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Jupiter Mulligan · 08-06-2019 9:55pm

Deleted User wrote: »

He didn't raise a hand coming off there. Can't read into it too much but I'm concerned for the guy, I hope it's just a bit of a stun.

One small consolation is that he won't miss the final.

Donald Trumped · 12-06-2019 11:01am

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2019/0612/1054909-ogara-set-to-make-french-rugby-return-report/

sydthebeat · 12-06-2019 11:04am

fair fcuks to him..... brave move

vienne86 · 12-06-2019 12:31pm

Donald Trumped wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2019/0612/1054909-ogara-set-to-make-french-rugby-return-report/

Delighted for ROG. He has worked hard to earn his stripes. Really hope it works out for him. He obviously likes France, and I think the family are still there.

ScrubsfanChris · 15-06-2019 4:52pm

Anyone know what French channel the final is on?

thomond2006 · 15-06-2019 5:47pm

ScrubsfanChris wrote: »

Anyone know what French channel the final is on?

Canal+

errlloyd · 15-06-2019 6:05pm

It'll be on sky sports too right? My French is sketchy enough.

ScrubsfanChris · 15-06-2019 6:10pm

thomond2006 wrote: »

Canal+

Cheers

gooch2k9 · 15-06-2019 7:20pm

Iturria injured in the warmup.

Buer · 15-06-2019 7:36pm

gooch2k9 wrote:

Iturria injured in the warmup.

Significant advantage to Toulouse who will go after the Clermont line out.

Jupiter Mulligan · 15-06-2019 7:38pm

errlloyd wrote: »

It'll be on sky sports too right? My French is sketchy enough.

Given the number of foreign players on the pitch, a lot of what the ref says will probably be in English!

Jupiter Mulligan · 15-06-2019 7:39pm

Buer wrote: »

Significant advantage to Toulouse who will go after the Clermont line out.

They'd be better advised going after the ball! Vaahaaahaaaaminaaa can win all of the lineouts for CA.

thomond2006 · 15-06-2019 7:44pm

Streaming live on TV5 Monde.

http://live.tv5monde.com/europe.html

Burkie1203 · 15-06-2019 7:48pm

Macron shaking all 80000 fans hands before kick off by looks of it

gooch2k9 · 15-06-2019 7:50pm

Burkie1203 wrote: »

Macron shaking all 80000 fans hands before kick off by looks of it

With two or three shakes per grip!

Is it a Fijian thing to kneel like that?

Buer · 15-06-2019 8:07pm

Massive overlap for Clermont and they give it to Slimani. Get three points but should be going for seven.

gooch2k9 · 15-06-2019 8:11pm

Serious hit on Vahaamahina there!

Buer · 15-06-2019 8:31pm

Smart yellow to take from Kolbe.

troyzer · 15-06-2019 8:45pm

Slimani has been boring in on every single scrum.

Buer · 15-06-2019 9:13pm

Iturria badly missed. Several key Clermont throws have either been stolen or heavily disrupted.

No try given there but the steal on the 5m line leads to a 5m attacking scrum. Concede here and I don't see Clermont turning it around.

Buer · 15-06-2019 9:15pm

And Huget gets around. Should be a seven pointer.....and it is. Two score game with 25 to go.

Great hands from Toulouse.

ScrubsfanChris · 15-06-2019 9:27pm

Clermont look completely devoid of ideas, they're a shambles

thomond2006 · 15-06-2019 9:44pm

Toulouse win it. Kolbe gets a crucial turnover towards the end, Clermont get another chance with a scrum awarded with a second to go and go nowhere.

troyzer · 15-06-2019 9:46pm

Bit of a poor final in the end.

Buer · 15-06-2019 9:46pm

Despite the close score line, that was an extremely poor final. Two sides that love to run it in perfect conditions.... Clermont never got close to scoring a try in 80 minutes. Outside of their scrum, they had nothing tonight.

Toulouse for their part weren't anything special. They were smart and turned the screw at key moments, taking their chances. It's not hard to see why the T14 is the least successful league when it comes to Europe right now.

Tigerandahalf · 15-06-2019 9:52pm

Didn't see all the game but the Tolouse defence was very good. Fair play to the ex Connacht lad Pikhi (?) who played for Tolouse.

Mad season with the final in mid June.

I'd still like to see a 2 division (maybe more) European league. Don't think the top14 can sustain that amount of teams.

Jupiter Mulligan · 16-06-2019 1:12pm

Disappointing final. As, in fairness, is often the case. Hadn't realised that Garces was retiring after the RWC - he did reasonably well, although he blew for a scrum when Toulouse had a pretty good advantage - Ugo Mola went berserk!

I agreed with Barnes that the Clermont halves were poor, Cammy Lopez in particular had a pretty dire game. It's a shame that Parra was crocked and that Iturria missed out. A sad way for Ben Kayser to end his illustrious career. Once again I felt very sorry for Clermont's wonderful supporters.

In passing, I'll miss Dimitri Szarzewski too. Sad to see two great French hookers hanging up their boots in the same month. Good to see that his son may well carry on the family tradition! https://twitter.com/racing92/status/1134525970835279879

Heymans · 17-06-2019 12:09pm

Just a note on Clermont who I was really itching for to win. They really accelerate with all their players onto the ball and through the gainline. Toulouse didn't have the same talent in this regard and although they found weaknesses in the Clermont defence weren't as exciting taking the ball to the gainline like Clermont did. I would imagine although I don't know the stats that Clermont had lots more linebreaks in the game and it is exciting to watch.

This is something the Irish team should have been monitoring very closely with their problems about taking the ball static and shoveling on sh1t through the backline whilst standing and not accelerating onto the ball. Leinster had this problem also in the Champions Cup final - guys like Ringrose standing still while passing it on. It wasn't Saracens push up and in defence that caused this - there is an endemic problem creeping in to the Irish game in this respect.

Clermont are the most exciting team to watch in France despite losing this final to Toulouse and they have the blueprint of rugby I would like to see both Leinster and Ireland mirror in their upcoming season.

sydthebeat · 17-06-2019 12:22pm

Heymans wrote: »

I would imagine although I don't know the stats that Clermont had lots more linebreaks in the game and it is exciting to watch.

.

https://www.espn.com/rugby/matchstats?gameId=293235&league=270559

toulouse 7 - 6 clermont

clermont beat 2 more defenders though 25 - 23

shrapnel222 · 17-06-2019 9:30pm

Fantastic performance from the French u20s to get to the final. They just bullied and controlled that South african side incredibly well. 2 finals in a row is pretty impressive.

thomond2006 · 25-06-2019 10:40am

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http://www.rctoulon.com/news/article/saison-2019-2020-decouvrez-leffectif-poste-par-poste/

Toulon's 2019/20 squad is a good example of how the French clubs have had to evolve with the tightening of the JIFF quota. Just 11 players in the squad are non-JIFF (ETR above) and in the Top14 an average of 16 JIFF players must be used in matchday 23s. They've made an interesting signing in Gervais Cordin who has an impressive highlight reel while at Grenoble.

The column on the left shows the max number of non JIFF players allowed in club squads. The column on the right shows the average number of JIFF players in matchday squads (over the season) required to avoid a points deduction and access a 'JIFF fund'.

errlloyd · 25-06-2019 10:51am

Weird that they only see Savea as a centre now

Portsalon · 20-08-2019 10:44am

2019/20 season starts on Saturday evening.

The best game is probably on Sunday.

Fixtures:

Agen - Toulon
Castres - Montpellier
Lyon - Paris
Pau - Brive
Racing 92 - Bayonne
Bordeaux Bègles - Toulouse

Sunday: Clermont - La Rochelle

Nothing showing on Sky Sports yet. Hopefully they'll show Sunday's game.

molloyjh · 21-08-2019 4:06pm

I don't think Sky have the rights for the T14 anymore.

Burkie1203 · 21-08-2019 5:36pm

https://twitter.com/ugomonye/status/1164214189969354753?s=19

Portsalon · 21-08-2019 5:38pm

molloyjh wrote: »

I don't think Sky have the rights for the T14 anymore.

Hadn't realised that. Thanks. (Yet another reason for waving farewell to Sky Sports when my current 6 months special offer comes to an end.)

icdg · 21-08-2019 5:39pm

Seemingly there is no UK TV rights deal in place for the Top 14 this season for the first time in many, many years.

Tigerandahalf · 21-08-2019 5:56pm

icdg wrote: »

Seemingly there is no UK TV rights deal in place for the Top 14 this season for the first time in many, many years.

Sky are definitely tightening the purse strings.
Playing the long game with all these smaller rights holders. What value are the rights when not on the sky platform one wonders?

Rugby pass is getting tempting. You would want to chromecast it though.

Portsalon · 21-08-2019 5:57pm

icdg wrote: »

Seemingly there is no UK TV rights deal in place for the Top 14 this season for the first time in many, many years.

Interesting. I wonder has the LNR priced themselves out of the market or is the "product" not being watched by enough viewers (far too many predictable home wins) or perhaps the UK pay TV channels have decided that there's too much rugby available on TV as it is.

Digifriendly · 21-08-2019 6:22pm

I maybe wrong but can't see anyone pick up UK Top 14 rights quickly. If La Liga is struggling to get a permanent deal (present one with ITV is short term) it's difficult to see Top 14 cutting a deal soon. Premier Sports may be a long shot.

gooch2k9 · 21-08-2019 6:42pm

Tigerandahalf wrote: »

Sky are definitely tightening the purse strings.
Playing the long game with all these smaller rights holders. What value are the rights when not on the sky platform one wonders?

Rugby pass is getting tempting. You would want to chromecast it though.

Is Rugbypass available here or is internet wizardry required?

Tigerandahalf · 21-08-2019 8:03pm

gooch2k9 wrote: »

Is Rugbypass available here or is internet wizardry required?

The latter.

Interesting article here about Canal+ acquiring international rights for the next 4 years.
They would still need to sell on the rights to a package of 4 live matches every week it seems.
http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/top-14-canal-international-rights-rugby-france

I am not sure who takes the hit if no rights are sold.
It is a bit worrying the way all these leagues (pro14, top14, premiership) want to expand the value of their product overseas. They all seem to be rowing their own boat.

damianmcr · 21-08-2019 8:56pm

Ive read Rugbypass doesnt even work with some VPNs.

Eod100 · 01-09-2019 8:51am

Must have missed it but looks like Sky aren't showing Top 14 anymore?

kc66 · 01-09-2019 11:27am

Rugby Pass don't seem to have Top 14 rights. Don't see anything on the schedule on their website. Castres v Racing on at the moment and not showing on an IPTV subscription that includes Rugby Pass.

errlloyd · 01-09-2019 11:46am

I'm watching on Canal + but in French.

Some channel called espn scrum apparently has it.

Portsalon · 03-09-2019 9:45am

Early Top 14 table; probably meaningless in the longer term, but interesting to see Toulouse near the bottom!

ROG's boys need to improve their defence.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/top-14/table

Portsalon · 08-09-2019 10:34pm

After round three every team has won at least one game with only two having won all 3.

A good win for Brive, with Olding at 10, against Clermont and Toulouse broke their duck with a narrow win over Racing 92.

Table: https://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/top-14/table shows ROG's La Rochelle in last place.

ionadnapokot · 12-09-2019 10:41pm

Started watching the French RWC training vids. What struck me was what appeared to be actual coaching! Galthié is in there already and is hands on.
https://youtu.be/O3nskDM4QFM
They also have a new s&c guy- Thibault Giroud. He was previously at Glasgow.
Interesting side note - they have been training with the WC ball for 3 months now! Not one WC ball at any of the English or Irish training sessions.
This training block will surely improve the rabble that turned up in Lansdowne.
If they get their selections right; playing a FB at FB would be a start, they could go far with their quality.
Dupont at SH is one of the most exciting prospects in world rugby. Baptiste Serin is a dream backup. Fofana at 12 is another massive boost for them & Médard sideburns are bigger and bushier than ever!
Tipping/Hoping that they cause an upset England and send them home early. Again!

My guess at the XV vArg
Médard/Ramos; Penaud, Guitoune, Fofana, Huget; Lopez, Dupont; Poirot, Guirado, Slimani; Taofifenua, Vahahaha; Iturria, Alldritt/Camara, Picamoles.

Edit: who is going to replace Gabrillagues in the second row? Taofifenua? Find it strange they have only 3 second rows.

sydthebeat · 12-09-2019 10:46pm

Is gabrillagues not suspended... And is the center partnership not preferred as fickou and fofana??

Love your spelling of vahaamahina too

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