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Star Trek Continues

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  • #102
    PhiloCypher
    Registered Users Posts: 2,391 ✭✭✭PhiloCypher


    How canon do people consider Star Trek Continues ? I only became aware of this little gem when 'to boldly go part 1'(the penultimate ep) came out a few weeks back . After I got over the dissonance of seeing different actors in those iconic roles I really enjoyed it , especially the tying in of future canon like the mention of Romulans ships being powered by mini blackholes.

    I ask because I've just began watching the first episode and low and behold the opening scene is revealed to have taken place on a holodeck. I have no idea whether these guys always planned to include it as they figured it's appearance in TAS was a tacit acknowledgement that it was something Gene planned to incorporate in a fourth season, or whether they new it was going to be included in Discovery and just wanted to tip their hat to it(like the Discovery model in the Admirals office) . What I do know is purists thought it was canon destroying when Discovery did it.

    What I'm wondering is, what do these same purists make of Continues doing the same.

    Anyways I'm looking foward to plowing through the rest of the episodes to see what surprises and interesting future canon referances it holds .


  • #103
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    I don't think Continues can be called canon, if for no other reason that it simply isn't an official Star Trek series, but I would consider that it at least adheres to the classic Star Trek canon (and I'm purposefully making the distinction between 'classic' canon and whatever this new post-JJ post-Discovery stuff is (which I'm also enjoying very much, w/r/t Discovery at least)).

    Having an early holodeck doesn't contradict anything. It appears to be new technology, less advanced than the TNG holodeck, and is in keeping with Roddenberry's plans for Star Trek Phase II, the abandoned television reboot/continuation of TOS which later morphed into The Motion Picture and TNG.

    TNG took a lot of it's setup and early stories from abandoned Phase II ideas and scripts, including the holodeck, and I believe ST: Continues also looked there for inspiration. The Continues episodes are specifically designed to be TOS season 4 and/or 5, so having a holodeck show up in "season 4" doesn't mean they had one in season's 1 to 3 and makes no claims about there being a holodeck prior to that (i.e. ~10 years earlier on the Discovery). And as you mentioned, a holodeck was already seen in TAS.


    So I think, technically, Continues can't be canon. But technicalities aside, it's a near-perfect canon-abiding season 4/5.

    Also, that first episode of Continues was produced about 5 years ago, so there's not much chance that the holodeck was a hat-tip to Discovery.


  • #104
    hal9550
    Registered Users Posts: 108 ✭✭hal9550


    PhiloCypher wrote: »
    How canon do people consider Star Trek Continues ? I only became aware of this little gem when 'to boldly go part 1'(the penultimate ep) came out a few weeks back . After I got over the dissonance of seeing different actors in those iconic roles I really enjoyed it , especially the tying in of future canon like the mention of Romulans ships being powered by mini blackholes.

    I ask because I've just began watching the first episode and low and behold the opening scene is revealed to have taken place on a holodeck. I have no idea whether these guys always planned to include it as they figured it's appearance in TAS was a tacit acknowledgement that it was something Gene planned to incorporate in a fourth season, or whether they new it was going to be included in Discovery and just wanted to tip their hat to it(like the Discovery model in the Admirals office) . What I do know is purists thought it was canon destroying when Discovery did it.

    What I'm wondering is, what do these same purists make of Continues doing the same.

    Anyways I'm looking foward to plowing through the rest of the episodes to see what surprises and interesting future canon referances it holds .

    Official Canon: Its probable that STC will never truly be recognized as canon in my opinion. And by canon we would mean that it will be accepted as part of trek history and such, within the shows and films themselves. The CLOSEST endorsement came from Gene Roddenberry's Son Rod (from wikipedia, with references to Rods Statement on Facebook)
    On July 31, 2014, Rod Roddenberry attended an official screening of "Fairest of Them All" in Las Vegas and endorsed the project stating: "I do have to say, and I said this after 'Lolani', I'm pretty damn sure my dad would consider this canon. The fact that you do stories that mean something, that have depth, that make us all think a little bit, I really think he would applaud you guys, and I applaud you guys. And, as far as I am concerned, it is canon. So thank you."

    I would say, personally, i have no issue with STC as canon. I think it fits nicely, and continues several story lines from TOS. The mirror universe for example, along with Apollo and the ESPers

    In terms of myself, im a trekkie in the truest sense. I have seen every incarnation of Trek and read many books and tech manuals.. I stated in a different thread that Star Trek is FULL of canonical errors, with the eugenics wars being the obvious one i always remember (Took place in 1990s.. yet so did Voyagers Futures End..??)

    IN terms of discovery, i havent really seen any, what i would deem to be, MASSIVE plot holes or canon errors.. nothing that cannot be explained away, in my opinion..

    I will say this, STC is FAR more acceptable of Trad-canon in my opinion. The proto-holodeck.. fine.. The Saucer Sep... Interesting!.. Inclusion of a ships Councillor.. Had to start at some point!!

    For me, personally, its as much canon as anything, although i doubt it will be referenced in a future production.


  • #105
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    hal9550 wrote: »


    I will say this, STC is FAR more acceptable of Trad-canon in my opinion. The proto-holodeck.. fine.. The Saucer Sep... Interesting!.. Inclusion of a ships Councillor.. Had to start at some point!!

    For me, personally, its as much canon as anything, although i doubt it will be referenced in a future production.

    I was curious about the Saucer Separation on the Enterprise as well. Canon but rarely used (if at all) in TOS but was a possibility.
    In 2267, Captain James T. Kirk considered a plan wherein chief engineer Montgomery Scott would discard the warp drive nacelles and escape with the main section when the original USS Enterprise was threatened by Vaal at Gamma Trianguli VI. Ultimately, the separation was never ordered. (TOS: "The Apple")


  • #106
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Final Goodbye [Published on 20 Nov 2017]




  • #107
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Star Trek Continues have released posters, DVD and Blu-ray sleeves, and ISO images to download and burn to disc (although the ISO's still seem to be 'coming soon' at the moment).

    Pretty cool if you want to add them to a collection. Pity they weren't out a bit earlier, would have made a nice Christmas gift for someone.

    http://www.startrekcontinues.com/downloads.html


  • #108
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    Just bumping this thread as I came across this series on Youtube.

    It is excellent and I agree with other posters that you forget that this was a fan-service production. The visuals, costumes, FX, music, EVERYTHING is done with a micro level of detail. Yes there is some chewing of the scenery by some of the actors but the stories and the overall sense of love for TOS shines through the whole thing.


  • #109
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    Also checkout an older fan series.

    Star Trek 'New Voyages'/'Phase 2'

    Thread here:- https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104354003
    YT: - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCkxwocDze43XGhvUptIRFQ


    Your not the only one to resurface a thread, I did in the above thread as well.


  • #110
    Doodah7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,767 ✭✭✭Doodah7


    corkie wrote: »
    Also checkout an older fan series.

    Star Trek 'New Voyages'/'Phase 2'

    Thread here:- https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=104354003
    YT: - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCkxwocDze43XGhvUptIRFQ


    Your not the only one to resurface a thread, I did in the above thread as well.

    Ha!! I see I STARTED that thread way back in 2005!!


  • #111
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    I am posting this here, because I didn't want to start a new thread for a once of feature.

    Yorktown: A Time To Heal

    5 Apr 2022

    Starring James Shigeta & George Takei. Directed by Da Han.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4H8T8sTBgc

    YORKTOWN: A TIME TO HEAL (starring GEORGE TAKEI as Sulu) – the 37-year trek… (Part 1)

    I thought fan-fiction shows, where under strict rules now, so strange to see kind of recent content from the likes of Avalon Universe.



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  • #112
    Bobtheman
    Site Banned Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭Bobtheman


    Yes I watched it a long time ago and is good. Lot's of fan series floating around but this is the best.

    Its a shame it had to end but I think the owners of trek clamped down because a fan movie was being made in dubious circumstances



  • #113
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    I post here, instead of starting a new thread.

    For anyone watching Fan Productions? This 4 HOUR documentary airing tonight 18:00 might interest somebody?

    A ONE-OF-KIND documentary celebrates VANCE MAJOR and his 9-YEAR mission in FAN FILMMAKING!

    ^^^ Vance Major a.k.a Erick Minard, Chief Engineer of the STARSHIP VALIANT /Constar

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuaONi_6L-Y



  • #114
    corkie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,629 ✭✭✭corkie


    Call me Chato channel: -

    Vic Mignogna interview-Star Trek Continues. How much did it cost to make?

    12,179 views 7 May 2022

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRQ84jkzO8Y
    https://animemotivation.com/vic-mignogna-vs-daman-mills-controversy-anime/

    Didn't know Vic was effected by 'Cancel Culture' in 2019?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vic_Mignogna#Legal_issues




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