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Garda Public Order Unit

  • 22-10-2020 9:32pm
    #1
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭


    Why is the Garda Public Order Unit not deployed a lot more often to deal with these nuisance protesters who have nothing better to be at. I mean the troublesome protesters like she who shall not be named and all the other Muppets who shout peaceful protest and try to involve the constitution at every opportunity even though none of them have a clue about what the constitution actually means? If I were in charge I'd release the Public Order Unit every day until these malcontents get the hint.


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  • #2
    AllForIt
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,477 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/11-arrested-as-gardai-forced-to-intervene-at-anti-lockdown-protest-in-dublin-39657380.html


  • #3
    Tristram
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,591 ✭✭✭Tristram


    Who are these people?!


  • #4
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    AllForIt wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/11-arrested-as-gardai-forced-to-intervene-at-anti-lockdown-protest-in-dublin-39657380.html

    Exactly. Today inspired my post. They seem to be way under utilised. Send them out ta **** and let them have their fun with the "peaceful protestors". I think 99% of the country would be glad to see it


  • #5
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Tristram wrote: »
    Who are these people?!

    People with nothing else to do but cause trouble


  • #6
    Feisar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,698 ✭✭✭Feisar


    Infernal Racket wrote: »
    Why is the Garda Public Order Unit not deployed a lot more often to deal with these nuisance protesters who have nothing better to be at. I mean the troublesome protesters like she who shall not be named and all the other Muppets who shout peaceful protest and try to involve the constitution at every opportunity even though none of them have a clue about what the constitution actually means? If I were in charge I'd release the Public Order Unit every day until these malcontents get the hint.

    "Cry havoc! And let slip the dogs of war."

    First they came for the socialists...



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  • #7
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Beat/Restrain them, arrest them, charge them and repeat as required. They'll soon get fed up


  • #8
    Potential-Monke
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,282 ✭✭✭✭Potential-Monke


    Because the Public Order Unit is made up of regular members who are assigned the duty (and have the training completed). They're not full time if I recall, so in order to use them members from other stations/areas have to give up their duties to perform the public order duties, leaving other stations short. There are not enough members to have a full time public order unit.


  • #9
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Potential-Monke wrote: »
    Because the Public Order Unit is made up of regular members who are assigned the duty (and have the training completed). They're not full time if I recall, so in order to use them members from other stations/areas have to give up their duties to perform the public order duties, leaving other stations short. There are not enough members to have a full time public order unit.

    Correct and the members called into the Public Order Unit to police events are likely on rest days so it means paying overtime for them to work and we know how much everyone hates the Gardai claiming overtime


  • #10
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    No worse than the ‘BLM’ protests at the height of the first lockdown.


  • #11
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Clowns with their Ireland flags claiming to be "patriots" need a good walloping.

    "Yerrrrra brainwashed by the meeeja" this wan was shouting at a security guard on Henry St yesterday when she wasn't allowed in for no mask.

    Useless knobs, the lot of them.


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  • #12
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Public order training is great craic....until it gets rough, then its no craic.

    Heres a clip of a combined DF/AGS/NAS public order training.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=F9yoT5zN8Io

    Its a soft one, usually they are much rougher.


  • #13
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Killinator wrote: »
    Correct and the members called into the Public Order Unit to police events are likely on rest days so it means paying overtime for them to work and we know how much everyone hates the Gardai claiming overtime

    There are Guards standing on Motorways for the last 3 weeks waving at people and the vast majority of them are on overtime. Public Order Units are money well spent in my humble opinion


  • #14
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    No worse than the ‘BLM’ protests at the height of the first lockdown.

    Beat them all. Wade in.


  • #15
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Infernal Racket wrote: »
    There are Guards standing on Motorways for the last 3 weeks waving at people and the vast majority of them are on overtime. Public Order Units are money well spent in my humble opinion

    The Gardai standing on motorways are not trained public order members and there isn't enough trained public order members to maintain a constant presence so either way the Gardai on the motorway aren't effecting them either way


  • #16
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    An Ri rua wrote: »
    Beat them all. Wade in.

    Water canon to beat them while socially distancing.


  • #17
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    Killinator wrote: »
    The Gardai standing on motorways are not trained public order members and there isn't enough trained public order members to maintain a constant presence so either way the Gardai on the motorway aren't effecting them either way

    So you're saying there simply aren't enough public order trained guards to deal with these protests? Well that's just great so. How are they ever gonna sort the problem out then? Its a free for all for the great unwashed


  • #18
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    Infernal Racket wrote: »
    So you're saying there simply aren't enough public order trained guards to deal with these protests? Well that's just great so. How are they ever gonna sort the problem out then? Its a free for all for the great unwashed

    Pretty much, like every other unit, there aren't enough


  • #19
    gandalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,458 ✭✭✭✭gandalf


    Great seeing them finally take these covidiots on. Hopefully they deal with these so called anti-maskers permanently like this from now onwards!


  • #20
    thenightman
    Registered Users Posts: 561 ✭✭✭thenightman


    Public Order unit are just regular guards who've undertaken the training. They aren't a full time unit & are all on OT on days off.

    Also, the majority of these protesters are craving a reaction from the guards/state so they can scream oppression and use it for police brutality propaganda purposes. If they aren't violent and aren't causing damage, best thing you can do is let them whine themselves out. Certainly not worth filling up every cell in the city centre with them. In the days pre camera phone you'd ideally just give them a hiding and be done with it.


  • #21
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,687 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    Infernal Racket wrote: »
    So you're saying there simply aren't enough public order trained guards to deal with these protests? Well that's just great so. How are they ever gonna sort the problem out then? Its a free for all for the great unwashed

    Almost every soldier is public order trained.

    Not that they would be routinely requested to deploy but have been on stand by a number of times.

    The army have trained AGS members, no idea why they arent all trained in Templemore.


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  • #22
    theguzman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭theguzman


    So there was multiple protests in Ireland by Nigerians about Police Brutality in Nigeria as if holding a protest here would actually make any difference, this was allowed despite breaking social distancing etc. the guards actually facilitated it and helped them. A protest by Irish then against the lockdown sees the Irish get hammered by the Gardai. Will the Nigerians protest against Garda brutality in Lagos tomorrow?, now with all things being equal shouldn't both groups either get helped and facilitated or else equally thrashed by the Guards. Perhaps the GO'D crew should recruit a few of the SARS Nigerians onto their side because it seems the Guards are afraid to challenge them for fear of being labelled racist.


  • #23
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    gandalf wrote: »
    Great seeing them finally take these covidiots on. Hopefully they deal with these so called anti-maskers permanently like this from now onwards!


    nice.only those you agree with should protest , i assume.


  • #24
    paw patrol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    sure if they are wrecking the place wade in and lay the smackdown accordingly but protests shouldn't be interfered with.


  • #25
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,487 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    Water canon to beat them while socially distancing.

    Fill it with soapy water. It will help suppress the virus.


  • #26
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭circadian


    theguzman wrote: »
    So there was multiple protests in Ireland by Nigerians about Police Brutality in Nigeria as if holding a protest here would actually make any difference, this was allowed despite breaking social distancing etc. the guards actually facilitated it and helped them. A protest by Irish then against the lockdown sees the Irish get hammered by the Gardai. Will the Nigerians protest against Garda brutality in Lagos tomorrow?, now with all things being equal shouldn't both groups either get helped and facilitated or else equally thrashed by the Guards. Perhaps the GO'D crew should recruit a few of the SARS Nigerians onto their side because it seems the Guards are afraid to challenge them for fear of being labelled racist.

    I'd love to see some sources for this considering your post history is full of ****.


  • #27
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Fill it with soapy water. It will help suppress the virus.

    Or piss. People won’t want to be close to people who smell of piss.


  • #28
    circadian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,036 ✭✭✭circadian


    Rodney Bathgate wrote: »
    Or piss. People won’t want to be close to people who smell of piss.

    What if it's a group of R Kelly fanatics?


  • #29
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    theguzman wrote: »
    So there was multiple protests in Ireland by Nigerians about Police Brutality in Nigeria as if holding a protest here would actually make any difference, this was allowed despite breaking social distancing etc. the guards actually facilitated it and helped them. A protest by Irish then against the lockdown sees the Irish get hammered by the Gardai. Will the Nigerians protest against Garda brutality in Lagos tomorrow?, now with all things being equal shouldn't both groups either get helped and facilitated or else equally thrashed by the Guards. Perhaps the GO'D crew should recruit a few of the SARS Nigerians onto their side because it seems the Guards are afraid to challenge them for fear of being labelled racist.

    The Nigerians knew how to have manners at their protests. Our clowns didn't and therefore got a hiding and arrested. Which was wonderful to see. I'm all for peaceful protesting but this rent a mob anti mask crew should be hammered every time they step out of line


  • #30
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    theguzman wrote: »
    So there was multiple protests in Ireland by Nigerians about Police Brutality in Nigeria as if holding a protest here would actually make any difference, this was allowed despite breaking social distancing etc. the guards actually facilitated it and helped them. A protest by Irish then against the lockdown sees the Irish get hammered by the Gardai. Will the Nigerians protest against Garda brutality in Lagos tomorrow?, now with all things being equal shouldn't both groups either get helped and facilitated or else equally thrashed by the Guards. Perhaps the GO'D crew should recruit a few of the SARS Nigerians onto their side because it seems the Guards are afraid to challenge them for fear of being labelled racist.

    The Nigerians knew how to have manners at their protests. Our clowns didn't and therefore got a hiding and arrested. Which was wonderful to see. I'm all for peaceful protesting but this rent a mob anti mask crew should be hammered every time they step out of line


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  • #31
    SeaFields
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    There was a great video doing the rounds the other day of armed Gardai arresting the usual turds of society who were carrying machetes. You wouldn't have looked twice at the armed Garda with his gun in your face shouting at you to stay down. Brilliant stuff like the public order unit.

    There's plenty out there for whom policing by consent is a non runner.


  • #32
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 5,121 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tristram wrote: »
    Who are these people?!
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057990439&page=211
    Long thread here if you are willing to lose time and braincells.


  • #33
    Infernal Racket
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,418 ✭✭✭Infernal Racket


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057990439&page=211
    Long thread here if you are willing to lose time and braincells.

    I have nowhere near enough brain cells left to waste time on a Gemma article


  • #34
    corner of hells
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,409 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    Fighting Tao wrote: »
    Fill it with soapy water. It will help suppress the virus.

    Excellent idea , some of them looked like they hadn't washed in a week or two.


  • #35
    Rodney Bathgate
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,445 ✭✭✭Rodney Bathgate


    circadian wrote: »
    What if it's a group of R Kelly fanatics?

    Sick ****s. Substitute piss for liquid faeces.


  • #36
    An Ri rua
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    Well done the Guards. Mill them out of it. Use the elbow, the wrist. Get in there my son!!


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  • #37
    Divisadero
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭Divisadero


    Yes they have regular duties and are on call for riot situations. Although in recent years they have been utilised a lot more for non-riot scenarios. For example patrolling Temple Bar and searches on large traveller encampments.

    Regarding the protestors in Dublin. They should not even be allowed to gather in the first place during the Covid emergency. It is a waste of money having the Guards babysittng these clowns and an insult to those trying their best to follow the Covid guidelines.

    They should be given a 5 minute warning to clear the area and those that remain should be baton charged off the streets. The regular guards would be well able to do it as they receive basic public order training and have done so in the past. That would send a message and reduce the risk of these 'protestors' spreading Covid. And is easier and less costly than trying to keep two sides apart as they had to do last week outside the Dail. That's how any large gathering by any group regardless of the reason should be dealt with during Covid Restrictions. Right to protest is no excuse at a time like this. If temporary legislation is needed then bring it in.This is too serious.

    Our Govt don't have the spine for it but it's a much better use of Garda resources. After Covid people can protest again as normal.


  • #38
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,477 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Why is everyone so obsessed with these protesters?


  • #39
    Divisadero
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭Divisadero


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Why is everyone so obsessed with these protesters?

    Not just protesters any large gathering.


  • #40
    Zebra3
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    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Why is everyone so obsessed with these protesters?

    Why is everyone so obsessed with state violence?


  • #41
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,496 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    gandalf wrote: »
    Great seeing them finally take these covidiots on. Hopefully they deal with these so called anti-maskers permanently like this from now onwards!

    They should fine and arrest if won't pay
    https://forumofgames.com/




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  • #42
    ShatterAlan
    Registered Users Posts: 2,807 ✭✭✭ShatterAlan


    Killinator wrote: »
    The Gardai standing on motorways are not trained public order members and there isn't enough trained public order members to maintain a constant presence so either way the Gardai on the motorway aren't effecting them either way


    Either way?


  • #43
    Killinator
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,505 ✭✭✭Killinator


    ShatterAlan wrote: »
    Either way?

    The Gardai on the motorway are not effecting the number of public order members whether they are on the motorway or not


  • #44
    tjdaly
    Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭tjdaly


    However else you feel the need to characterise them, I think you'll find that these are political protests directed towards what a growing body of scientists and public figures consider to be unnecessary and harmful restrictions which are setting a dangerous precedence regarding people's civil liberties in society.

    But no surprise to see a nasty strain of classism mixed in with the usual grubby cheerleading for authoritarian crackdowns from the lazy armchair warriors on here who would likely never be brave enough to protest anything for fear of embarrassment, and instead prefer to snipe from the sidelines like the pathetic dopey useful idiot nobodies that they are.


  • #45
    Divisadero
    Registered Users Posts: 311 ✭✭Divisadero


    You sound like a real hero. Fair play. I have attended protests. I have even taken Annual Leave from work to do so. Not just because I had nothing better to do. But now is not the time when we are sacrificing so much. We don't need idiots reducing the chances of success of these rolling lockdowns. Which for me is keeping our hospitals functioning in the short term. I have no interest in a police state and would protest against one. But I would have no issue with the Guards clearing the streets of any protesters for any cause or from any class while we are under these restrictions. In fact I wish they would rather than wasting money and time facilitating their antics. That includes Yellow Vest, BLM protestors or whatever. Not only protestors but any large gathering such as GAA or Rugby Supporters.

    When we are out of restrictions they can protest away.


  • #46
    dxhound2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,387 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    tjdaly wrote: »
    However else you feel the need to characterise them, I think you'll find that these are political protests directed towards what a growing body of scientists and public figures consider to be unnecessary and harmful restrictions which are setting a dangerous precedence regarding people's civil liberties in society.

    Who are these people??


  • #47
    Montage of Feck
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,699 ✭✭✭Montage of Feck


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    Why is everyone so obsessed with state violence?

    People are angry and want heads cracked open.

    🙈🙉🙊



  • #48
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    tjdaly wrote: »
    However else you feel the need to characterise them, I think you'll find that these are political protests directed towards what a growing body of scientists and public figures consider to be unnecessary and harmful restrictions which are setting a dangerous precedence regarding people's civil liberties in society.

    But no surprise to see a nasty strain of classism mixed in with the usual grubby cheerleading for authoritarian crackdowns from the lazy armchair warriors on here who would likely never be brave enough to protest anything for fear of embarrassment, and instead prefer to snipe from the sidelines like the pathetic dopey useful idiot nobodies that they are.

    Wipe the dirtbirds off the street


  • #49
    TallGlass2
    Registered Users Posts: 685 ✭✭✭TallGlass2


    Imagine a car used for spare parts, various parts missing etc... This is the best way to describe the regular unit in the Garda and this unit at a guess does about 80/85% of the daily workload.


  • #50
    timeToLive
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 283 ✭✭timeToLive


    Infernal Racket wrote: »
    Why is the Garda Public Order Unit not deployed a lot more often to deal with these nuisance protesters who have nothing better to be at. I mean the troublesome protesters like she who shall not be named and all the other Muppets who shout peaceful protest and try to involve the constitution at every opportunity even though none of them have a clue about what the constitution actually means? If I were in charge I'd release the Public Order Unit every day until these malcontents get the hint.


    Well if they didn't stop the BLM protestors then they shouldn't really stop these ones either...


  • #51
    Heart Break Kid
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 834 ✭✭✭Heart Break Kid


    I’d say an overuse of the public order unit may also hurt the image of your local community Garda


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