Sean O'Rourke Today Show

BarryD2 · 11-02-2020 11:44am

Sounds like Mammy O'Rourke should join Sinn Féin as a spokesgranny?

Toibín sounds ready & willing to merge back and then there's Carol Nolan - soon they'll be up to 40. John McGuinness would be a likely switcher too.

serfboard · 11-02-2020 3:01pm

We wanted to have someone on the programme from Sinn Fein, says Sean, but no-one would come on or was available on the phone.

That's because they're all up in Belfast getting instructions.

12-02-2020 11:20am

Turned on show this morning shortly after started. Interviewing 1 of the Healy - Rae dynasty.

omfg. monologue .... turned the rant straight off.

Whestsidestory · 12-02-2020 11:22am

Except it's not a Healy-Rae!

BarryD2 · 12-02-2020 11:25am

Deleted User wrote: »

Turned on show this morning shortly after started. Interviewing 1 of the Healy - Rae dynasty.

omfg. monologue .... turned the rant straight off.

You missed Lord Ross getting an earful - the painful truth of life outside the moat, down in de shticks.

BarryD2 · 12-02-2020 11:26am

A Sinn Féin spokesperson appears !!!!!!!!! We can add Louise O'Reilly to the small panel of trusted SF voices.

Bríd Smith must have a caravan in the RTE carpark, she's on that regularly. Hopefully she'll actually offer to do something now instead of moaning.

Mad_maxx · 12-02-2020 1:10pm

BarryD2 wrote: »

A Sinn Féin spokesperson appears !!!!!!!!! We can add Louise O'Reilly to the small panel of trusted SF voices.

Bríd Smith must have a caravan in the RTE carpark, she's on that regularly. Hopefully she'll actually offer to do something now instead of moaning.

The communist left have always had an open door to RTE

serfboard · 12-02-2020 4:00pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Turned on show this morning shortly after started. Interviewing 1 of the Healy - Rae dynasty.

omfg. monologue .... turned the rant straight off.

Whestsidestory wrote: »

Except it's not a Healy-Rae!

Indeed it was not. It was Independent TD Michael Collins from Cork South-West, who in fairness, sounds like a Healy-Rae.

It was a recording of a victory speech he gave, in which he celebrated the fact that Shane Ross had lost his seat.

Interviewing him on the programme, Sean asked him "How late at night was that - and was there drink taken?"

generalgerry · 13-02-2020 12:38pm

Jesus Christ will you grow a pair, Sean. Why is she allowed to talk about all men as being sexual predators.

Women have been well able to use their sexuality to get where they want, you never hear that being spoken about.

gormdubhgorm · 19-02-2020 12:18pm

Is this one of these 'I am not a racist but'.... jobs?
At one stage Independent councilor from Offaly (John Leahy) let slip 'Irish citizens' then changed it to 'people' being jumped in the queue by migrants.

Diceicle · 19-02-2020 12:27pm

gormdubhgorm wrote: »

Is this one of these 'I am not a racist but'.... jobs?
At one stage Independent councilor from Offaly (John Leahy) let slip 'Irish citizens' then changed it to 'people' being jumped in the queue by migrants.

I'll give it a listen on podcast later, but from what you post above, it sounds like a reasonable position.

serfboard · 19-02-2020 1:53pm

Listening to the unionist (Jim Wells?) on the show this morning shows you how deluded Sinn Fein are. Well, either they're deluded or they know well there's no United Ireland or indeed Border Poll coming and are doing it to satisfy the Belfast Boys.

According to the latest poll, 99% of the Unionist community don't want a United Ireland. That means that they won't want to sit down and talk about a referendum either.

And your one from the Andersonstown News wasn't much better. She said something to the effect that people will vote along economic lines.

As Brexit and even the recent Irish General Election have shown, people often vote along emotional lines, so the promise of sunlit uplands in a new Hibernia won't make a million people feel less British.

elperello · 19-02-2020 2:04pm

serfboard wrote: »

Listening to the unionist (Jim Wilson?) on the show this morning shows you how deluded Sinn Fein are. Well, either they're deluded or they know well there's no United Ireland or indeed Border Poll coming and are doing it to satisfy the Belfast Boys.

According to the latest poll, 99% of the Unionist community don't want a United Ireland. That means that they won't want to sit down and talk about a referendum either.

And your one from the Andersonstown News wasn't much better. She said something to the effect that people will vote along economic lines.

As Brexit and even the recent Irish General Election have shown, people often vote along emotional lines, so the promise of sunlit uplands in a new Hibernia won't make a million people feel less British.

Jim Wells DUP.

Kind of goes with the job description.After all how could a Unionist want to break the Union?

I'm sure the voters of Sligo-Leitrim were delighted to hear him congratulating Frankie Feighan.

An endorsement from the conservative wing of the DUP should do wonders for him next time out.

serfboard · 19-02-2020 2:49pm

elperello wrote: »

how could a Unionist want to break the Union?

Exactly my point. Unionists are British, and nothing is going to make them feel any different. Why would they sit around and talk about conditions for a Border Poll when they are absolutely opposed to it?

As the late Seamus Mallon said, a border poll that results in a 50%+1 result for a United Ireland would be absolutely useless.

elperello wrote: »

I'm sure the voters of Sligo-Leitrim were delighted to hear him congratulating Frankie Feighan.

An endorsement from the conservative wing of the DUP should do wonders for him next time out.

Yeah - I bet Frankie could have done without that endorsement alright!

24-02-2020 12:20pm

Interview between partner of possible deportee now.
Well balanced by Sean. Ann Rabbitte Galway east involved on family behalf

generalgerry · 24-02-2020 12:32pm

Amazing to hear this bleeding heart speaking in defence of Love Island.

serfboard · 24-02-2020 1:33pm

generalgerry wrote: »

Amazing to hear this bleeding heart speaking in defence of Love Island.

Care to elaborate? Who was speaking and what were they saying?

24-02-2020 7:04pm

Hope your feelings aren't hurt Gerry, subject released from clover prison and won't be deported for now.

hotmail.com · 24-02-2020 7:22pm

generalgerry wrote: »

Amazing to hear this bleeding heart speaking in defence of Love Island.

Lots of reasons to dislike the programme, but the Helen Lovejoy one brought up sex as part of her opening argument.

She lost me at that.

jay0109 · 24-02-2020 11:08pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hope your feelings aren't hurt Gerry, subject released from clover prison and won't be deported for now.

Ireland's immigration system is a one way street. No matter how illegal you are, you rarely get shown the door.
Just run to the compliant Media and they'll pressure the soft Minister.

Joke of a system

generalgerry · 24-02-2020 11:27pm

Deleted User wrote: »

Hope your feelings aren't hurt Gerry, subject released from clover prison and won't be deported for now.

What are you smoking I didn't even comment about the immigration topic, I was talking about the discussion on Love Island, you clown.

Loafing Oaf · 26-02-2020 11:10am

Doctor talking about virus outbreak: "I don't think people should panic unnecessarily about this."

sligojoek · 26-02-2020 11:23am

Mannix Flynn says NO

ShamNNspace · 26-02-2020 11:25am

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Doctor talking about virus outbreak: "I don't think people should panic unnecessarily about this."

He seemed to be quite blasé about the whole business

BarryD2 · 26-02-2020 11:28am

Not very convincing advice, confused even. Basically it seems we're going to do very little to reduce the possibility of the flu getting here but once it does, well we'll then go into panic mode.

Wash yer hands and we'll all be grand.......

elperello · 26-02-2020 2:12pm

If things get really bad they have isolation units (a trolly in a broom cupboard) in every hospital.

generalgerry · 28-02-2020 11:33am

Why are they protecting the anonymity of the person who brought the virus to this country. They should be named and taken into isolation.

Callan57 · 28-02-2020 11:45am

generalgerry wrote: »

Why are they protecting the anonymity of the person who brought the virus to this country. They should be named and taken into isolation.

Probably because the country is full of headbangers

I see no reason to violate the persons privacy but surely it would aleviate a lot of unnecessary stress if they were to say what flight from Italy was used and the mode of travel to NI.

generalgerry · 28-02-2020 11:46am

How in God's name are you meant to know if you are in danger or not if they wont even let people know what train, plane and automobile the woman was on. Ridiculous, but what would you expect from Harris.

Fair play to Sean O'Rourke for picking him up on his nonsense.

FrancieBrady · 28-02-2020 11:51am

generalgerry wrote: »

How in God's name are you meant to know if you are in danger or not if they wont even let people know what train, plane and automobile the woman was on. Ridiculous, but what would you expect from Harris.

Fair play to Sean O'Rourke for picking him up on his nonsense.

Missed the start of it...what is Harris's concern here?

mgn · 28-02-2020 11:53am

Thank f*ck we wont have to listen to that clown Harris for much longer

generalgerry · 28-02-2020 11:53am

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Missed the start of it...what is Harris's concern here?

The anonymity of the woman who brought the virus in to the country. It's a good interview with O'Rourke, worth a listen back.

I think if anybody wonders why Sean O'Rourke is going to retire from the job, they should just listen to the frustration of trying to get a straight answer from Simon Harris today.

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 12:05pm

generalgerry wrote: »

How in God's name are you meant to know if you are in danger or not if they wont even let people know what train, plane and automobile the woman was on. Ridiculous, but what would you expect from Harris.

Fair play to Sean O'Rourke for picking him up on his nonsense.

Fair play to Harris, every nutjob in the country texting in with bullschidt and bolloxology.

Bottom line, the experts say all folk who have been in need of contact have been contacted.

That’s good enough for me, there are times when one needs to trust the experts, we do it every day.

O’Rourke asking if Harris would stake his career on the doctors advice?

Did you ever hear such rubbish.... he has to accept the advice, he not a doctor... very poor of O’Rourke.

No we prefer to listen to some dough boy eating chips in his taxi texting in bull.

Grow the fchuurk up folk........

glasspicklejar · 28-02-2020 12:49pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

Fair play to Harris, every nutjob in the country texting in with bullschidt and bolloxology.

Bottom line, the experts say all folk who have been in need of contact have been contacted.

That’s good enough for me, there are times when one needs to trust the experts, we do it every day.

O’Rourke asking if Harris would stake his career on the doctors advice?

Did you ever hear such rubbish.... he has to accept the advice, he not a doctor... very poor of O’Rourke.

No we prefer to listen to some dough boy eating chips in his taxi texting in bull.

Grow the fchuurk up folk........

To make this more general... If a user of public transport was identified as having Covid-19 and the HSE knew they travelled on bus ABC at 13:50 on this date between locations X and Y, how would the HSE identify the other passengers on that bus? I agree that we have to trust the experts, but just answer that hypothetical question.

If in this case of Italy- Dublin- Belfast they are 100% sure they have contacted the other users of the form of transport, it must have been a taxi where the other users were know to the patient.

terryduff12 · 28-02-2020 12:58pm

Trust the experts �� how good did they deal with the CervicalCheck scandal on the ball were they? Experts also are in charge of building a cheap hospital in Dublin.

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 2:11pm

glasspicklejar wrote: »

To make this more general... If a user of public transport was identified as having Covid-19 and the HSE knew they travelled on bus ABC at 13:50 on this date between locations X and Y, how would the HSE identify the other passengers on that bus? I agree that we have to trust the experts, but just answer that hypothetical question.

If in this case of Italy- Dublin- Belfast they are 100% sure they have contacted the other users of the form of transport, it must have been a taxi where the other users were know to the patient.

I have no idea glass, no idea.

It is none of my business,and nothing to do with me , not my skill set.

However if the chief qualified officer in charge announces that all those who need to be contacted have been contacted that’s good enough for me in this event.

I was laughing at all these ‘ contributors’ who were countering with other issues.

They must be all living in an ideal world where nothing ever goes wrong.

If I send in my motor in to a qualified person for a service and am told the car is fully serviced,I don’t drive it home and start checking everything in detail, I take the engineers report.

FFS let’s have a bit of sense here, O’Rourke was way over the top here.

elperello · 28-02-2020 2:33pm

HSE has poor credibility among the public.

Harris knows this and still even on his way out the door he allows himself to be a mouthpiece for "experts".

Colm Brophy's ham fisted attack on S'OR only served to make a bad situation worse.

FrancieBrady · 28-02-2020 2:37pm

Minister who disappeared for two months to avoid accountability and scrutiny, avoids questions on his competence. Those asking the questions get attacked on here instead.

Surprised?

glasspicklejar · 28-02-2020 2:39pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

I have no idea glass, no idea.

It is none of my business,and nothing to do with me , not my skill set.

However if the chief qualified officer in charge announces that all those who need to be contacted have been contacted that’s good enough for me in this event.

So the news suggests it was the Enterprise train and anyone can buy a ticket on that train, don't have to reserve online, etc... So how does the chief qualified officer know? I appreciate I'm not a doctor, but my question isn't a clinical one, just a simple 'How do you identify people that were on a train if they can just buy a ticket with cash and board the train?'

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 2:40pm

elperello wrote: »

HSE has poor credibility among the public.

Harris knows this and still even on his way out the door he allows himself to be a mouthpiece for "experts".

Colm Brophy's ham fisted attack on S'OR only served to make a bad situation worse.

What should he do, tell the fully qualified and trained people to stand aside and take over himself although totally unqualified professionally in any medical field?

Great idea that :rolleyes:

mikep · 28-02-2020 2:40pm

Areas of the HSE has poor credibility OK but when the SARS virus was on the go it was detected Sligo ( I think) the hospital there ran things according to the relevant protocol and contained the situation. HSE deserve some credit where it is due.
Yesterday another expert on the radio stated that they were very satisfied on how the HSE experts were handling things..

Sometimes we have to allow the professionals to do their job without the constant, ill informed, commentary/scare mongering..

Nevin Parsnipp · 28-02-2020 2:42pm

elperello wrote: »

HSE has poor credibility among the public.

Harris knows this and still even on his way out the door he allows himself to be a mouthpiece for "experts".

Colm Brophy's ham fisted attack on S'OR only served to make a bad situation worse.

Wouldn't call it ham fisted.....those baloon trousered fat cats in RTE need to be called out on occasion.

O'Rourke is generally fair and balanced ...but his treatment of Minister Harris was way out of order and properly called out by Brophy.

elperello · 28-02-2020 2:48pm

No problem with the professionals doing the best they can with the resources available to them.

Harris was on national radio supposedly to communicate with the public.

He should have taken charge of the narrative rather than remain the prisoner of "advisers".

mikep · 28-02-2020 2:53pm

I expect the "advisers" in this case are the experts who know what they are talking about.

I didn't hear him on SOR but when he was on D+D of TFM he was relaying what he has been told by the experts...that is his job..He doesn't need to know more than them and thankfully is not running about making statements that aren't based on expert advice..

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 3:03pm

glasspicklejar wrote: »

So the news suggests it was the Enterprise train and anyone can buy a ticket on that train, don't have to reserve online, etc... So how does the chief qualified officer know? I appreciate I'm not a doctor, but my question isn't a clinical one, just a simple 'How do you identify people that were on a train if they can just buy a ticket with cash and board the train?'

I have no idea, and the news doesn’t know either, but somebody knows and the chief medical officer has pointed out that all those who needed to be contacted have been contacted.

There’s the answer,glass, there’s loads of stuff the public are not party to for obvious reasons, otherwise these tools and nut cases would start the conspiracy theories and cause total panic.

Bit of sense glass, that’s all that’s required, stay calm, don’t panic.

Simples.

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 3:15pm

elperello wrote: »

No problem with the professionals doing the best they can with the resources available to them.

Harris was on national radio supposedly to communicate with the public.

He should have taken charge of the narrative rather than remain the prisoner of "advisers".

He did communicate, just you didn’t like it,and couldn’t resist having a ‘cut’ and showing your lack of understanding how situations like this are best handled.

Every event like this has its uninformed band of stirrers .

elperello · 28-02-2020 3:34pm

Nevin Parsnipp wrote: »

Wouldn't call it ham fisted.....those baloon trousered fat cats in RTE need to be called out on occasion.

O'Rourke is generally fair and balanced ...but his treatment of Minister Harris was way out of order and properly called out by Brophy.

S'OR was doing his job.
Brophy didn't call him out he attacked his reputation as a journalist.

elperello · 28-02-2020 3:35pm

Brendan Bendar wrote: »

He did communicate, just you didn’t like it,and couldn’t resist having a ‘cut’ and showing your lack of understanding how situations like this are best handled.

Every event like this has its uninformed band of stirrers .

Hopeless ad hominem attack.

Brendan Bendar · 28-02-2020 3:55pm

elperello wrote: »

Hopeless ad hominem attack.

In what way...

elperello · 28-02-2020 4:00pm

I don't lack understanding.
I'm not uninformed.
I'm not a stirrer.

But then it's not all about you and me.

Sean O'Rourke Today Show

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