Manchester United Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours 2019/2020

Adamocovic wrote: »

Even as a Pogba fan safe to say I'm surprised he was selected by the PFA in the team of the year.

No doubt a perfect topic to kick off the thread

Lord TSC wrote: »

More and more, I think that when Ole got the job, it was made clear to certain people that there was going to be a massive rebuild in the summer, and the players downed tools as a result.

When you hear Ole saying "We need 5 or 6 new first team players"....I'm not saying it's bad man management, because he was being brutally honest. But I think there's a lot of the team have gotten the message they are considered problems in terms of quality, and have proven that then by sandbagging yet another manager.

When Jose went, in a way, I was glad. Because I had said I wanted a new manager in early enough to spend the rest of the season getting it realized that Jose wasn't THE problem (as much as he was A problem). THE problem is a lack of passion in the players. A lack of desire to fight for top four, let alone actual trophies.

I think Lukaku, for instance, realised that Rashford would be favoured over him super quickly and has never looked bothered under Ole.
I think Herrera and Mata realised that, and I think that's played a role in DDG's form too (given how close the trio are).
Pogba looks like whether Ole wanted him to leave or not, he himself wants off to easier pastures (not blaming him one way or other).
Martial got his contract, and reverted to the norm.

So basically, the entire spine of our team has had collective shrugs and given up.

And ultimately, I don't believe that's an Ole problem. I think whoever got appointed in his position would have faced similar.

The silver lining is that by giving Ole the contract early, we saw it happen in a season that was already written off, right before a transfer window. I'd be far, far happier it happened now than in October.

bucketybuck wrote: »

I still think the most interesting snippet from last night was Rashford stating that the players never call each other out in the dressing room.

You can really see it on the field. That right there is a squad that do not push each other, that do not make each other better, that tiptoe around underperforming team mates rather than confront them. I'd say there are a number of little cliques in that dressing room that do little except pat each other on the back and, most likely, passive aggressively marginalise anybody coming into the squad that doesn't adjust to that culture.

Thats why it is so hard for managers, trying motivate that lot must be like trying to motivate wet dough. You just know that if Ole is trying to give a rousing team talk that most of them are just sitting there with their heads down, that any sort of response would only be some fake chest thumping rather than any deeply felt passion.

That squad is rotten to the core, a new manager or new signing is nothing more than a lick of paint at this stage, it needs to be completely torn down and those sorts of attitudes purged with extreme prejudice.

Weepsie wrote: »

Pretty good in their half and he for once seemed to keep things simple. He has to talk a large amount of blame for their first goal though. He was strolling back (as he does most of the time) and left Bernardo Silva the entire left side to run at. That's basic stuff. Get back, keep the space tight and don't leave your fullback so exposed.


Pogba in the team of the year is fellow professionals taking the p!ss if you ask me, or modern footballers are even more immature than I gave them credit for