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Ryanair to offer cadetships like EI.

  • 23-02-2020 4:37pm
    #1
    Crock Rock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭


    https://www.joe.ie/business/ryanair-400-pilots-training-programme-693495

    Not the most reliable source. Sorry.

    It does say ab initio so from zero to ATPL with 738 type ratings it seems. I wonder will they have the same pull as EI does when they offer cadetships.

    The article says that FR are "seeking highly trained pilots" but then goes on to describe the training as ab-initio.

    They'll probably have a training and type rating bond.


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  • #2
    General Disarray
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 60 ✭✭General Disarray


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    https://www.joe.ie/business/ryanair-400-pilots-training-programme-693495

    Not the most reliable source. Sorry.

    It does say ab initio so from zero to ATPL with 738 type ratings it seems. I wonder will they have the same pull as EI does when they offer cadetships.

    The article says that FR are "seeking highly trained pilots" but then goes on to describe the training as ab-initio.

    They'll probably have a training and type rating bond.
    While at the same time they're making pilots in bases redundant.


  • #3
    Locker10a
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 4,185 Mod ✭✭✭✭Locker10a


    General Disarray wrote: »
    While at the same time they're making pilots in bases redundant.

    Yeah I think it’s mainly unionised bases that’s happening, they’re trying to get everyone back to being self employed contractors where you’ve basically no rights and they’ve little to no responsibility


  • #4
    Astral Nav
    Registered Users Posts: 131 ✭✭Astral Nav


    Yes, I'm sure it will be just like EI...


  • #5
    Crock Rock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Anyone going for this?

    This doesn't seem to have even a fraction of the coverage EI would have if they offered one.


  • #6
    Paso Fino
    Registered Users Posts: 332 ✭✭Paso Fino


    I contacted the school who told me that it's a subsidised course - it's still going to set you back 77.5k though!


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  • #7
    Crock Rock
    Closed Accounts Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Crock Rock


    Paso Fino wrote: »
    I contacted the school who told me that it's a subsidised course - it's still going to set you back 77.5k though!

    Not very subsidised then.
    Considering you can go from zero to hero for similar money with a modular course.


  • #8
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,461 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Is that 77k needed in cash or some claw back from Ryanair from future salary?


  • #9
    Stovepipe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,984 ✭✭✭Stovepipe


    You can be sure that it is geared towards Ryanair's advantage, big time. Why would they take the risk, on an unproven cadet, without adding in protections for themselves? I'll bet the contract would make interesting reading.


  • #10
    CoisFharraige
    Registered Users Posts: 237 ✭✭CoisFharraige


    Crock Rock wrote: »
    Anyone going for this?

    This doesn't seem to have even a fraction of the coverage EI would have if they offered one.

    Yes because the EI one doesn’t cost 77K ! This isn’t a bloody cadetship for Christ’s sake, it’s just the AFTA Ryanair Mentored programme equivalent but for somewhere else!


  • #11
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,461 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    But this gives direct entry to Ryanair if successful? Is there an additional cost for type rating?
    77k doesn't seem so bad if there is a job there on completion - or will they cherry pick and tell others to get lost.


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  • #12
    IngazZagni
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭IngazZagni


    mickdw wrote: »
    But this gives direct entry to Ryanair if successful? Is there an additional cost for type rating?
    77k doesn't seem so bad if there is a job there on completion - or will they cherry pick and tell others to get lost.

    You can be damn sure there will be! I haven’t seen the contract but knowing what this company are like there will absolutely be an additional type rating bond for around €30,000!

    There will also be an option for Ryanair to tell you to F off at any time they like. I guarantee it.

    Please folks. Read the fine print and go into this with your eyes wide open.


  • #13
    1123heavy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,020 ✭✭✭1123heavy


    I go away for a few weeks and come back to find "Ryanair to offer cadetships like EI." as a thread?

    LOL.

    That made me laugh, hard.

    Ryanair are saying if you go to school x and do their own in house ATPL course, we will give you a chance at a job with us once you finish there. That is a different planet to the Aer Lingus cadetship.

    It has absolute minimum involvement from ryanair and there are no guarantees, it's simply an extension of what they have already running with AFTA, it's just another school added to the list.


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