received my items but FedEx sent me import taxes bill a few weeks later. Bought 2 items from Tarte cosmetics for €82 and later received letter seeking €39 taxes, how was this calculated? Is VAT not only 23%?

Just trying to get an idea of how much i'll be stung for on $250 worth of clothing from Singapore.

I bought a CD from Japan last month - cost was €45. The Fedex bill was €25 - made up of €10 VAT + €15 handling charge.

AdrianG08 · 21-06-2021 10:35pm

NewbridgeIR wrote: »

I bought a CD from Japan last month - cost was €45. The Fedex bill was €25 - made up of €10 VAT + €15 handling charge.

Vat is 50% for CDs?

NewbridgeIR · 21-06-2021 10:40pm

AdrianG08 wrote: »

Vat is 50% for CDs?

No - the VAT was 23% - €10 based on a €45 price.

Then Fedex lob on €15 as a "handing" fee.

So I paid €45 + €25 = €70

Could be worse; UPS fee is €18.50.

Mike2006 · 23-06-2021 12:19pm

Hi,

If I order an item of clothing (shoes) from a UK company and it states that import duties are included in cost (when I select Ireland as delivery destination), does this mean that I will not be charged any duty or vat when they are delivered to me.

Thanks,
Mike

VG31 · 23-06-2021 1:31pm

Yes, that should be the case. It would help if you actually said what company it is though.

Mike2006 · 23-06-2021 4:03pm

Sure - it is brownsfashion.com who are based in the UK.

Any change of view now after seeing that?

Mike

VG31 · 23-06-2021 4:17pm

Mike2006 wrote: »

Sure - it is brownsfashion.com who are based in the UK.

Any change of view now after seeing that?

Mike

Ireland is on their list of countries where VAT/imports are covered so you should be fine.

ohnonotgmail · 01-07-2021 9:18am

From today Aliexpress are adding Irish VAT at checkout time. There should be nothing further payable when it arrives in ireland.

https://service.aliexpress.com/page/knowledge?pageId=37&category=1000021915&knowledge=1060863305&language=en

zell12 · 01-07-2021 10:17am

Amazon still have errors in their VAT system - they had them in 2017-2019 as well
For example: hearing aid batteries are exempt in IE, but 23% is added on checkout

paul71 · 02-07-2021 1:31pm

AdrianG08 wrote: »

Vat is 50% for CDs?

Vat is 23%, Import duty is seperate.

NewbridgeIR · 03-07-2021 1:59pm

Ordered a BD from Amazon UK last weekend. Cost £17.99. As was customary for items under the threshold, they removed the UK VAT and didn't add on any Irish VAT (aka Import Fees Deposit) so I was charged £14.17.
Posted 2 July.
Arrived today 3 July. No extra charge from An Post.

The_Conductor · 03-07-2021 5:58pm

You got lucky.
By rights you should have been charged both VAT and a handling fee by An Post.

sterz · 04-07-2021 8:44am

Has anyone ordered from iherb recently? I'm looking to place an order that looks like this:

Item cost 24.10
Shipping DHL 12.11
Duties and taxes 4.89
Total 41.10

I see the below message when I go to checkout but will I need to pay additional an additional customs charge or has it already been factored in?

"Starting July 1st, the EU ended the low-value consignment relief for shipments equal to or less than €22 for goods to the EU from outside the EU based on arrival date. From July 1st, based on the order date, iHerb is registered in the Import-One-Stop-Shop (IOSS) and will collect, declare, and pay the VAT to the tax authorities for distance sales of imported goods with a value not exceeding €150."

TomOnBoard · 04-07-2021 1:43pm

sterz wrote: »

Has anyone ordered from iherb recently? I'm looking to place an order that looks like this:

Item cost 24.10
Shipping DHL 12.11
Duties and taxes 4.89
Total 41.10

I see the below message when I go to checkout but will I need to pay additional an additional customs charge or has it already been factored in?

"Starting July 1st, the EU ended the low-value consignment relief for shipments equal to or less than €22 for goods to the EU from outside the EU based on arrival date. From July 1st, based on the order date, iHerb is registered in the Import-One-Stop-Shop (IOSS) and will collect, declare, and pay the VAT to the tax authorities for distance sales of imported goods with a value not exceeding €150."

Its hard to say, based on that order summary. It depends on the actual products ordered. Some iHerb products would be zero rated, others would attract 23% VAT.

Assuming that iHerb have set their VAT rates up correctly, and that shipping is properly treated for incoming VAT purposes, it may be safe to assume you'll be ok. But, without seeing the order detail, its not possible to be sure.

davetherave · 04-07-2021 5:41pm

4.89 is 13.5% of the value for tax purposes €36.21 (goods plus shipping plus insurance).

Food supplements* are rated at 13.5%, so that would suggest they have something set up right, and are taking it at source, but as Tom says you'd want to know the specific goods to be sure.

* More info and examples here - https://www.revenue.ie/en/tax-professionals/tdm/value-added-tax/part03-taxable-transactions-goods-ica-services/Goods/goods-food-supplements.pdf

sterz · 04-07-2021 6:04pm

One product I'm looking to order appears on the list of examples provided in that link and the other doesn't (I know the list isn't exhaustive but the product is a food supplement) so I guess that will be the full cost and I won't be hit with an additional fee once they arrive.

I wish I knew for sure though as if I was to order multiples of these products it would reduce the cost per capsule somewhat.

1dave123 · 04-07-2021 6:24pm

sterz wrote: »

Has anyone ordered from iherb recently? I'm looking to place an order that looks like this:

Item cost 24.10
Shipping DHL 12.11
Duties and taxes 4.89
Total 41.10

I see the below message when I go to checkout but will I need to pay additional an additional customs charge or has it already been factored in?

"Starting July 1st, the EU ended the low-value consignment relief for shipments equal to or less than €22 for goods to the EU from outside the EU based on arrival date. From July 1st, based on the order date, iHerb is registered in the Import-One-Stop-Shop (IOSS) and will collect, declare, and pay the VAT to the tax authorities for distance sales of imported goods with a value not exceeding €150."

I ordered from iherb in April 2021 - chose DPD (not DHL) duty paid. Duties & taxes were €3.85. Total order was €46.61 (incl duties). Postage was free because the order was above the required level. Package arrived quickly and no further payment was required.

sterz · 04-07-2021 6:26pm

Thanks. Off-topic but what were the delivery times like? DPD is saying 15th - 22nd whereas DHL is 7th - 15th. Wondering if there's that much of a difference between the two.

1dave123 · 04-07-2021 6:28pm

From memory DPD were about 8-9 days.

Doomofman · 30-07-2021 2:38pm

What's the process with An Post for paying vat/customs? Expecting something that's coming from Royal Mail via An Post. Is it an online payment? If so, will I get a text letting me know it needs to be paid or should I just keep an eye on the tracking?

ussjtrunks · 01-08-2021 10:22pm

Do I need to pay extra if I buy from zavvi?

whiterebel · 01-08-2021 11:15pm

Did you check the Zaavi website?

ussjtrunks · 02-08-2021 2:56am

I don’t think they changed it since the vat exemption changed but it was fine ordering from them before cos everything was under 22€ usually

sniper_samurai · 02-08-2021 9:59am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117693239#Comment_117693239

No, their items have been inclusive of Irish vat since the start of the year with brexit.

ohnonotgmail · 02-08-2021 8:52pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117683194#Comment_117683194

I have received 2 requests by email for vat due. payment is online or in post office.

Doomofman · 03-08-2021 9:56am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117696670#Comment_117696670

Thanks for that. Got it delivered this morning and there was no VAT/Customs due for whatever reason

micks_address · 03-08-2021 11:01am

apologies if answered before. How do anpost figure out a value of an item if the sender has marked it down when posting? Especially say for a private sale? if someone from england posts a something of 1k value to dublin but marks it as value of 100 pounds.. this isn't an ebay purchase so there's no invoice/order details.

whiterebel · 03-08-2021 11:04am

They'll probably google it. Not really a topic for discussion, as it's sailing close to the wind with the Forum charter and the first post in this thread.

ohnonotgmail · 03-08-2021 11:06am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117698602#Comment_117698602

If they see that the item is clearly undervalued they will look up the price of similar items and use that as the value.

ussjtrunks · 04-08-2021 3:25pm

How do you get a request for vat if you don’t have a registered email to your address so they leave a card in the box?

joker@ · 13-08-2021 8:26am

Hello

Bought second hand phone on ebay, paid vat at checkout, seller left IOSS payment info on the package itself about payment. Package arrived to Ireland and anpost charged me with Vat again saying that there was no IOSS information. Send they emails 3 with questions after 3rd which was include pictures of the package with that information there were talking about....no response since then. Horrible ugly scammers they are, they do what they want. Is there any other way who I can contact. Its 34e but just for pure justice won't let them off the hook.

Regards

New Import Duty/VAT Thread. Read Post #1 for Rules Updated 10/9/2024

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